Ron Paul: Birth control debate over whether government can force people to ‘violate their moral codes’

Robert F. Bukaty AP Republican presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, speaks to his supporters following his loss in the … Continued

Robert F. Bukaty

AP

Republican presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, speaks to his supporters following his loss in the Maine caucus to Mitt Romney, Saturday, Feb. 11, 2012, in Portland, Maine.

“The benefits or drawbacks of birth control are not the issue. The issue is whether government may force private employers and private citizens to violate their moral codes simply by operating their businesses or paying their taxes.”

-Ron Paul on the contraception controversy, February 15, 2012.

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  • MinnyMa

    Rep. Paul may be on to something. Can the government force people to violate their own moral codes? Can people be forced to pay taxes for things that they object to (war, prison isolation cells, oil company subsidies)? What if people have a moral objection to government?

  • YaBoyNate

    That’s the issue with government overreach! Stick to the responsibilities listed in the Constitution and no more and you won’t have these problems.

  • WmarkW

    When “violating one’s moral code” is limited to paying money, so be it. Some find it morally reprehensible to pay for the Iraq war; others to financially support institutions they consider racist. Taxes are part of a package we pay to have a civilized society surrounding us; you can’t line-item which aspects of civilization you’re willing to have the government fund.

    Same with health care — some might object to paying for their employee’s long-term life support, others to paying for a death with dignity. If you object to paying for your employees getting the care THEY WANT, provided the price is reasonable, then don’t offer health insurance and advertise that prominently.

  • bennash

    We can all get along. The problem is our one-party culture that rushes to enslave each other with more and more laws. We can have free birth control for all WITHOUT a mandate. Its called free will and liberty. No one is stopping…oh wait yeah they are.

  • tejondour

    “If you object to paying for your employees getting the care THEY WANT, provided the price is reasonable, then don’t offer health insurance and advertise that prominently.”

    I have to agree. I’m planning to vote for Ron Paul, but he’s off-base on this one. Questioning the ability of the government to mandate that an employer provides health care in the first place is consistent with his Constitutionalist platform, but dissecting it beyond that is wrong. “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,” and that cuts both ways: no tearing down, no propping up.

  • FLJohn

    Not CAN, SHOULD. The government CAN force people to do almost anything. Sadly, many Americans don’t appreciate the fact that coercion is the least effective and most expensive means of achieving anything. The loss of freedom in society is not only an assault on to human dignity it is also terribly wasteful.

  • ScottJM

    But he’s not talking about Congress making a law to “tear down” or “prop up”, he’s saying that Congress shouldn’t be aloud to mandate health laws to anyone or any business. Obamacare is at fault here.

  • neils732

    I’m a Ron Paul supporter. The other candidates are too radical for me. But he makes the mistake of making a religion out of libertarianism. He gets stuck in ideology when functionality is more important. The best example is his opposition to the Civil Rights Act. No white man from south Texas can comprehend the indignities and humiliations placed across the backs of black people in the Jim Crow south. Violations that really constituted harassment, invasion of privacy, disorderly conduct, intimidation, and obstruction of justice on an almost national scale so huge that it could only be confronted as a declaration of war by one group of citizens on another. When black men had to step off into the street with their children if a white person came walking towards them. This is a level of unconscionable government-supported humiliation that no one in Mr.Paul’s family has had to endure.

    There is no reason at all that a restaurant doing profitable business on a thoroughfare paid by everyone’s taxes, should have the right to insult any citizen on that thoroughfare by refusing service.

  • neils732

    Here’s another example where RP is stuck in ideology: the gold standard. There is not a thing wrong with fiat money. Money is just a means of measuring exchange, and even gold is only worth what people are willing to pay for it. It has no more “intrinsic” value than paper rectangles with green printing does.

  • tejondour

    He’s talking about both, and I agree with the latter. But this quote, and the entire essay it’s drawn from, are specifically directed at the subject of birth control vs. Catholicism. It’s a tangent, irrelevant to the larger issue, and the overall message is IMO sullied by discussion of this red herring.

  • MJPTHOC

    History does not agree with you

  • TheGaines

    The difference between “fiat” money and gold is that a government cannot just print gold willi nilly when it cannot meet its obligations.

    HUGE difference!!!!

  • dylbro

    You are almost there… except Ron Paul isn’t promoting the return to gold standard. He understands what your saying, but he fully realizes that the problem is the control and monopolizing of currency.

    When you force a civilization to “borrow” money at interest and force them to pay that debt with that borrowed money and nothing else you create a monopolized currency and a debt slavery system. All those who than use that currency become “lesser slaves” as they have been forced to give up a portion of their labor to make up the difference in the debt system.

    It is about currency competition! Not about a gold standard.

  • MJPTHOC

    When other Law is in effect (ie: 13, 14 and 15th amendments) the CRA is not needed and it seperates out for special treatement a certain “race” which is unConstitutional. Further, it only applies to Southern States to keep them under subjugation of federal gov’t. Otherwise when does the special treatment based on race end? If it is wrong for “whites” to recieve special treatment, how is it “right” for blacks to???

  • dylbro

    Also I want to point out Gold does have a more intrinsic value than paper money. Not literally but psychologically because of its historic use and thats what matters. Both have their pros and cons but again it isn’t about what we use as currency but rather who controls the flow and the interest gained from it. Either we the people can earn interest by owning our own money and loaning it out to banks or we can pay banks and enslave ourselves by paying them interest that cannot be paid with anything but that debt itself enslaving ourselves to a debt system.

  • soldtoday

    Warning ,I just found out I cannot vote in the Arizona Presidential Preference election this year as I did not make the change to my voters registration in time. I thought I was registered as a Republican but was actually registered as no party preference. My wife who also wanted to vote for Ron Paul cannot vote either. There are no doubt thousands of people who would vote for Ron Paul but will and did not make the 29 days before election change to their voter registration. People all over the country need to check this out or they too may not be able to support the true conservative candidate of the people.

  • bcgcalkin

    Mr. Paul and his family have endured government-sponsored humiliation for a long time now.

  • medalton03

    If the constitution were treated with respect most of our problems would have never begun. Ron Paul might not be the best candidate to represent the ideals of liberty and constitutional government. But he’s the only one even talking about it, so he’s got my vote.

  • bfkeane

    Plenty of people are debating the role of gold in the international monetary system to help guard against currency manipulation, and the problems of Fed monetary policy are part of a basic understanding of macroeconomics whatever your political slant. This isn’t radical like the lame media seems to think. For instance lookup Robert Zoellick (World Bank president) and David Stockman (Reagan’s budget director).

  • bfkeane

    Californians: you have until 15 days before the June 5 primary to change your party affiliation. The GOP primary is “closed” i.e. you need to register as a Republican, “Decline-to-State” voters cannot participate. Pick up a form at your local post office or library. Do it soon, it’s easy – the postage is even prepaid.

  • david6

    Anyone can claim that their immoral behavior is caused by their moral beliefs. Lester Maddox and Tim Dolan are both unable to make a coherent argument for using the law to treat a group of people as inferiors.

  • david6

    Gold bugs are profoundly ignorant of economics.

  • dlpartyka

    Ummm that was 50yrs.ago Let it go. No one is saying bring it back they’re saying let it go!

  • dlpartyka

    Ummm that was 50yrs.ago Let it go. No one is saying bring it back they’re saying let it go!

  • usapdx

    No one, group or the government can violate the supreme law of our country, the Constitution. Ron knows that as well.

  • Zenmunk

    Yet one more tool to help educate the unconverted and further prove support for Dr. Paul among Independents:

    election4uspresident2012.weebly.com

    Please use it. Thanks!

  • Javamcphearson

    The dollar “value” of gold has increased 10 fold since 1980. Does our dollar buy 10 times as much during the same period? No, hard currency retains its value, it is just that the dollar has become devalued due to overprinting. Don’t you wish you were paid in gold rather than paper?

  • Secular1

    I had enough of this white cry babies. Who is this moron bcgcalkin, who claims that Paul & his family had endured governemnt humiliation. Where is from. When was this bigot Ron Paulever been humiliated, by a government caveat. This in a way to contrast the humiliation sufferred by blacks before 1960s, shows what a racist this creep bcgcalkin is.

    I have myself received a letter from Ron Paul way back in 1982, which was laced with caustic remarks, when I approached him as one of his constituents for help with an immibration mater. Essentially the between the lines sub-text was “you FERNER don’t bother me with your issues. Be content we are letting you stay here. Just shuttup and do what you are told to do.”

    I know Ron Paul’s libertarianism far more than most of the leftists media pundits even. He is as fake as three dollar bill. I suspect so is his son.

  • Secular1

    I had enough of this white cry babies. Who is this moron bcgcalkin, who claims that Paul & his family had endured governemnt humiliation. Where is from. When was this bigot Ron Paulever been humiliated, by a government caveat. This in a way to contrast the humiliation sufferred by blacks before 1960s, shows what a racist this creep bcgcalkin is.

    I have myself received a letter from Ron Paul way back in 1982, which was laced with caustic remarks, when I approached him as one of his constituents for help with an immibration mater. Essentially the between the lines sub-text was “you FERNER don’t bother me with your issues. Be content we are letting you stay here. Just shuttup and do what you are told to do.”

    I know Ron Paul’s libertarianism far more than most of the leftists media pundits even. He is as fake as three dollar bill. I suspect so is his son.

  • Secular1

    Ron Paul, is a closet Christian fundamentalist. He knows there a enough loonies out there who are carrying that water. This is the first time he has come out of the closet, on that.

  • srobson02

    “there is not a thing wrong with fiat money” …are you high?

    at least if our currency was tied to some sort of real-world commodity then there would be little to no inflation, which in itself is a hidden tax forced upon the middle class. ALL FIAT, PAPER MONEY MONETARY SYSTEMS IN THE HISTORY OF THIS PLANET HAVE FAILED….PERIOD

  • theaffluentsociety2

    Ron Paul’s opinion.
    federal government can never force anyone to do anything not explicitly said in the consitution (ignore that pesky general welfare clause).
    state government can do anything it frigging wants, so long as it is written in the state constitution, and not explicitly denied to state power in the federal constitution.
    thanks, but no thanks

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