A prayer for abortion?

Pro-life advocates have long complained that Planned Parenthood, the country’s largest abortion provider, worships at the altar of abortion, but … Continued

Pro-life advocates have long complained that Planned Parenthood, the country’s largest abortion provider, worships at the altar of abortion, but did you know that the abortion industry actually prays for abortion?

Perversely reminiscent of 40 day pro-life prayer vigils, Planned Parenthood in Humboldt County, Ca., is promoting it’s own “40 days of prayer,” March 18th through April 27th, for abortion. This is not their usually disguised promotion of abortion as “preventative care,” “family planning,” or “contraceptive services.” No, they throw those typical euphemisms out and directly pray for abortion.


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A prayer guide found on PlannedParenthood.org
,40 Days of Prayer Supporting Women Everywhere
, encourages pro-abortion supporters to offer prayers of “thanks for abortion providers” and the “sacred care” they provide.

Each day, Planned Parenthood suggests a prayer, for example:

· “We give thanks for the doctors who provide quality abortion care.”

· We pray for a cloud of gentleness to surround every abortion facility.”

· We pray for all the staff at abortion clinics around the nation. May they be daily confirmed in the sacred care that they offer women.”

Some of the prayers, like those above, are for the abortionists. Others are for all “women to access . . . abortion,” and one is to “give thanks and celebrate that abortion is still safe and legal.”

Still other prayers are against pro-life advocates. They pray that women on the way to have an abortion would be “shielded” from the lifesaving message of pro-life sidewalk counselors and “give thanks for abortion escorts who guide women safely through the hostile gauntlets of protesters.” In another, “we pray for women who have been made afraid of their own power [of choice, i.e. abortion] by their religion. May they learn to reject fear and live bravely.”

One of the most outrageous of these pro-abortion prayers actually urges people to “pray for the families we’ve chosen. May they know the blessing of choice.” What about the babies who weren’t “chosen”?

Of course, none of this should be surprising when you take a look at the group who penned these prayers, Faith Aloud. Among Faith Aloud’s board members is the infamous partial-birth abortion doctor LeRoy Carhart.

While admitting that aborted babies are “our children—even those we decide not to bring into the world,” Faith Aloud cannot debunk the claim that abortion is murder. Faith Aloud’s Web site states, “When you hear something over and over, like ‘abortion is murder’, it can get into your head—like a commercial. But if you really believed that abortion was the same as murder you probably wouldn’t even be considering it.”

All Planned Parenthood and Faith Aloud can do is rationalize the taking of another human’s life under the guise of prayer.

But apparently, these prayers are being used by the entire abortion industry. Faith Aloud even wrote us after we at the ACLJ initially exposed Planned Parenthood’s prayer guide to clarify, “Independent abortion providers (non-Planned Parenthood facilities) have been using these prayers for years.”

While the prayers themselves are shocking, the true outrage continues to be the yearly slaughter of millions of unborn babies. No matter how you try to spiritualize it or rationalize, it’s just plain wrong, and we will continue fighting for life.

Jordan Sekulow is Executive Director of the American Center for Law & Justice and writes for On Faith’s blogging network at the Washington Post. Matthew Clark is an attorney for the ACLJ.

Note: This post has been updated.

  • AgapeWord

    The prayer I will pray is for the babies to live! Each one is precious to God. Jordan and Jay, on behalf of the babies, I say “thank you”.

  • bluejaycalling3

    This nation is is engaged in a pivotal spirital battle on many fronts, but which is best exemplified by the enthusiastic murdering of innocent, helpless children in the womb. The supporters of this behavior are using every lie and rationalization to continue this grisley business. When one wantonly destroys life, and blasphemously prays for success in that endeavor, the forces of hell are behind that activity. Research the methods used to destroy childeren and you will see the truth of the matter; it is the subject of nightmares, not the acceptable practices by a loving God. In the wake of this tragic scenario lie the broken hearts of mothers and fathers consumed with regret and guilt. Now we have a President in office who enthusiastically supports killing by abortion, and in exporting that philosophy and behavior
    world-wide, along with other policies that are close to being as vile. The out come of the American elections of 2012 will surely seal our fate if we stand by and allow this promotion of death to continue. 55 million children have been slaughtered since Roe vs. Wade (1973 ). Haven’t we seen and been sickened by all the bloodshed? Or has it become so common that it is likelike yawning? Wake up America! A just God will allow you to consume yourself in your filth! stephen orozco

  • ccnl1

    Hopefully, the following is included in PP’s prayers:

    The reality of contraception and STD control: – from a guy who enjoys intelligent se-x-

    Note: Some words hyphenated to defeat an obvious word filter. …

    The Brutal Effects of Stupidity:

    : The failures of the widely used birth “control” methods i.e. the Pill ( 8.7% failure rate) and male con-dom (17.4% failure rate) have led to the large rate of abortions and S-TDs in the USA. Men and women must either recognize their responsibilities by using the Pill or co-ndoms properly and/or use safer methods in order to reduce the epidemics of abortion and S-TDs.- Failure rate statistics provided by the Gut-tmacher Inst-itute. Unfortunately they do not give the statistics for doubling up i.e. using a combination of the Pill and a condom.

    Added information before making your next move:

    from the CDC-2006

    “Se-xually transmitted diseases (STDs) remain a major public health challenge in the United States. While substantial progress has been made in preventing, diagnosing, and treating certain S-TDs in recent years, CDC estimates that approximately 19 million new infections occur each year, almost half of them among young people ages 15 to 24.1 In addition to the physical and psy-ch-ological consequences of S-TDs, these diseases also exact a tremendous economic toll. Direct medical costs as-sociated with STDs in the United States are estimated at up to $14.7 billion annually in 2006 dollars.”

    And from:

    Consumer Reports, January, 2012

    “Yes, or-al se-x is se-x, and it can boost cancer risk-

    Here’s a crucial message for teens (and all se-xually active “post-teeners”: Or-al se-x carries many of the same risks as va-ginal se-x, including human papilloma virus, or HPV. And HPV may now be overtaking tobacco as the leading cause of or-al cancers in America in people under age 50.

    “Adolescents don’t think or-al se-x is something to worry about,” said Bonnie Halpern-Felsher professor of pediatrics at the University of California, San Francisc

  • shanti2

    If those embryos and fetuses are as precious to God as you pretend they are, God would protect them, just as God protects all the people who are victims of wars, famines, starvation, genocide, lack of health care, spousal abuse, murder. If God is really as caring and all powerful as you pretend, these abominations would disappear from the earth. The God that does abhor these things is not worshipped anywhere.

  • phubert28

    We meed also to pray that the darkness in hearts will be dispelled with the light of God’s love.

    The only love that can truly heal in every way comes from Him alone.

  • cpohlh

    What a farce! You do have to wonder just what god they are praying to, because it can’t possibly be The Lord of Life, Jesus!

  • wyner2010

    The idea that prayer for abortion is acceptable for abortion supporters shows how sinful this world is. The christian community needs to pray and support every unborn child that God has brought into this world. The christian community also needs to pray for the abortion community. The abortion community needs to understand what they stand for goes against love. God is love and every baby born into this world glorifies him. If the abortion community will not listen to what people have to say, maybe they will listen to what God has to say.

  • AgapeWord

    shanti2, Yes, there is a lot of destruction in this world but that’s not what God intended for us. Because of the entrance of sin into this world there is a lot of suffering….but God has made promises in His Word. Satan comes to kill, steal and destroy so this is what I know, God has power over Satan and his demons.
    Isaiah 26:3 states, “You will guard him and keep him in perfect and constant peace whose mind is stayed on You, because he commits himself to you, leans on You, and hopes confindently in You.”
    God’s Word is true and He does want good for everyone but when man ignores God and His ways there is a price to pay. For many years I did that…ignored Him and I paid a price… as did my family. He’s our Heavenly Father and teaches us, like any good father, to obey and stay close to Him so the devil cannot destroy our lives.
    James 4:7 tells us, “So be subject to God. Resist the devil (stand firm against him), and he will flee from you.”
    Whether people acknowledge God is real or not doesn’t change the fact that He’s constantly working in everyone’s lives. He wants them to turn to Him. Jesus Christ has made the way for us to come to God and be assured our home will be in Heaven when we die.
    Romans 10:9 tells us how we can be saved from the power of sin and death…”If you acknowledge and confess with your lips that Jesus is Lord and in your heart believe that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.”
    He’s a loving God.

  • AgapeWord

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    This website has available the most awesome book about Heaven!

  • rays2life

    The Bible makes it clear that God answers our prayers that align with His will – for example, Jesus taught us to pray, “…thy will be done….” In my view, to pray for more abortions is to ask Him to violate his own will. I’m always in favor of prayer; however we must learn to discern the Father’s heart if our prayers are to be effective.

  • cricket44

    There is no “enthusiastic murdering of innocent, helpless children.” With every lie, obfuscation and twisting of fact, anti-choicers prove themselves to be nothing but cowards with contempt for women.

    There is NO compassion in the anti-choice cult.

  • cricket44

    What “abortion community?” It’s so sad that anti-choicers refuse to look at facts, as a rule. I pray for those who would twist the love of Christ in such a way as to deem that women are not people, that they forfeit their personhood upon the instance of a fertilized egg and then are nothing more than objects to breed.

    It is obvious there is no listenting to real life stories of women who have had to make this very difficult choice. No understanding of the very real risks of mulitiple types inherent in every pregnancy and delivery.

    Like sex, pregnancy is a beautiful gift when chosen, an abhorrent violation when forced.

    I pray that the anti-choice fanatics have their eyes opened to the damage they cause and to the truth that their stance holds no compassion, just assumption, projection and rhetoric.

  • cricket44

    In your view. But your view is not the only one and not the only one felt to be correct.

  • ccnl1

    IF THE PILL AND MALE CONDOMS WERE USED PROPERLY, ABORTION WOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE AND OBAMA WOULD NOT BE PRESIDENT.

  • cricket44

    Not eveyrone can use hormonal birth control. condoms, used properly, can still fail. I agree that two forms of birth control are best…I’ve also known women who became pregnant even with multiple forms of birth control. Abortion will always be a need and using all caps and tossing poltics into the mix is simply inane.

  • phubert28

    But, again, without SOME truly objective truth, there is in fact no truth at all.

    Truth that comes solely from our own thoughts and beliefs varies from person to person and is in the end entirely subjective.

    To have actual, unalterable truth, foundational truth, it must come from an external source.

    WE may not be right from time to time, but God is always right – or He does not exist at all and existence has NO meaning whatsoever.

  • phubert28

    “Anti-choicers”? Not pro-lifers? We DO couch things in terms least and most flattering, don’t we?

    The abortion industry is hardly “pro-choice”. For example, abortion facilities (many are NOT certified as clinics), are totally opposed to telling women there are facilities and organizations that will help them should they CHOOSE to keep their baby.

    They are also absolutely opposed to showing the mothers the ultrasound of their child.

    THIS isn’t “choice”, it’s programming – programming for death not life.

  • phubert28

    Clearly you don’t know many ‘in the field’ in the pro-life movement.

    They favor REAL choice and OFFER the choice of keeping your child ALIVE, not dismembering it.

    When you work with those in the field you experience LOVE – not hatred, while the pro-abortion workers yell and curse at you and try to run you down with their cars.

    In the Bible God tells Israel through Moses they have a choice of life or death. Life is following Him – but nothing outside of God can GIVE life. Hence their only other choice is to choose self-destruction.

    Jesus said “I AM the way, and the truth, and the life.” Real life does not exist apart from Him. Everything apart from Him is spiritual death, so we can walk around believing we are living when, inside, we are dead.

  • Carolyn53

    “We know that God does not listen to sinners. He listens to the godly man who does his will.” John 9:31

  • Carolyn53

    Let’s remember to pray for our brothers and sisters who have been led astray. We have the love and power of Christ who lives within us to do this! Let us remember that they are lost souls, just as we were at one time. Remember that we are not to judge…only to love them and pray that they see the truth. Leave it to God to judge the truly wicked who would lead them astray.

  • phubert28

    Excellent reference, Carolyn.

    The Word of God, properly applied, brings crystal clarity.

  • Carolyn53

    My daughter and her husband chose abstinence until they married one another. They put their faith in God to find them the right mate, and they waited. We now have a beautiful 4-month old grandchild. Praise God! More churches should promote “worth the wait”. More parents should talk about the godly benefit of waiting.

  • cricket44

    A belief is a belief, not an objective truth. Everything you proclaim stems from your belief and how *you* interpret that. I can respect that and absolutely feel that every individual needs to abide by their own beliefs. What *cannot* happen, is forcing others to do so and invariably, to their detriment. Existence has meaning but the right of self-determination is inviolable, at least physically.

    This piece was not an article, it was a hugely slanted and fact free opinion piece, and a nasty one at that.

    Scott, your personal attack is meaningless, as always. Your hatred of women has been noted by many others beside myself.

    Carolyn, I agree. When the illusion of “righteousness” falls from the eyes of anti-choice folks, they will be able to see their folly and the damage it wreaks.

  • Carolyn53

    Shanti12 I have read many of the comments from those who have responded to you. I can tell they have love in their hearts for you and the unborn children. I pray that you will pick up God’s Word, the Holy Bible, and read and pray. You will find come to understand its meaning when you have an open heart. Christians want everyone to feel God’s love, but at the same time, they cannot abide those who willingly go against God’s commandments. I want you to remember that we are on this earth for a very short time. When we arrive in heaven with God, all the sorrows, even the struggles of taking care of an unplanned child, will be worth it because it was in obedience to God.

  • cricket44

    Not pro-lifers, no. And I would reply that you flatter yourselves and ignore the very real damage to women you bring by using the term “pro life.”

    ” For example, abortion facilities (many are NOT certified as clinics), are totally opposed to telling women there are facilities and organizations that will help them should they CHOOSE to keep their baby. ”

    Proof? NOT from anti-choice sites, they lie habitually.

    A woman going in for an abortion has the right to see an ultrasound *if she so chooses* but does not need to be forced as a tool of coercion and an attempt at emotional blackmail.

    Programming…like lying about health risks with pregnancy, like telling someone that you know how she will feel better than she does, like not respecting her enough to know her own condition in life and whether or not it is right to continue the pregnancy? Do you hear the rampant hypocrisy in your stance? Or is it too scary to take an adult look at it?

  • cricket44

    On the contrary, it is years of interacting with them that has informed my view.

    Give birth or give birth is NOT a choice.

    Let me fix this phrase for you:

    “When you work with those in Planned Parenthood you experience True respect and compassion- not hatred, while the anti-choice protesters yell and curse at you and call you names and shoot doctors and blow up clinics and terrorize families and children.”

    There. Now it is truthful.

  • cricket44

    They made a choice and were allowed to do so. The right we all have.

  • phubert28

    I don’t think you understand the damage abortion is doing to women and to all of our culture.

    Abortion, itself, isn’t the cause, it’s a symptom of estrangement from God. From a complete loss of real love – which only originates WITH Him.

    Until someone comes to know Him, to give their heart TO Him, they will never be free to know the simplicity of unconditional love in God’s purity and holiness.

    But, if you cannot call those who are pro-life AS pro-life, then I must call you pro-death.

  • phubert28

    However, as I have said elsewhere in this thread, again we see that the gulf between us is great, indeed.

  • phubert28

    Yes, we each can choose destructive paths as well. But that doesn’t make them right.

    Mass murders make choices, but we universally condemn them. So, just how is their choice SO different from the killing of one and a half million unborn babies each year in this nation?

  • phubert28

    But abortion facilities also provide only one “choice” – your argument isn’t valid.

  • cricket44

    Phubert, have you *ever* sat and listened to women who have aborted and known it was the right choice for their situation? Listened and/or read without the filter of anti-choice rhetoric?

    You do not undertand and I get that you think you are doing right but you are damaging people. You are hurting them. That is not pro-life. And since I value every choice, I am pro-choice, not pro-death. I respect people. You don’t.

  • cricket44

    At the time of most abortions to claim “baby” is false in the extreme. Mass murder is very different from self-protection. You may not agree, from the outseide, but that is the default starting point of the choice to abort.

  • phubert28

    A REAL compromise, which neither side is accepting, would be to PROVIDE -full- knowledge of ALL choices at ANY facility that offers abortions – or any that offers alternatives TO abortion.

    REAL “choice”, cricket, would be to tell the woman she can see an ultrasound of her “fetus” (baby!) if she wishes AND to tell her there is an alternative center available that offers help with and through a pregnancy – even supplying diapers for a year and other assistance.

    No, you have never really advocated REAL choice, cricket.

  • cricket44

    The choice has already been made and women are questioned *repeatedly* as to their certainty before the procedure is done. Inform yourself, please. Sited and groups that tell you want you already believe are NOT the same as being told the facts.

    “A REAL compromise, which neither side is accepting, would be to PROVIDE -full- knowledge of ALL choices at ANY facility that offers abortions – or any that offers alternatives TO abortion.”

    Guess what…I agree. But providing full knowledge is not *forced* procedures and ultrasound viewing.

    It’s a fetus. We are babies at birth, come on now, use fact in your arguments.

    You have no idea what I have advocated and make my point about assumptions.

  • SteveinOhio1

    Another fine example of how the right of a woman to choose her own procreational destiny must be defended at every turn.

    Other than that, this is just another screed in favor of forced motherhood, and is dismissed as such.

  • phubert28

    Agreed, but it may take more than simple declarations to LEAD them that way.

    In the end, we know it is ONLY the work of God’s Holy Spirit that will reach hearts.

    We need to seek to allow Him to soften our own hearts, as well, so we will not too easily cause offense rather than demonstrate His love.

  • phubert28

    I know God has been VERY patient in continuing to reach MY heart, Scott. It’s a process that will never, in this life, be complete.

  • phubert28

    Our society has almost completely discarded the concepts of personal responsibility and accountability – particularly accountability to a Higher Power.

    Many, very many, sadly, will be very surprised.

  • phubert28

    But, cricket, let me grant your point but return to the question of REAL “choice” … is uninformed “choice” ever REAL choice?

    If a woman does not know help is available or if she is not given the OPTION (not the requirement) of seeing her ultrasound, do you REALLY consider that informed choice.

    And, can you really justify the NUMBER of abortions? One and a half MILLION annually?

    Do you REALLY believe that is reasonable?

    If it is, then our society is very very sick, indeed.

  • cricket44

    I sincerly pray, yes, pray, Scott, that you have no daughters. Your utter and complete lack of understanding around the issues of consent are horrific and I can only hope no one is vicitimzed by your transmission of ignorance and misinformation.

    No. consent to sex is NOT consent to pregnancy any more than driving in a car is consent to get in an accident. Is the risk there? Yes. but it is not consent to then lay by the side of the road and suffer because, hey, you got in the car.

    Personal responsibility is not always going to look liek YOU want it to , Phubert.

    “Many, very many, sadly, will be very surprised.” I agree, but I think it won’t be who you think.

  • cricket44

    Sadly, real help is not always avaliable in every situtaion. Tha’s the issue. Only the woman know all hte circumstances. I doubt I would approve of every reason that someon aborts but it is still *her* body and wellbeing so my *opinion* doesn’t count.

    There are many people, who consider themselves to be the very upstanding pillars of community, that I don’t think should ever be *near* childeren, let alone have any of their own. Again, not my call.

    Where are you getting your information about the number?

  • phubert28

    I have a close friend with three daughters, all married Godly men and all the children and grandchildren of those parings are devoted Christians who remained celibate until marriage.

    I hope Scott has many daughters he can raise “In the NURTURE and admonition of the Lord”

    The surprise I referred to, cricket, is at the Judgment seat of God – the one to which all who have not known Him will be held accountable.

    Where, as Jesus put it, “there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth”

    HIS words, not mine, cricket. (by the way, I’ve not failed to capitalize your moniker out of disrespect – only matching your own usage)

  • cricket44

    I don’t know how much of Scott’s postings you read, but he has nothing but contempt for women. Anyone telling women they have “implied consent” is a dangerous person to be imparting advice. Ideally, these things are talked about honestly before sex but in any case, the woman has the choice of wht happens to her body.

    I know what you were referring to and people who damage other people, even with good intentions, will also face an accounting. If I have not capitalized your name it is a typo.

  • cricket44

    Scott, none of this is about me. It is anti-choice arrogance that interferesi nthe medical decisions of women. choice leaves it between the woman and her faith, if she believes.. You think you speak for God. You don’t.

  • cricket44

    So, scott, no logic and reason. Simply your opinion…which has no meaning to anyone else’s situation.

    I’m sorry you feel women are nothing to be considered. But it’s a problem you need to solve without inflicting it on others.

  • cricket44

    Don’t worry, Scott. I have to go now. Blather falsehood as you will. I challenge people to go look up *actual* information on the topic, not from agenda and/or religious sites. You can at least then be arguing from an informed perspective, not Scott’s perspective.

  • ccnl1

    The reality of contraception and STD control: – from a guy who enjoys intelligent se-x-

    Note: Some words hyphenated to defeat an obvious word filter. …

    The Brutal Effects of Stupidity:

    : The failures of the widely used birth “control” methods i.e. the Pill ( 8.7% failure rate) and male con-dom (17.4% failure rate) have led to the large rate of abortions and S-TDs in the USA. Men and women must either recognize their responsibilities by using the Pill or co-ndoms properly and/or use safer methods in order to reduce the epidemics of abortion and S-TDs.- Failure rate statistics provided by the Gut-tmacher Inst-itute. Unfortunately they do not give the statistics for doubling up i.e. using a combination of the Pill and a condom.

    Added information before making your next move:

    from the CDC-2006

    “Se-xually transmitted diseases (STDs) remain a major public health challenge in the United States. While substantial progress has been made in preventing, diagnosing, and treating certain S-TDs in recent years, CDC estimates that approximately 19 million new infections occur each year, almost half of them among young people ages 15 to 24.1 In addition to the physical and psy-ch-ological consequences of S-TDs, these diseases also exact a tremendous economic toll. Direct medical costs as-sociated with STDs in the United States are estimated at up to $14.7 billion annually in 2006 dollars.”

    And from:

    Consumer Reports, January, 2012

    “Yes, or-al se-x is se-x, and it can boost cancer risk-

    Here’s a crucial message for teens (and all se-xually active “post-teeners”: Or-al se-x carries many of the same risks as va-ginal se-x, including human papilloma virus, or HPV. And HPV may now be overtaking tobacco as the leading cause of or-al cancers in America in people under age 50.

    “Adolescents don’t think or-al se-x is something to worry about,” said Bonnie Halpern-Felsher professor of pediatrics at the University of California, San Francisco. “They view it as a way to have intimacy without ha

  • puzzler25

    If you CHOOSE to have s-e-x, then you take with that the knowledge that birth control methods can fail, and there is a chance that you become pregnant. I have known several people who have children because the pill or other birth control (including the shot, which doesn’t have user error like the pill and other forms) failed.

    The heart starts beating just two to three weeks after conception. MOST women don’t even know that they are pregnant at this time. Abortion stops a beating heart.

    For the record, I was the result of a rape and I’ve been the victim of rape. I did not get pregnant and I STILL relive the rape from time to time….. The rape occurred in 1995. Having a baby that results from rape does not change that one way or the other.

  • ccnl1

    Bottom line: BO is still not aware of the basics of birth and STD control and still remains the leader of the Immoral Majority and will remain so until he becomes a true Christian and one who respects and protects human life in all its forms and who at least emphasizes the proper use of birth and STD control methods!!!

  • charlesfacemire

    This is sick.

  • Catken1

    Maybe we should add a prayer that someday Sekulow and Clark and others will see their wives, daughters, mothers and sisters as full human beings, at least equal in stature to an undifferentiated blastula with neither nerve endings nor brain cells.

    The “true outrage” is your assumption that every single woman in this country is only human until she conceives a child, and after that is property, to be used without regard for her feelings or wishes or what happens to her as a result.

    Tell me, how do you “rationalize the taking of another human’s life” that happens when you retain the right to choose who may and may not use your body, instead of handing your organs and blood supply over to government to be doled out at need to others more valuable than yourself? And if you get on your high horse and whine about your body being rightfully your own, you must therefore acknowledge the same for women. Yes, even if they’re “bad women” in your eyes – i.e. women who want to be neither lifelong celibates nor incubating machines with no right or say over their own most intimate body parts.

  • jeffkrotts

    Add your thoughts…Greetings all,

    For far to long we, “The Silent Majority”, have allowed discussions, such as this one, to be define by word crafters who do not wish to have a meaningful debate, they frame the most important issues of out time in ways that direct and control what can be said and try to exclude those of us, no matter how thought provoking, whose words can reach. What am I talking about, “Birth Control” to start with. It isn’t about the control of birth but the control of conception. So instead of “BC” I will be discussing “Conception Control” (CC). That is to say each and every person must take responsibility for controlling these things before it comes to a murder of an unborn child, Abortion is murder. Just because the person whom one wishes to kill is growing inside ones own self doesn’t mean that smaller person should have no rights. I hear the argument about a women’s right to control her own body and that is exactly what I am speaking of, except the control is taken before the event that results in another human life. I also understand that there are exceptions and so should there be. In the case of incest, rape or any other form of forcible intercourse excluding stupidity, carelessness or after action regret. Also when a pregnancy will, not might, threaten the mother life, taking into consideration what modern medical science has been able to accomplish in the areas of incubation of pre-mature births. As of the last reports doctors have been able to bring a less than six (6) month old pre-birth (I don’t like to call an unborn “fetus” or “blastula” because it tends to dehumanize that as yet unborn life.) through. I also am less considerate of mental/psychological stress being a factor in the determination of what constitutes a threat to the mother’s life.

    Human life has become far to cheep in our modern society, to kill a “helpless” is viewed as a right or privilege rather than a crime.

    How is it possible that a person who thinks a murderer sho

  • cricket44

    How you feel is how YOU feel. Not how every rape victim feels.

  • jeffkrotts

    A prayer of abortion? A prayer of abortion?? A prayer of abortion???

    Where is the prayer for the as yet unborn mother, daughter, sister or wife? Oh that’s right the only thing that counts, in our modern society is self. That is self-ishness, self-centeredness self-indulgence self-serving any type of self except self-lessness my bad.

    I don’t think we are approaching this from the right perspective. The discussion needs to be turned to conception, the before not the after.

    After your head stops pounding from being so upset think, just think about it differently for a few seconds that’s all I ask.

    Have a great day!

  • dcrswm

    It’s all good, I talked to Jesus about it and he said abortion is fine, just don’t get carried away with it.

  • dcrswm

    Of course the church doesn’t want abortions to happen. No abortion means more children which makes a better selection for the priests……

  • Alh3

    “the woman counts enormously.” “there is nothing magical about the cervix.” yeah, sure, you think women matter. If it’s MY cervix we’re talking about; yeah, it’s magical! You can be part of humanity as long as you’re not inside my body, and when you’re inside my cervix, you’re inside my body. So, yeah, if you want to think birth is magical, go right ahead.

  • Alh3

    I did read them, that’s why I noted how you pretend to care about women that they “count enormously” and then go right ahead and pretend like a cervix is just a random thing floating out in space, that a fetus might travel through, as though it isn’t really part of my body. Because if you admit that it really is part of my body, you would have to admit that I really do have a say in what happens in my body, no matter what you think or don’t think about what fetuses are or when they get a magical thing called a soul or whether you think it is murder.

  • cpumechanic

    If someone is alive and has verifiable human DNA, they are a live human being. Some people scoff at very young pre-born children as if they are not “people”. This is a very slippery slope. The Nazi’s opinion was that the Jews were not people, but sub-humans akin to smart animals. In recent history, American’s and others felt that blacks were not people, but sub-humans, property akin to farm animals. Either someone is human or they are not. Not to mention the fact that most abortions occur after the pre-born child has an identifiable human form with a heart, arms, legs, etc.

    The bottom line choice is that we can either eliminate the life of a verifiable human being for reasons that we choose (whatever they are) or we can’t because it would be wrong to kill a human being.

    This is a fact. Not an opinion, but an easily verifiable fact. That is the decision that is before us and before everyone who contemplates an abortion.

    Please note, I did not bring circumstances into this discussion about the types of reasons why someone would want to kill a human being, so those are immaterial to my point.