Rand Paul: America funding foreign ‘war against Christianity’

Charles Dharapak, Associated Press QUOTE OF THE DAY | -Rand Paul speaking this week at the Faith and Freedom Coalition’s … Continued


Charles Dharapak, Associated Press

QUOTE OF THE DAY |

-Rand Paul speaking this week at the Faith and Freedom Coalition’s Road to the Majority conference.

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  • tmx

    Paul is a bit of a kook.

  • mar1964

    Rand Paul : “While they burn the American flag and the mobs chant ‘Death to America,’ more of your money is sent to these haters of Christianity.”

    —– Since when did the American flag represent Christianity?

  • mikegolf

    Faith and Freedom = Ralph Reed’s newest attempt at hypocrisy and huckterism. . . and because he bases his institute in D.C., he will again con many in government and not be indicted. Rand Paul, a libertarian, should be ashamed of himself for being used by this “christian?” organization.

  • Cap40

    Since maybe when we adopted “In GOD we trust”

  • ccnl1

    From the studies of Armstrong, Rushdie, Hirsi Ali, Richardson and Bayhaqi––

    The Five Steps To Deprogram 1400 Years of Islamic Myths:

    ( –The Steps take less than two minutes to finish- simply amazing, two minutes to bring peace and rationality to over one billion lost souls- Priceless!!!)

    Are you ready?

    Using “The 77 Branches of Islamic “faith” a collection compiled by Imam Bayhaqi as a starting point. In it, he explains the essential virtues that reflect true “faith” (iman) through related Qur’anic verses and Prophetic sayings.” i.e. a nice summary of the Koran and Islamic beliefs.

    The First Five of the 77 Branches:

    “1. Belief in Allah”

    aka as God, Yahweh, Zeus, Jehovah, Mother Nature, etc. should be added to your self-cleansing neurons.

    “2. To believe that everything other than Allah was non-existent. Thereafter, Allah Most High created these things and subsequently they came into existence.”

    Evolution and the Big Bang or the “Gi-b G-nab” (when the universe starts to recycle) are more plausible and the “akas” for Allah should be included if you continue to be a “crea-tionist”.

    “3. To believe in the existence of angels.”

    A major item for neuron cleansing. Angels/de-vils are the mythical creations of ancient civilizations, e.g. Hitt-ites, to explain/define natural events, contacts with their gods, big birds, sudden winds, protectors during the dark nights, etc. No “pretty/ug-ly wingy thingies” ever visited or talked to Mohammed, Jesus, Mary or Joseph or Joe Smith. Today we would classify angels as f–airies and “tin–ker be-lls”. Modern de-vils are classified as the de-mons of the de-mented.

    “4. To believe that all the heavenly books that were sent to the different prophets are true. However, apart from the Quran, all other books are not valid anymore.”

    Another major item to delete. There are no books written in the spirit state of Heaven (if there is one) just as there are no angels to write/publish/distribute them. The Koran, OT, NT etc. are simply books written by

  • bucknackt1

    THERE is truth to Sen rand paul’s R KY statements on the war against Christianity. Christians do suffer restrictions, oppression, discrimination and violence against them in the Middle East (including Israel), on the Arabian Peninsula, the Indian subcontinent and Southeast Asia. Sen Paul’s statement that this war on Christians is being funded by the American taxpayer is also correct. As long as we remain a warstate, the military-industrial complex, along with corporate America (somewhat one and the same) will dictate our foreign policy that doesn’t take into consideration the human rights of the citizens of our “allies” but is focused on protecting and increasing the profit margins of said conspirators. Americans tolerate this because of self imposed ignorance and greed, we don’t want anything or anyone to threaten our lifestyle, one that depends on access to the natural resources in the very nations that restrict, oppress, discriminate against and commit violence against Christians daily.
    Sen paul’s comments concerning the war on Christianity and arming our “allies” are also true to an extent. He is correct is stating we should not be spending American tax dollars providing military aid to these nations while they continue to violate the religious and all human rights of their Christian citizens. Not including Israel in this group of nations, when they should be, shows that his concern about the fate of Christians in other nations is disingenuous, and he is playing the Christian Zionist card, kow-towing to the Israeli lobby in the U.S., for his own political gain.

  • Ontheotherhand

    That open mic event in Egypt was an eye opener. It wasn’t just leaders speaking of America being the enemy but everyone around the meeting table was nodding their heads, and yet we’re giving Egypt 20 F-16s together with tens of billions in aid. Why? So that we can better arm anti-Christian, and anti-Israel theocracies.

  • Up by the Big Lake

    It seems our trust has been misplaced.

  • Up by the Big Lake

    Yes, he’s right. Muslims are murderously intolerant in many parts of the world. No, I want no part of any ‘Holy War’ between the two. Our governments in Western nations have radical religious nuts under control and we’d like to keep it that way so they don’t drag us into the mud with their jihads and crusades.

  • old sarge

    I see by many of the comments posted that Senator Paul is still viewed as a nut job. I doubt that those who feel this way are reading anything more that bits and pieces of what he has to say, and jump into the fray with preconceived ideas and thoughts. That is what makes this country great.

    I check his web site, and that of other politicians to get a better idea of a particular message. Oftentimes you can read the entire speech and compare it to others. His statement about the attacks on Christians is true and that does not make him a nut job. He could have left that out tidbit of info out and simply stated that attacks against “unbelievers” and “infidels” continues throughout the world and left the listener and reader to draw their own conclusion. The message would have been the same, it would have been just as true, just not offensive to those who dislike Christianity.

  • Dixie Suzan Davis

    US Constitution, Article III, Section 3 – Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.—-
    Enemeies in the above clause means enemies in war. Is the USA at war with al-Queda??? If the US is at war with al-Queda then supplying arms to al-Queda elements in Syria constitutes an act of treason under US Constitution, Article III, Section 3. Those weapons will also be used to kill Christians in Syria.
    Or is the treason clause, US Constitution, Article III, Section 3, a discretionary clause only suspendable by Federal Executive discretionary and not enforced when it is expedient to do so using executive Constitutional end-runs for the good of America. Can we import al-Queda members to the US to save them from being killed in Syria??? This would create more social diversity.

  • Rongoklunk

    If you wanna get ahead get a god. And if you get a god, you might as well exploit it. It’s the modern equivalent of snake oil. Everybody wants some. and what they want most of all is to hear the words “You’ll never die if you believe in the great invisible skygod – but live forever up in Heaven.” The very oldest scam of them all, because it works. That’s why the Pope lives in a Palace. And now there’s two of them. Maybe this time next year there’ll be three of them, maybe four, maybe more. They’re all rich. Build another palace and get even richer. There are dozens born every minute.

  • SimonTemplar

    The new “gods” of the west are our trinkets of technology. If you want to get ahead, get the latest. That’s how Bill Gates built his palace.

  • AgentFoxMulder

    Conveniently, Obama has, in a very timely fashion, declared an end to the war on terror.

  • AgentFoxMulder

    You may not like his world view, but there is no denying that our standard policy of fighting with our enemies one day, then arming them the next, looks downright absurd.

  • AgentFoxMulder

    Any religion or philosophy or idea (even secular ones) can be used by politicians. They find something that a group of people hold dear, or hold as a guiding ideal, then they co-opt it as something THEY hold dear as THEIR guiding ideal, thus positioning themselves as members of the same club, soldiers in the same battle, idealists of like mind. Then they promise to reward loyalty (expressed through votes and contributions to campaign funds) with advancement of those guiding principles.

    The ideals which provoke us emotionally are particularly useful because once our emotions are engaged we have usually already chosen sides without investing a great deal of thought. Religion is one which reaches our emotions pretty quickly and it happens to work on both the religious and the non-religious. Some social issues also cause us to react in knee-jerk fashion. You can see this every day on this very blog site. Faithful and secular people attacking each other in highly emotional diatribes directed toward the stereotypes, the caricatures we hold in our heads which have, in many instances, been put in our heads by others.

    Take Christianity and Islam out of the equation and we still see a scenario which staggers the rational mind. One day our leaders tell us we must fight the enemies of this country, the next they tell us we must arm them. They will provide some artful and some not so artful arguments for all of this but end the end they will depend on their use of brand loyalty (Christianity or Islam, liberal or conservative, religious or secular, abortion or pro life, sexual identity, gender, children, etc.) to get us to bypass our thinking and default to our emotions so we just choose sides.

  • Sandydayl

    Rand Paul just didn’t say that “countries like Egypt and Syria” are conducting a war against Chritianity, he also threw in this little bon mot:
    “There is a war on Christianity, not just from liberal elites here at home, but worldwide. …”
    WTH? That was uncalled for and untrue. Randy is the one who is divisive and inflammatory and all for political gain. That was some nasty gathering at the Faith & Freedom Coalition. Just like they do at CPAC — throwing red meat and hateful comments to the audience seems to be the only reason for being there in the first place. Rand Paul is a US senator and with that job comes responsibility. Saying that liberals are conducting a war on Christianity and insinuating that they want to kill Christians is irresponsible and dangerous. You never know who is going to be riled up by intentional lies like that all because a member of Congress says it is true.

  • ward7

    I agree that there is a war on Christianity and I also agree that this country has nothing to gain by supporting anyone in the Middle East. If we want to become the modern Roman Empire, we should do as the Romans did and tax those under our domain.

  • Sunderland

    Dixie – It’s a list. It’s not a ranking. Being listed first doesn’t hold any special meaning.
    Surely you are smart enough to know that.

  • AgentFoxMulder

    I believe you are mistaken. Look at the actual numbers of Christians being persecuted (jailed or worse for being Christians). More Christians have died for being Christians during the last 100 years than during the first 1900 years of the faith.

  • XVIIHailSkins

    If I recall correctly, the Roman Empire fell to pieces shortly after adopting Christianity as the state religion. There is no war on Christianity because Christianity is an idea, and a childish one at that. There is no such thing as war where ideas are concerned. The real cultural fault line exists between rational people who don’t need supernatural consolation to run their lives, and the parties of God which includes Islam and Christianity. They are different sides of the same coin.

  • Centaur927

    Rand’s motivations are all about himself and his 2016 run.

  • christiansmiller

    Why? Because he does not want us to get into another war?

  • DRJJJ

    Ya, we believe that man is just a selfish idol worshiping machine that evolved by luck/chance into pond scum, monkey and then man with no designer , hope or evidence! Call it the macro evoution faith movement or prgogressive! Thanks, the intellectually honest ones! Loving God and others (pro life vs pro death)-what a horrible world view huh?

  • DRJJJ

    Doesn’t appear she is!

  • DRJJJ

    Secularization of church and state sure hasn’t done us any favors-turn on the news!

  • XVIIHailSkins

    DRJJJ I think you could do yourself a great favor by reading these posts out loud to yourself to see if they make sense verbally before clicking submit.

  • dcrswm

    Mind providing these numbers you claim exist?

  • dcrswm

    You’re one of those people that believe America is a christian nation aren’t you……

  • dcrswm

    Ahhhh yeah, the good old 50s…no fear mongering back then……

  • dcrswm

    Also, burning the flag and shouting ‘death t America’…both speech, which I believe we say you have a right to…..

  • Dixie Suzan Davis

    Sunderland – Why thank ya’ll darlin for that informative reply.
    Its just a list and not a ranking? Does that mean I am not a member of the 1 extremist threat to America, an Evangelical Christian and that I must simply consider myself as a co-equal terrorist threat to America with all al-Queda and the Muslim Brotherhood? Gosh, that’s comforting. I was worried before, but now I realize I am just another ordinary everyday terrorist and not Numero Uno to the Department of Homeland Security and their new 2,412 Panzer tanks and 2 billion rounds of hollow point ammo..

  • Dixie Suzan Davis

    DRJJJ – Thank ya’ll for that reply. I am comforted now.

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