Obama: My ‘social gospel’ work dispels ‘war on religion’

“I find this very puzzling, because my first job, my first real job out of college, was working with churches … Continued

“I find this very puzzling, because my first job, my first real job out of college, was working with churches in low-income communities, trying to make sure that the social gospel was made real, that people were getting help.”

-President Barack Obama, March 13, 2012, on being puzzled on why some think he is fighting a war on religion.

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US President Barack Obama speaks about US energy at Prince George’s Community College in Largo, Maryland, on March 15, 2012. Obama said his administration has reduced the United States’ dependence on foreign oil and promoted alternative forms of energy. AFP PHOTO/Jim Watson

  • ccnl1

    Obama “mouths” that he is Christian i.e. believes in gay Gabriel and war-mongering Michael the Archangel and Satan. BO’s support of choice/ abortion however vitiates has Christianity as he is the leader of the Immoral Majority who are now the largest voting block in the country. Immoral Majority you ask??

    The 78 million voting “mothers and fathers” of aborted womb babies !!! (2012 -1973 Rowe vs. Wade = 39.

    39 x 2 million = 78 million. (Abortion rate in the USA as per the CDC is one million/yr. )

    And the presidential popular vote in 2008? 69,456,897 for pro-abortion/choice BO, 59,934,814 for “pro-life” JM. The population of the Immoral Majority in 2008? ~ 70 million !!!!!!

  • hebaber

    Being a good person, working to promote the social gospel, doen’t make you a religious believer. Being religious means you believe in the supernatural and engage in religious rituals.

    Obama is an atheist. Of course I voted for him and will again because I don’t believe that a candidate’s religious beliefs or lack thereof is relevent. But I do wish he’d come clean. Maybe at the end of his second term he will. I’m waiting.

  • Carstonio

    For the most part, the accuasation against Obama comes from people who believe that (their version of) Christianity should have a privileged position in society, or at least be considered the default religion. Some espouse the myths that have accumulated about the Pilgrms and thus define “religious freedom” as the freedom of believers to have a society based on their beliefs, instead of the freedom of the individual believer to follow whatever religion he or she wishes. There’s nothing wrong with believing that one’s own religion has values that societies should have. But what they advocate is that the society should have those values *because* they come from a particular religion, instead of arguing for any secular merit for the values.

  • Carstonio

    Even though I’m not religious, I find plenty of secular merit in the teachings of Jesus. That’s not the issue. I’m condemning the mentality that insists that only one religion has values of any merit, or that insists that society should adopt those values *for no other reason* than that religion espouses them.

    And I’ve said repeatedly that there’s no basis for taking any position on whether the supernatural exists, as described in the Bible or anywhere else, so I simply say that I don’t know either way. Stop framing issues and arguments and mindsets as either Christian or anti-Christian. Many people can and do take positions of neutrality on all religions.

  • revsonya

    oh, sweetie — the people claiming you are fighting a war on religion don’t believe in the social gospel — they believe in a triumphalist jesus. they truly believe that christianity should be privileged over every other religion — they want a theocracy in practice if not name because they think that’s what jesus wants. clearly, these folks don’t read the gospels much. but those of us who do don’t think you’re attacking religion. we think they’re being ridiculous. but you won’t convince them. they have embraced the deception because it makes them feel better. not your fault.

  • catatonicjones

    Because the republicans are infested with religious fanatics, I never vote for them anymore. Because Obama claims to be just as religious, I don’t vote for him either.
    How could such an intelligent man buy into this crap? Either he’s a liar pandering to the religious idiots. or he’s an idiot himself.

  • ccnl1

    The real “Obamacare” i.e. getting re-elected on the backs of 39 million aborted womb babies by using the votes of the 78 million voters involved in said abortions.

  • coryjorgensen

    Scottin VA, I find it very confusing that the same people who are pushing more and more for America to incorporate more Christian/Biblically based policies into society are the ones who stridently denounce the mixing of Islamic theology and government in other countries. Rick Santorum is a prime example, and the examples are too numerous to list here. The tenets of Islam, too, have much merit, but you won’t see any of the current Republican nominees touting the virtues of the Five Pillars. So, best to leave each to his own religion (or none at all) no matter how meritorious any one faith may be.

  • cpameetingbook

    What in the world is the ” social gospel” and who is the Deity procreating it?

    Oh wait, I get it. Obama in his own mind can preach the Gospel. We will soon have the “Gospel according to Saint Obama” read in church. Except without the Saint part.

  • DaveHarris

    Republicans keep having to come up with new lies to tell about Obama. It’s not enough that he’s the illegal alien foreign dictator who’s taken away their guns and imposed communism. No, he has to be waging war on Jesus, too. Of course, Republicans themselves are waging wars on so many things and people it’s hard to list them all: women, gays, Mexicans, foreigners in general, scientists, anyone with an education, economists, unions, workers, the Earth, people who don’t live in small towns, the poor, people who need food stamps, the unemployed, . . . to name but a few.

  • rawebb1

    The bizarre thing about our present political climate is that the Party that represents the rich and powerful and who thwarts efforts to help the poor and needy has somehow claimed the mantel of Christ. If people would actually read the Bible, they would discover that sex is no big deal–yes, adultry is wrong, but look into the details–and that evil in both the Old Testement and the New is defined as the rich and powerful not doing right by the weak and poor. The people voting their Christian convictions in Republican primaries these days would not recognize Christianity if Jesus came down with angels blowing trumpets and slapped ‘em upside the head. You can’t be cruel and call yourself a Christian–and yes, I know the history to the contrary. The elaborate cruelities being practiced on women seeking abortions and the disregard for real suffering amongst the needy are not reflections of the spirit of Christ.

  • jsmith4

    ScottinVA seems to think that only bible readers have concluded that killing is not morally acceptable.

    Wake up Scott: there are billions of non-Judeo Christians who are just as moral as you are, believe it or not. What a concept!

  • ccnl1

    If the Pill and male condoms were used properly, abortion/choice would not be an issue and the ‘social gospeling” Obama would not be president.

  • cprdcnats

    Maybe because you viewed the social gospel as a means to political power and ultimate subjugation of your former employers? Whereas Jesus Christ would have admonished you for your hubris and directed you to give up all you had (your votes, your party machine support, your Planned Parenthood money) to actually live the Gospel. The gate is narrow, President. Will you unpack your camel full of claimed unconstitutional authorities to get through? Or will you fall for the devil’s temptations? Will you choose the promised political dissident Jesus Barnabas over Jesus Christ?

  • cprdcnats

    Except that 54% of all abortions involved failed contraception. So much for protection.

  • cprdcnats

    What Bible do you read from? The one in which Jesus sells his soul to the Devil in the desert for food and to control Kingdoms? The one in which Jesus accepts the crowds demands he become King? The one in which Jesus abandoned his supernatural powers to take wine from the rich man to serve at Cana and challenged his disciples to share in order to feed 5000? The one in which Jesus merely handed over some earthly water to the woman at the well? The one in which Jesus Christ leads an insurrection with Jesus Barabbas? The one in which Jesus gives up his entire existence and redemptive purpose to be a liberal activist/social worker?

  • Okie1

    Seems to me that we ought to be paying attention to the Sermon on the Mount instead of the 10 or however many there are Commandments which do not foster social justice and help for the helpless. Social Gospel is not a set of rules–read and you’ll see.

  • flipper49

    Obama is SUCH a liar! He claims that the predominantly Christian United States of America is “no longer a Christian nation.” He’s been against Christianity from the beginning. He calls hate-filled, racist Jeremiah Wright’s former church a “Christian” Church. This CLEARLY indicates his contempt for Christianity. In fact, one of the first things he did after taking office was to offer support to Islam (NOT “Muslim Americans!!). Islam is a TINY minority of Americans.

  • ccnl1

    The 54% failures is actually not due to the Pill or condom failing but due to not taking the prescribed dose of the Pill i.e. once a day or leaving the condom in the guy’s pocket. See the Guttmacher’s 2010 review for added details.

  • flipper49

    Carstonio, you seem to have no concept of what Islam actually is. IT’s not just “another religion” AT ALL; it’s a wannabe world power disguised as a religion…a real pseudo-religion. It’s not at all like Christianity. In fact, it claims Christianity is not of God, yet much of the Qu’ran is stolen word-for-word from the Bible, which had been written 800-years earlier.
    Islam isn’t a candidate for “freedom of religion”; it’s a political power which wants to make YOU submit to them…willingly or otherwise.
    Unfortunately, what you see as representing Christianity is a bunch of “mega-churches”…clubhouses to which one goes to be placated in his/her sinful state rather than a place of healing FROM sin such as a real Christian church. If you don’t really pay attention, it IS easy to confuse the two.
    What you way about the Bible’s not being a “user’s manual” is not true at all. In fact, it’s EXACTLY that. The stories show us the rewards for following God and the consequences for NOT doing so. Those stories (of the O.T.) are about God’s chosen people who eventually rejected Him when he actually came to Earth…and the sad results of this rejection.
    ScottinVA is correct; throwing the Bible away so you can think you’re getting away with sin is ludicrous; God isn’t fooled.
    For example, people try to explain away their ill-conceived concept of what sin actually is and try to make us think homosexuality is simply “an alternate lifestyle.” God said: “If a man also lies with a man, as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.” (Lev. 20:13, King James 2000 version). In one of those O.T. stories, we find the results of homosexuality in Sodom and Gomorrah: death.
    Those are God’s rules…not mine or any other Christian’s.
    Carstonio, a set of values doesn’t come from a religion; a religion is founded upon a set of values.

  • Carstonio

    Flipper, you’re making the same mistake as Scott, framing religion and morality as either accepting or rejecting Christianity. I didn’t mention Islam at all so there was no reason for you to bring up that religion. And the “sad results of this rejection” is the vile anti-Semitic position that the Holocaust and the pogroms were the Jews’ just desserts,

  • rodonsan

    As a Native American, I don’t beleive in God. My people have been on this continent longer than everyyone else. All whites no matter where they come from are illegle aliens and should go back where they came from and take thier religions with them.

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