Peter King’s hearings: Islamophobia draped in the American flag

Rep. Peter King (R-NY) heads the House Homeland Security Committee. (Washington Post) Representative Peter King, Chair of the House Homeland … Continued

Rep. Peter King (R-NY) heads the House Homeland Security Committee. (Washington Post)

Representative Peter King, Chair of the House Homeland Security Committee, will hold hearings this Thursday on “Radicalization of Muslim Americans.” While hearings on the threat of domestic terrorist attacks are important, regrettably King’s long standing anti-Muslim track record and the choice of the hearings title, “Radicalization of Muslim Americans,” have led many to fear the emergence of a successor to Senator Joseph McCarthy and a new neo-McCarthyism.

Peter King is an ideologue who for many years has uncritically hounded Muslim Americans, brush-stroking the Muslim American community with a series of unsubstantiated accusations. He sees no reason to let facts or evidence get in the way.

In 2004, King claimed in an interview with Sean Hannity that “no American Muslim leaders are cooperating in the war on terror,” and that “80-85 percent of mosques in this country are controlled by Islamic fundamentalists.” And he staunchly insisted, without providing any data or citing any government reports: “I’ll stand by that number of 85 percent. This is an enemy living amongst us.”

Most recently, asked about an authoritative study by the Triangle Centre on Terrorism and Homeland Security “Muslim American Terrorism Since 9/11: An Accounting” that reported that 48 of 120 cases involving terrorist plots came from tips from the Muslim-American community, King responded that there had not been “sufficient cooperation” and that this would be a key focus of his hearing.

True to form he then responded with a “trust me” anecdote: “Certainly in my dealings with the police in New York and FBI and others say they believe they do not get the level of cooperation that they need.”

Furthermore, in a population estimated at four to six million Muslims, King consistently has ignored the fact that the overwhelming number of Muslims are not connected to any suspicion, arrest or conviction for terrorism.

If King had read the Triangle Centre on Terrorism and Homeland Security’s study closely, he would have noted, among other findings:

• That the number of Muslim Americans who were arrested for or perpetrated terrorist acts were 47 in 2009 and 20 in 2010.

• That the report points out that not only did tips from Muslim Americans provide information that helped authorities thwart terrorist plots, but also that: “Muslim Americans have been so concerned about extremists in their midst that they have turned in people who turned out to be undercover informants.”

Peter King blatantly ignores statements by key government officials like FBI Director Robert S Mueller III and US Attorney General Eric H Holder, and Michael Leiter, director of the National Counterterrorism Centre, who each praise the Muslim American community for playing an instrumental role in assisting law enforcement agencies. At last report, King won’t be calling any law enforcement officials, non-government experts or leaders in the Muslim American community. Instead, reports say that he will opt for non-experts, three witnesses who have no expertise in terrorism or homeland security, and anecdotal evidence.

What do we know, what does empirical evidence tell us, about Muslim Americans?

A Pew Research Center 2007 study found that most Muslim Americans are “decidedly American” in income, education and attitudes, rejecting extremism by larger margins than Muslim minorities in Europe. Similarly, a 2009 Gallup report found that 70% of Muslim Americans have a job compared with 64% of the US population. Muslim men have one of the highest employment rates of religious groups; Muslim women are as likely as Catholic women to say that they work. After Jews, Muslims are the most educated religious community in the US. Muslim women (unlike their Jewish counterparts) are as likely as their male counterparts to have a college degree or higher. 40% of women have a college degree as compared to 29% of Americans overall. As Denis McDonough Deputy National Security Advisor to the president commented Sunday, March 6, at the Adams (All Dulles Area Muslim Society) Center in Sterling, Virginia, in a speech framing the Obama administration’s strategy to successfully prevent violent extremism:

“You create jobs and opportunity as small business owners and executives of major corporations. You enrich our culture as athletes and entertainers. You lead us as elected officials and Members of Congress. And no one should ever forget that Muslim Americans help keep America safe every day as proud Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, Marines and Coast Guardsmen. Indeed, some of these heroes have made the ultimate sacrifice for our nation and now rest in our hallowed national cemeteries.”

Muslim Americans are as concerned about extremism and terrorism as other Americans. Their families and friends in “the old country” have been the primary victims of terrorist attacks. Like other Americans, Muslims also were victims; they too lost loved ones and friends in the 9/11 attacks. Moreover, they have seen their religion, not just the terrorists, vilified and as a result those in the mainstream majority have been victims of profiling, discrimination and hate crimes. Major civil liberties organizations have identified a host of serious abuses including racial profiling; overzealous and illegal arrests and detentions, surveillance, and wiretapping of Muslims, undercover infiltration of Muslim civic and religious organizations and trials using “secret evidence.” Yet, despite these extreme measures, as the FBI and Homeland Security have stressed, the majority of Muslims remain an integrated part of the American mosaic; many of their religious and community leaders and organizations work to fight extremism by cooperating and continuing to work with government agencies.

What about the future?

Of course there is an ongoing need to remain vigilant and to guard against potential domestic terrorist attacks. Homegrown extremism must be aggressively contained by law enforcement agencies, but done without brush-stroking local Muslim communities that notify and cooperate with them. The Muslim American community has demonstrated in its denunciations of acts of terrorism and its cooperation with law enforcement at the local and national levels that it is the most powerful national security partner protecting America and fellow Americans.

Peter King’s hearing is a staged event that will do little to shed light on the causes of domestic terrorism. If that were the goal then why not have government and non-government experts testify? Instead the hearing will be a platform for Islamophobia draped in the American flag, reinforcing ignorance, stereotypes, bigotry and intolerance in the name of national security.

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  • alamodefender

    islamaphobia is the FEAR of muslims.why does DISTRUST have to be avoided? because as usual the liberals have to create their own question to dispute.liberals never win arguments using facts.the fact is we don’t trust muslims,so drop your little”phobia”crutch and let’s talk.

  • jjorsi

    Sharia law in the U.S.? How can you be expected to be taken seriously when you make comments like that?

  • Aldol

    i notice a great deal of political correctness in this article. For a journalist, to be politically correct is equivalent to having no moral integrity in my opinion.

  • yasseryousufi

    Orange County gang of teabaggers has arrived on this blog! No place for sane argument~!

  • jjorsi

    If this guy gets any more McCarthy like, the Repugs will be nominating him for president!Gov.Christie, watch your back!

  • brucewla

    All this clap trap about Islam being a “peaceful religion.” Have you read it? It directs the faitful to kill jews. But you don’t hear that on MSNBC do you? Now of course most muslims do not follow that, just like most jews don’t stone people anymore. My problem is when someone shouts about Allah as he’s killing American airmen, this administration does not have the balls to say it was a terrorist attack. My problem is with TSA making 10 year old girls take off their shoes at the airport, while the 3 guys yelling at each other in Arabic are waved through. God forbid those erstwhile TSA morons be accused of “profiling.” How can you run a security or law enforcement operation without a certain amount of “profiling?” Don’t confuse the politically correct liberals with facts. And hey, libs, you know when Sharia law comes here you’ll be the first ones beheaded right? And you liberal women out there, I’m suprised at you for not speaking out against fundamental isalmic fascits. I guess it’s ok that women can’t drive, can’t work, cant be educated, and if they arent wearing the proper clothing can be shot in the head in a soccer stadium. Nice. I guess all the political correct wimps want to live in the 7th century. Well, I don’t.

  • YEAL9

    What causes Muslims to perform acts of kornanic-driven terror and horror?Mohammed was an illiterate, womanizing, lust and greed-driven, warmongering, hallucinating Arab, who also had embellishing/hallucinating/plagiarizing scribal biographers who not only added “angels” and flying chariots to the koran but also a militaristic agenda to support the plundering and looting of the lands of non-believers. This agenda continues as shown by the ma-ssacre in Mumbai, the as-sas-sinations of Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh, the conduct of the seven Muslim doctors in the UK, the 9/11 terrorists, the 24/7 Sunni suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the 24/7 Shiite suicide/roadside/ market/mosque bombers, the Islamic bombers of the trains in the UK and Spain, the Bali crazies, the Kenya crazies, the Pakistani “koranics”, the Palestine suicide bombers/rocketeers, the Lebanese nutcases, the Taliban nut jobs, the Ft. Hood follower of the koran, and the Filipino “koranics”.And who funds this muck and stench of terror? The warmongering, Islamic, Shiite terror and torture theocracy of Iran aka the Third Axis of Evil and also the Sunni “Wannabees” of Saudi Arabia.Hopefully, Rep. King’s investigation will put some specifics to this horror.

  • Koom

    King :”80-85 percent of mosques in this country are controlled by Islamic fundamentalists.” Nothing to back it up because there is nothing to back up that statement , fear and hate mongering as usual , like all Republicans they just make it up , they lie , they make up their own facts and numbers and their none too bright supporters just accept it as they do the garbage they are fed by Fox propaganda and by Limbaugh . When is the last time the Republicans did anything constructive ? This is all they guys do , all they have done for the last two and a half years , all they do is stir up trouble , create controversy and all of the chaos they can create . It’s nothing but a distraction , it blinds people , blinds their supporters as to what the issues are and to what the Republicans are doing , attempting to create a plutocracy where the super wealthy , the Corporations , the big wigs on Wall Street and the US Chamber of Commerce rule the rest of us . Tax cuts for billionaires and multimillionaires while trying to take from the the majority , take from the middle class and the poorer among us to make up for the short fall created . Their union busting is another example , they hate unions because unions give we the people , representation , some clout , some power and some protection , better we are powerless and at the mercy of the wealthy and powerful , of the Corporate CEO’s and upper management and the profiteers on Wall Street who keep demanding more and more . People need to wise up to the Republican party ,it’s all meant to distract and to divide us , while they are attempting to take all they can from us in order to enrich and empower the wealthiest and the corporations all the more , it is that simple .

  • tommariner

    Yes, I am concerned about the state (US) commenting on a religion, but an ad hominem attack on an elected official with direct comparison to McCarthy does my country no good. I know it is an extreme position, but if the Muslim community were really serious about the perception, wouldn’t they be publicly running their own investigations? They should be thanking Rep. King because if one of their members who is hiding in some dark corner is successful in yet another attack, Lord (which ever you believe in) help them. The fact that we are getting hysteria of “attacking a religion” makes some of us even more interested in the results of Peter King’s hearings.On the other hand, if television cameras are going, the theatrics on both sides of a hearing on the hill has never done anything but affect the election possibilities of the guys and gals sitting in the raised seats with the microphones. Sure would like to see some closed door hearings on this, just because I would really like some answers.

  • trueone

    America has lost its pride. These hearings say more about America than they do about muslims.

  • wallygeez

    Thank you [GODOFREASON] for bringing forth some statistics to counter idiotic statements…are you happier now [KOOM]? Or do you now want to dispell any information that runs contrary to your rant about Republicans?? The Muslim faith is steeped in an unacceptable past of intolerance and a sense of justice that only a lunatic in the name of “religion” can embrace. The Muslim concepts are so completely at odds with EVERY other religion, that there just isn’t even any room to discuss anything. Let them build their OWN country to their ideals of death and virgins in the afterlife and let them leave us the hell alone! (I’m assuming the 12 afterlife virgins forced to be with and owned by the guy who has them because he strapped a bomb to his chest and killed a bunch of innocents are getting punished for something – right?)

  • lbjack

    The extent to which a professed Muslim is civilized is the extent to which he is not an authentic Muslim.Despite his boilerplate bromides about how we must “aggressively contain” extremism — notice how he doesn’t say “Muslim” extremism — Esposito, whose Latino name makes a handy disguise, is a shill for terrorists and their sympathizers.And speaking of sympathizers, who cares if the vast majority of American Muslims have not been arrested as terrorists? That’s like saying that the vast majority of Germans had no active role in the Holocaust. While Esposito can make the fatuous claim that most Muslims are not terrorists, it is also a fact that most Muslims sympathize with the terrorists’ Islamist aims, which include the imposition of fascist Sharia rule worldwide.If Muslims pledge allegiance to America, then they are not good Muslims. If they pledge allegiance to the child rapist, slaver and mass murderer who founded their so-called religion, who demands obedience to HIS god, then they are true Muslims. But they are not Americans. Civilized Muslims recognize this dichotomy and understand that in accepting the norms of civilized society, they abjure the barbaric essence of Islam and are thus not true Muslims.It is fortunate, that all the “good” American Muslims Esposito brags about are not true Muslims. If they were true Muslims, like their brethren in Gaza, Iran, Syria, Somalia and Pakistan, then American streets would run rivers of blood.As it is, the moral and financial support of American Muslims for the barbarity of their “militant arm” is bad enough, and I applaud King’s attempt to root them out.Regarding the equivalence argument of King’s purported IRA connection, I think the civilized world would gladly trade Islam for the IRA any day.

  • nicky1430

    This is coming from someone THAT IS NOT A TEA-BAGGER, it comes from a citizen that truly questions the ideology of Islam. Yes this is American, and hence you forget after 9/11, people were not walking the streets beating up Muslims. I watched the entire incident 5 blocks away in my home and did not hold ill will towards Muslims by any means. However since then and the issue of the Mosque overlooking Ground Zero- it has enlightened me and I have done a lot of reading about Islam, listened to many debates on the issue and such. There are thousands of Mosques all across this country, and whether you want to admit it or not, 99.99% of terrorist acts are in the name of Islam. Does that make all Muslims guilty? No, and his investigation calls for the investigation of radicalization of peaceful Muslims on our own soil, which has been reported by all involved in every agency in our country is our biggest threat (homegrown terrorism). As you claim fox is a psycho channel I can say the same about the main stream media and their UNBALANCED coverage and support of the issue. The Mosque at the ground zero site- is a major issue and proves the point well. NOBODY has stated they dont have the right, the issue is the location PERIOD, and their true intentions. This project has had 3 imams, 4 name changes in less than a year, the simple solution if it were really in the name of peace would be to move it to another location. I am sure you are not aware that another Mosque opened 7 months ago 5 blocks east and 2 blocks south of the proposed location and THERE HAS BEEN NO PROTEST, ARGUMENTS, AND OF COURSE NO COVERAGE OF THIS. Proving my point above,it is strictly about location and shoving down the country’s throat is not a way to achieve peace and build bridges.

  • CharlesS

    Why stop with the Muslims Peter? The Muslims, Christians and Jews are the most bloodthirsty, murderous people to ever walk the Earth. They start fights with each other in their own countries. They travel all over the world to fight with one of the other groups. Abraham was a lunatic and these folks are following in his footsteps. God save us from religion.

  • drone_attacks

    Correct:America has lost its pride. These hearings say more about America than they do about muslims.======================For a long time, white and khazarian americans were used to committing crimes and blaming them on their victims.But the world has changed and does not support their lifestyle anymore. Partly because the world has wisened up. There is Comrade Hugo Chavez in Venezuela who kicked out American ambassador. There is Comrade Kim Jong Il of DPRK who walks with head high and does not give any special consideration. After WW2, the whole samurai race has be ground into geishas. Herbert Walker Bush vomited on the face of Toshiki Kaifu and the latter was the one apologizing. Japanese bashing was rife in the 90s and ended only with the collapse of japanese semiconductor market.

  • morphex

    If Esposito’s quotations from King are accurate and not taken out of context, then King is either a liar who makes up trash and promotes it as truth. He spreads this stuff, as Esposito says, behind the flag, but also behind the dignity and authority conferred by holding a seat in the House of Representatives. Or is he merely an idelologue who uncritically believes any trash that he hears or reads without doing any fact-checking, and he then spreads the trash around? In either case, neither his word nor his methods deserve our respect or trust.

  • greenstheman

    There is no Islamophobia, that is a term created to make people feel that they are prejudist. i have had many muslim friends over the years and they are good people, but that does not mean that we should not address a growing problem of people being recruited.To stick our heads in the sand and pretend there is a problem is derelection of duty by government officials,the politicians need to stop treating the american problem like we are uncapable of assesing a situation and make our own conclusion.The media needs to be objective when they report something instead of trying to feed people how we need to think.Islamophobia?? please!!!

  • sbnative1

    No one says all Muslims are “radicals.” BUT radical Islam is a deadly threat. Suggest Americans do their own homework and consult writers like Brigitte Gabriel ( Ayyan Hirsi Ali (, Bruce Bawer, Wafa Sultan, Walid Phares, Dr. Tawfik Hamid (, Dr. Zuhdi Jasser ( as well as books like the “Muslim Mafia.” Rep. King is WARNING America—before we end up like Europe. Thus his character is being systematically assassinated by the likes of CAIR, the Muslim Students Association (founded by the Muslim Brotherhood), and those in our government who are either useful idiots or worse. CAIR recently smeared ACT for America too, with a misleading video of events in California. Keep your faith, Rep. King. We need SOMEONE to shed light on homegrown radicalization, since our President is clearly too chicken— to do it.

  • boneyparte

    Hey Charless,You are correct, the sons of Abraham are the most murderous,Signed,Pol Pot, Emporer Hirohito, Chairman Mao, Comrade Stalin, Idi Amin, etc. etc.

  • sarahmspringsteen

    Oh my goodness the nature of all these comments makes me think we all just need meditation and anger management. It was an excellently written article and well researched. For the record I found it encouraging that the writer was a professor from Georgetown – are statistics and logical arguments somehow dependent on them being uttered from the mouth of a white man (provided he’s Christian of course). Have any of you ever tried to actually get to know an Islamic person? Lets please interject a little sanity into this. As to the stats most recent detailing all the recent terror attacks the world over. Are you seriously blaming Muslim Americans (Americans) – for terrorist attacks all over the world? I think the article was arguing that Muslim Americans have done quite a bit to protect the U.S. (their country). Honestly thats like blaming all white American men who protest against racial prejudice for crimes in South Africa. Or perhaps blaming the National Guard (who does quite a bit to protect the U.S.) for allowing Americans to be harmed abroad. In addition I think it’d be intriguing to know the number of lives they saved. But I suppose that statistic is harder to look for and its easiest just to blame people for mistakes not of their making. Also to the just as stereotyping liberals, could we please not lump all Republicans into hater category? There is no group think – no Rush Limbaugh mind for everyone. Loads of people think Michelle Bachmann and Scott Walker are trippy while still believing in smaller government. I have to say its fairly disheartening to see such an obvious lack of sanity in this discussion so frequently. Lets be reasonable people!

  • christine24

    Perhaps Peter King is hoping for a postion at Fox News if he isn’t re-elected…

  • loneguyland

    Why is everyone saying American values vs. Muslim values when they really mean Judeo-Christian values vs. Muslim values? This sounds like pansy talk to me. Totally obvious this is a promotional event for religious war. Operation: New Crusade.

  • boneyparte

    “The Muslim American community has demonstrated that it is the most powerful national security partner protecting America. Why is it being targeted?”Your use of the word “targeted” is an inacurrate buzz-word. If there are critics of the organized Muslim-Americans (most Muslims I know in the U.S. simply want to be left out of the debate and live peacefully and without stigma) the it is fair to analyze and review those criticisms. Instead you launch an attack on the critics proclaiming them a sort of bigoted group of ignorant boobs for daring to cast light on this political group operating actively to most Americans bewilderement. Why can we not ask -if you criticise your adopted country why do you yourself rage at any criticism?Why do you fail to criticise your country of origin for the ongoing genocide and forced removal of native people who happen to be Christian, Ba’hai or Sabean Mandean? This is an ongoing situation in Iran, Iraq, Egypt and Palestine.For not allowing minority religions to even operate much less build a church or synagogue (you would be amazed at how horrific even the idea of such a thing is in the Middle East (outside of Lebanon))?For not criticising terrorists and those who attack their newly adopted country?Do you really want to be here I ask those who angrily shout out against OUR supposed intolerance? You have been allowed your mosques and community centers. What have you done to prevent them from harboring more 9-11 plotters and those who infiltrate our civic and military groups only to start shooting at us? Where are those angry voices against the zealots in YOUR community?Why so quiet?

  • loneguyland

    Although Judeo-Christian may be overly broad in most cases.

  • yasseryousufi

    Thank you Mr Esposito for your uprightness and clairvoyance. Demonizing and humiliating 6 million American Muslims on a daily basis is not going to serve America in the long term. American Muslims have done everything they can to integrate into American Society. As this article mentions, they are more likely to be better educated, have a better job and more commitment to their families compared to average Americans. They contribute to well being of America. For the right wing nuts and Zionists to declare open season for Muslim hate in the garb of being pro-american, like this IRA terrorist Peter King…..well thats how great empires come to an end I guess. They disintegrate from within. No one can destroy america but americans. The enemies of america can trust on Fox News, Tea Party, AIPAC and Neocons like this congressman to deliver for them. Its not just Muslim. The US Government is now torchering blue blooded americans like Bradley Manning who hasn’t even been convicted yet, and no dares raise a voice against it. Thats how americans have been brainwashed by these real enemies of America. Take a deep breath and do a dispassionate analysis, who is more likely to destroy america? Check out this video if you have any doubts

  • YEAL9

    Previous testimony before Congress has indicated that there is a growing radical Islamist Wahhabi influence in U.S. mosques, financed by extremist groups. According to one expert, 80% of U.S. mosques are so radicalized.Then there is this:August 9, 2010 Germany shuts 9/11 plotters’ mosque in Hamburg The cultural association that runs the mosque has also been banned.A German intelligence report last year said radical Muslims had travelled to military training camps in Uzbekistan after associating at the mosque.

  • lbjack

    CHARLESS, your including Christians and Jews as “the most bloodthirsty, murderous people to ever walk the Earth” betrays a common delusion amongst those with a smattering of knowledge and absolutely no depth of understanding.What “bloodthirsty, murderous Jews”? The Jews of scripture, of thousand of years ago? Or the Jews trying to defend their homeland from a 70-year campaign of annihilation by Muslims?As for Christians, yeah, yeah, the Crusades and the Conquistadors and the Inquisition, blah, blah, blah…. Chrisitanity didn’t barbarize its followers but its followers certainly barbarized Christianity, even as it took centuries to induce them finally to practice what their religion professes. Islam makes no such effort. The only love it preaches is love for its merciless god, the only obedience, to its bloodthirsty Prophet, whom even your ilk wouldn’t compare to the founder of Christianity.In any case, it’s not what Jews, Christians and Muslims have done in the past but what they are doing NOW. And right now, the focus of barbarity in the world is the Muslims. With exceptions I can count on one hand, EVERY Muslim society today is marked by murder, violence, oppression, intolerance and corruption on a daily basis.So, enough of your intellectually dishonest and lazy equivalence of Muslims with Jews and Christians. Stop posing as an intellectual and try educating yourself about history before embarrassing yourself further. But I doubt you will, since you have lots of company, and for you company is more comforting.

  • windrider2

    It’s no wonder King is getting a free ride with his paranoid propaganda and deliberate persecution. Look at the comments here. Plenty of citations about what Muslims in OTHER COUNTRIES to, used to justify the persecution of AMERICAN Muslims. Well, OK, based on Christian terrorism in Ireland, King should be holding hearings on the radicalization of Irish American protestants and catholics…it’s exactly the same reasoning.This IS a witch hunt, paid for by American taxpayers, that deliberately avoids using no REAL evidence, based on nothing but hysterical bigotry and only allowing “experts” to spew anecdotal STORIES. And for what purpose, Rep. King? Where are you going with this? Rounding up Muslim Americans and jailing them just for their religion? We already did that after 9/11, by the thousands we rounded up and jailed innocent Muslims just because they were Muslims.America is starting to feel more and more like Nazi Germany, with the scapegoating of minorities used to whip up populist rage and fear.And it’s certainly become 1950s red-baiting America, led by the drunk Joe McCarthy; those persecutions destroyed thousands of lives and careers of innocent people whose only crime was intellectual thought and philosophy not sufficiently anti-communist.When empires collapse, this is how they act. We can’t win a single war despite trillions to the military. Our moral influence abroad has been destroyed by Gitmo and Abu Ghaib, by our full-throated embrace of torture. Our economic influence is shrinking as the criminals who sucked trillions out of our economy are not allowed to practice their crimes in other countries. We invent nothing, we create nothing, we manufacture nothing. We offer nothing to the world, not even GENUINE commitment to human rights and the fundamental values in our own Constitution.Rep. King, and the bigots commenting here, spit on the values of the America I was born and raised in. They’d burn our own constitution if it allowed them unfettered persecution of Muslims, Mexicans, and every other minority they fear and loathe.A sad end to a great country that was once a light to the world, and is now nothing but a pile of burning embers.

  • YEAL9

    What drove the attack on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon? The koran, Mohammed’s book of death for all infidels and Muslim domination of the world by any means. Muslims must clean up this book removing said passages admitting that they are based on the Gabriel myth and therefore obviously the hallucinations and/or lies of Mohammed. Then we can talk about the safety and location of mosques and what is taught therein. Until then, no male Muslim can be trusted anytime or anywhere.

  • Zotz123

    There are 1.5 billion Muslims in the world. How is it possible to doubt that the great majority of this group simply want to lead their lives and raise their families in peace and prosperity? Yes, out of a total of 1.5 billion even a small minority is enough to raise a ruckus. BUT IT IS A SMALL MINORITY. Doubtful as it may seem, this is true even in places like Pakistan or Saudi Arabia. Of course, we must fight the extremists. Of course, we must search out and destroy jihadists wherever they be. But the vast majority of Muslims are as peaceful and family oriented as anyone could possibly want. AND COOPERATIVE WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT. These are decent people in the best meaning of the word. King is a rabble-rousing idiot. Just look back on his relations with the IRA in Ireland. He is a man who supported Irish terrorism from the word go. His persecution of Muslims is disgusting. And I’m neither Muslim nor Irish. American Muslims deserve our strong support. They are in a very difficult position, being exposed to retaliation from their own community the more American they get. Baroness Warsi, in the UK, the highest ranking Muslim in their government, receives death threats every day because of her steadfast cooperation with the law enforcement officials of her country. Do not underestimate the dangers so many of these people are running in order to be and remain good Americans. We can take care of the few extremists. The FBI and other agencies have been doing an excellent job on that. There is no reason whatsoever for grandstanders like King to put on circuses like his hearings to vilify and condemn Muslims the vast majority of whom deserve praise, not condemnation.

  • eriksorenson

    *Islamaphobia is not even a word

  • abrahamhab1

    Why America is suspicious of the “poor innocent Muslim community”? Because the evidence. Their loyalty is first and foremost to their faith. They define themselves by their faith, which is an amalgam of religion, political ideology and a culture. It is a supremacist ideology with no data to back it up other than what their scripture claim. Their scriptures teach them to hate the “infidels” and America to them is the most powerful of the infidels; the big Satan. An amazing fact is that the most educated of this group has a worldview not subdtantially different than that of the most ignorant amongst them.

  • Yeanay

    Oh, what a tool Congressmen Peter King (-R New York) is for the monied class.Let’s take our focus off of the promise we made to create Jobs in America. Let’s take our focus off of the financial crisis in our country that is ruining our personal lives. Let’s take our eyes off of the prosecution of the Wall Street Fraudsters who violated federal, state and international laws in order to enrich themselves at the public’s expense.We need a new enemy to persecute, an enemy that we may elevate above everything else, an enemy that we can balloon into a fearful monster in the eyes of the public. In this way, we can take the heat of public scrutiny and outrage off of the Fraudsters who created the scams and the resulting financial crisis and we can distract from the fact that we in the new Republican Congress have no intention of doing anything to create the jobs we promised.Hmmmmm. Who can we target? Who would be most convenient?! Muslims! That’s it, Muslims!Let’s target Muslims. We’ll scare the hell out of the American people by evoking the spectre of September 11, 2001, and we’ll succeed at protecting our Republican base (the haves and the have-mores), while doing nothing to improve the economy and forcing the American public to swallow the consequences of the whole financial depression themselves.Brilliant!Way to go! You’re a real Peter, King!

  • lbjack

    WINDRIDER2 illustrates stupidity cloaked in sanctimony.Islam is not a nationality or an ethnicity but a set of beliefs and values, imposed by fascism masquerading as religion. To compare the worldwide carnage of Islamic societies with “Christian” Ireland betrays a mentality beyond stupidity and dishonesty, approaching the realm of delusion.Yes, we’re talking about OTHER COUNTRIES where Islam has its way, to illustrate the nature of what American Muslims believe. As if we in this country have not already been exposed to Muslim belief first-hand, not only by 9/11, but by the murder and mayhem and failed attempts since then.Idiots, i.e. Esposito’s constituents, eager to display their self-proclaimed virtue, can easily go back and find plenty of bad Christian acts, because they are exceptional in a civilization where civility and decency are norms. On the other hand, one can indeed make generalizations about Muslims because BARBARITY IN MUSLIM SOCIETIES IS THE NORM, and murder, oppression and corruption become a blur and lists are endless.The problem with Esposito and his ilk is that they equate Nice with Right. Narcissists like them want to be liked, so they are always depicting themselves as Nice People, even to the exclusion of facts that are not nice. In fact, so devoted are they to themselves, that they eagerly marshal facts to conform to their self-promoting agenda.You can see the result in the chest-thumping of Esposito’s obtuse army of virtue here.Oh, by the way, Stupid, we weren’t concerned about Ireland because we knew the violence wouldn’t spread here. Why? Because the Irish are not Muslim.

  • areyousaying

    These posts are further proof Abraham was the original Satan and his evil spawn will eventually destroy mankind.

  • yasseryousufi

    An amazing fact is that the most educated of this group has a worldview not subdtantially different than that of the most ignorant amongst them.————————Hey Abraham! Do you consider yourself an educated Jew? Your world view, rather your hate for muslim people you display post after post is not too different from that of the uneducated, scum of the earth Jewish Squatters from Russia that come to occupy land of Palestinian farmers.

  • eezmamata

    YASSERYOUSUFI, that’s a good boy! Trade hate for hate, ugly names for ugly names, you’re sure to advance your cause in this manner.By the way, do you even know where Yorba Linda is? Corona? Anaheim Hills? You’re always whining about how people don’t know what’s going on the parts of the world you consider important.Should we accept your vitriolic attack on ABRAHAMHAB1 as justified, or just hypocrisy. Should we accept your complaints that Americans don’t know about your world, but that you don’t know about ours as justified, or is it still more hypocrisy?Really, YASSERYOUSUFI, most of us have placed you in the same category as YEAL9, your posts make us glad for how quickly the mouse wheel allows us to scroll vertically past your noise.

  • YEAL9

    “John L. Esposito is professor of Religion and International Affairs and director of Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal center for Muslim-Christian understanding at Georgetown University”.And there is this: “The center has received a $20 million endowment from Saudi Arabian Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal “to advance education in the fields of Islamic civilization and Muslim-Christian understanding and strengthen its presence as a world leader in facilitating cross-cultural and inter-religious dialogue”. In reality, the prince gave Georgetown (and Professor Esposito) $20 million to promote the Islamic myths of angelic revelations to a warmongering, womanizing (11 wifes) Arab named Mohammed.

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    Folks do know that Prince Alwaleed bin Talal is also one of the principle shareholders in Fox, right? You know, the guys who produce the right-leaning, quite anti-Muslim Fox News? I find the idea that he’s simultaneously supporting both Fox news and the Georgetown center as “proof” of anything amusing.Posted by: iamweaverKing Abdullah is a merry old soul. He diversifies. He owns and operates “Islamic Centers” all over the US, Europe, etc., and his conversion rate is high.When not busy buying American professors, the media, and laundering money for terrorists in Saudi Bank (Manhattan), he interferes in the affairs of other nations. Currently, for example, he is in Bahrain, so is Ahmedinejad, but that is another matter.When he has a breather from phone calls supporting Mubarak, stonings, beheadings, signing checks for the royal family to weekend in Cairo with little boys, etc., he takes a moment to dispatch troops to the East of Saudi Arabia as he is doing now, the better to quell democratic unrest.And a merry old soul is he.

  • jonswitzer

    Imam Rauf of Ground Zero is a “liberal” muslim. He is a poor spokesman for fundamentalist muslims. Cameron, Merkl and Sarkozy have all agreed that “multi-culturalism has failed in Europe when it comes to fundamentalist Muslims”. They have REFUSED to assimilate and instead have created Arabic-Shariah law enclaves in the middle of France, Germany and Great Britain. All three of those leaders warn that Europe is losing its “liberal democratic” soul due to out of control multi-culturalism, specifically fundamentalist Muslims. Make no mistake, part of the founders of our nation were fundamentalist Christians. Fundamentalist Christians made their peace with “liberal democracy” 200 years ago. They attempt to influence only by democratic process and limit themselves by the constitution and separation of powers. 200 years is a long history of Christians working with liberal democracies around the world.

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    LBJack:The problem with Esposito and his ilk is that they equate Nice with Right. Narcissists like them want to be liked, so they are always depicting themselves as Nice People, even to the exclusion of facts that are not nice. In fact, so devoted are they to themselves, that they eagerly marshal facts to conform to their self-promoting agenda.You can see the result in the chest-thumping of Esposito’s obtuse army of virtue here.I recall a conference in which the barbarity of Saudi men’s behavior to Saudi women came up. Many Saudi men, do, in fact, abhor it. John Esposito actually defended it. Saudi men in the audience objected.Narcissism informs this man’s thinking, as does his paycheck, courtesy of King Abdullah.

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    BLOGGERS:CCNL1, YEAL9 was permanently banned from this site by David Waters.David has been replaced by Elizabeth Tenety. Unless you want to read his cut and pastes, etc., ad infinitum, day in and day out, I’d suggest you drop Elizabeth a line.The last time we let him back on without contacting the OnFaith powers that be, it took forever to get him off. It’s all up to you, of course.Jes’ sayin’

  • jonswitzer

    I debated a muslim in my town who was a leader in his community (we actually played on an indoor soccer team together). During the debate he DENIED knowing anything about the term “jizya tax” and “dhimmi status” in Muslim countries. I shamed him publicly in the debate for his lack of historical understanding as a “spokesman” for Islam in our town. Immediately, immediately, after the debate he said to me, “O you must mean the yizya tax”. Suddenly, he remembered. His blatant public lie, from a man with whom I played great soccer for two years, has caused me to believe that maybe Muslims really do think it is okay to lie to defend their honor. In which case, you’ll have to forgive me for losing trust for fundamentalist Muslims. This is my experience in a small suburban town near Washington, D.C.

  • hitman2

    YAEL9 aka F/mansouriIf John Esposito’s University is getting aid from somewhere, you a migrated jew from Iran too reaped financial gains by migrating to the States.I am glad that such a hearing is taking place. It will fix the elightened moderate tail wagers muslims in their right place.American muslims do not need a certificate of loyality from anyone, but they do deserve an official appology someday, for what is going on now.

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    Hey Abraham! Do you consider yourself an educated Jew? Your world view, rather your hate for muslim people you display post after post is not too different from that of the uneducated, scum of the earth Jewish Squatters from Russia that come to occupy land of Palestinian farmers.Posted by: yasseryousufi Hey Yasser! You sound like the illiterate racist islamists who stole our ME land and left three million of us in exile and whose Oily allies run our congress and universities!You disappoint me.

  • EddietheInfidel

    Dr. Esposito criticizes Rep. King for failing to acknowledge the Triangle Centre on Terrorism and Homeland Security’s study stating that:• That the number of Muslim Americans who were arrested for or perpetrated terrorist acts were 47 in 2009 and 20 in 2010.I have a couple of problems with this criticism. First, just who and what is the “Triangle Centre on Terrorism and Homeland Security”, and what makes their “study” the standard for reporting? “Centre” isn’t standard American English spelling; “center” is. This seems to indicate that the organization isn’t an American organization, so it’s fairly easy for me to discount their “findings” without knowing what their agenda really is. I’ll investigate further to see what their background might actually be.Second, the claim that “the number of Muslim Americans who were arrested for or perpetrated terrorist acts were 47 in 2009 and 20 in 2010″ seeks to minimize the number of cases against muslims, while failing to mention the total number of arrests for terrorism attempts, and fails to compare these totals to the number of Christians and Jews that were arrested for similar terrorist activity.67 terrorism arrests of muslims may seem like a small number when compared to the total U.S. population, but if that number still constitutes the majority of terrorist actions, then perhaps Rep. King’s hearings are justified.

  • iamweaver

    EddieTheInfadel, all you have to do is google the name – it’s the “Triangle Center for Terrorism”, and the “triangle” refers to the familiar college triangle of UNC, Duke and RTI.And I rather disagree that 20 out of 1.5 million people is a statistically significant number. I think I can find 20 violent, mentally unbalanced folks in any group of that size.

  • DDiorioNDallas

    “….will do little to shed light on the causes of domestic terrorism.”Sounds more like your testimony in the defense of the five Holy Land Foundation fundraisers that were convicted on all counts in 2008, Mr. Esposito. You make your living defending radical Islam. You are on the wrong side of the issue and that honest American grants you legitimacy as a spokesman is a mystery to me.The John Esposito Dossier The American public should ask why Georgetown University accepted $20 million from the Saudis for an Islamic Studies program at Georgetown. Nothing you have to say on this subject has integrity.

  • yasseryousufi

    EEZMAMATA,Why do you always bother with your views on my posts? I can count at least a dozen times where you have said you dont read my posts and call me names. Yet there you are once again airing your views about me. Don’t you get it why I ignore you?? I don’t give a hoot about your opinions. I don’t care if you don’t want to read my posts. If you are for these gestapo hearings to humiliate muslims for their guilt by association, you are worse than Yeal because he is just a bot who doesn’t have a brain.

  • YEAL9

    To solve the problem:There never was and never will be any angels i.e. no Gabriel, no Islam, There was and never will be any bodily resurrections i.e. No Easter, no ChristianityAbraham and Moses never existed.Added details upon request.

  • jackp1

    The fact is that not all Muslims are terrorists but all 911 terrorists were Muslims.

  • runesnthistles

    Instead of criticizing King’s numbers, prove him wrong. Give proof that the majority of Muslims AREN’T anti-American, pro-Sharia law. What you fail to understand is that American values are not equal to Muslim values, and mosques teach adherence to Muslim values – not American. How many “free” woman do you see in Muslim countries? If you fail to acknowledge a potential problem, it won’t just go away. If there are SO MANY “moderate” Muslims, where are they? Why aren’t THEY speaking out? Why aren’t THEY in charge in their own countries?

  • Ferreter

    Have you no shame, Representative Peter King, Chair of the House Homeland Security Committee?

  • JustJoe3

    John Esposito’s article: Anti-American drivel draped in the bloody flag of “tolerance.”Tolerance for all things Anti-American, that is.

  • MaryJessel

    I’m glad that other people recognize that John Esposito is nothing but a Saudi-paid shill for promoting Islam in the West. Everything he writes and says should be considered in that context. He has no objective credibility whatsoever.

  • stevegoldstein

    FOLKS! Are we forgetting that this is AMERICA? The vilification that is so evident in many of the comments displays a narrow-minded bigotry that has no place in America. No ethnic group being represented among the comments is without stain. But, that’s not what we should be concentrating on here. Get with the program, folks. Stop the petty bickering. It does not do us justice as a nation.

  • DL13

    Probably there would be no hearings if the Muslim community took a more active stance in condemning jihadist terrorism, wherever it sticks up its ugly head, like a snake leaving its hole in the ground. Of course, there is a problem in that, those that oppose the Muslim fanatics are more likely to have bad things happen to them than those that docilely, turn their heads in another direction.

  • Koom

    King :”80-85 percent of mosques in this country are controlled by Islamic fundamentalists.” Nothing to back it up , nothing , like all Republicans they just make up the numbers ( or what ever ) , they make up their own reality and their none too bright supporters just accept it as the do the garbage they are fed by Fox propaganda and by Limbaugh . This is all they guys do , all they have done for the last two and a half years , stir up trouble , create controversy and all of the chaos they can create , fed their supporters what they want to hear , what they seem to crave . It’s nothing but a distraction hate and fear mongering , it blinds people , blinds their supporters as to what the issues are and to what the Republicans rae doing , trying to create a plutocracy where the super wealthy , the Corporations ,Wall Street and the US Chamber of Commerce rule the rest of us .

  • Bookkeeper2

    Mr. Esposito,Are Iranian Christians Islamophobic? Egyptian, Turkish, Saudi, Iraqi Christians. What of those in Northern Nigeria who have resisted jihad for 200 years since Usman Danfodio, and who are now burying their dead again? Are they Islamophobic too? What of the Arab Christians who were not able to share their faith in the Dearborn, Michigan Arab Festival, while Muslims were? Are they also irrationally fearful. What of Hindus in India? Are they also Islamophobic?Mr. Esposito, “Islamophobic” is a hateful way to describe these people who have suffered much. It is also disrespectful to those who see the witness of a thousand plus years of aggression and have reason to fear. Please clean up your language, and show respect to those whose fear is well justified.CE

  • jon32

    It would make me much happier if this article had a larger range of responses. It’s a bit disturbing to me that all of the responses to this article are coming from people who seem to be stuck in a state of fear about the Muslim faith. It is my sincere hope that this is not representative of most Americans. Just that most of us don’t always speak out.

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    For reasons unclear to most, Mr. Esposito, who is bankrolled by Saudi Arabia, currently, at work suppressing freedom in Bahrain and in the aast of SA, continues to blog here with no sense of shame whatsoever.

  • ohioan

    If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck…. you’d have to be blind to ignore

  • beekeeper6

    The 9/11 hijackers were pretty well educated right? I’m not sure what those education statistics have to do with anything.

  • Human5

    Mr. Esposito,The credibility of this article goes out the window with your introductions as the professor of religion as Founding director, Prince Alwaleed bin Talal Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding, Georgetown University. you are basically working for a Christionphobic, anti semite monarch and are acting as the mouth piece for Saudi Arabia. you should be ashamed of yourself carrying out this about you write in Arab news, a Saudi news paper about Anti semitism and persecution of other religions in Saudi Arabia.Do you think your article will ever see the light of day, you may even lose your job.Get your stuff together professor, you are too drunk on political correctness with the salary paid by a despotic monarch of Saudi Arabia.I think some senator should bring in a law to ban all saudi funding for mosques or any other religion related organization, like the one prof. works for. they have a very bad record on human rights and religious tolerence.

  • Mary_Cunningham

    My oh my, the fascist word! Well, when you have no numbers or any other facts, an insult is a valid technique. Farnaz1Mansouri21’s will show you that. Not hugely intelligent , but nevermind.I’ll respond one time (and if you call me another name then My point, in answer to JS not you, was that the Muslim population of Europe is far larger than that of the US and that the US should not have much trouble assimilating. Answering you: in Europe Bosnia, Albania, Montenegro are tiny, insignificant countries and in any case, the populations has been Muslim since the invasion of the Ottoman Turks in the fifteenth century.The far larger Muslim populations of France, Britain etc. are very recent phenomenons, the product in Britain at least of very lax migration laws. Saying that there are dangerous Islamic extremists among them is telling the truth! There are. But what was your point? (Other than calling me a fascist, of course). That If you can answer without ad hominems, it would be good. With them this stops here.

  • yasseryousufi

    Mary Cunningham,Am I to feel sorry for hurting the feelings of someone who puts up statistics right out of the playbook of BNP. Btw, I didn’t call you a fascist. But do you deny it is on the rise in Europe? These false flag statistics that you put up are used by Anti-Islam movement in Europe to stoke hatred and fear of muslims. Coming back to your post, if you’re strictly talking about the “Mechanic of Migration” why do you falsely imply that the muslims in 8 out of those 10 countries were migrants hence overbloating your figures? Where did Albanian muslims migrate from? Do you know the ethnic background of a muslim living in vladikavkaz? Like it or not, these people aren’t “foreigners”. They are as European as you are.

  • yasseryousufi

    Hey Yasser! You sound like the illiterate racist islamists who stole our ME land and left three million of us in exile and whose Oily allies run our congress and universities!You disappoint me. ——-Farnaz2Mansouri21Hey Farnaz! See the topic of this thread? And then read your response attacking John Esposito. Regardless of whatever his background is, aren’t you ashamed of yourself that you side with all these Islamophobes in supporting John King by attacking the messenger? I thought of you to be better than this.I too am very disappointed.

  • hitman2

    On the hearings by Peter King, NewYork Times editorial on 7th Mar-2011 says in its beginning:”Not much spreads fear and bigotry faster than a public official intent on playing the politics of division. On Thursday, Representative Peter King, the chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, is scheduled to open a series of hearings that seem designed to stoke fear against American Muslims. His refusal to tone down the provocation despite widespread opposition suggests that he is far more interested in exploiting ethnic misunderstanding than in trying to heal it”.

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    As I said earlier, this affair concerns the Roman Catholics and the Muslims. I have blogged many times against Islamophobia, but have yer to see a Muslim blogging AGAINST antisemitism. Even on this thread, which has nothing to do with Jews, Muslim antisemitism asserts itself.There have already been more than enough Jews, including WaPo columnists, blogging against these hearings. The day I read a Muslim reacting AGAINST antisemitism, on that day, I’ll reconsider posting on the matter of Peter King’s hearings.In the interim, it is between the Roman Catholics and the Muslims.The Roman Catholics are a strong presence in this country. Huge, and very, very powerful.(Ditto, the Protestants, who are the majority, and they have not exactly been hostile to Peter King’s enterprise. Haven’t heard much outcry from the Hindus either, btw.)

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    I should mention before I go that I am a Catholic and thus pre-empt Farnaz2 Mansouri21 from doing so. I found her ‘outing’ of both Esposito and King as Roman Catholics alternatively funny and contemptible!She is so predictable.Posted by: Mary_Cunningham | March 8, 2011 1Racists is racists I guess, and they do, as in her case, out themselves. I confess I was behind Onofrio, et al, who spotted it immediately, but oh well.And still obsessing about me, MaryCunningham? That and with counting Muslims?Oh, well. If it gives you something to do….

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    Hey Yasser,I wish I could say nice try, but not even….Neither do I support Saudi Arabia which is even now cracking down on its dissidents–has been doing so for weeks.This man Esposito is on the payroll of the man who brought you Zia.Abraham, like Esposito, btw., is a Christian, but Esposito is a Catholic.You are one sorry soul, Yasser. YOu call yourself an “educated Muslim”?You remind me of those Muslims “squatting on the land” they stole from us three million and counting….illiterate, screaming, thugs.Scream on, Yasser. Zia would approve. Ditto, OPEC.

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    Oh, and Yasser?Since you are so interested in people’s religions, a word about Peter King’s. He is a DEVOUT Roman Catholic, and I mean devout. He represents a devout Roman Catholic district that is 100% behind him in these hearings and in everything else he does. The Protestants and Muslims in his community have also supported him, and he stll retains some Muslim defenders.He is a darling of the RCC, in fact, beloved by the bishops. The Roman Catholics are a huge presence in this country. Huge.

  • yasseryousufi

    Farnaz,You pose too much, me thinks. Again, I refer to your post in response to this article. Not a word of condemnation for these gestapo hearings. Just thinly veiled contempt for a scholar who spoke with facts more than just opinions. What if his University has taken endowments from a rich Arab? At least he is not preaching hatred against Jews like Daniel Pipes who is on the payroll of the Zionist regime that’s given us world renowned terrorists. Zia’s crime don’t even come close to those of Zionists. Im sure you wouldn’t agree with King when he rants against against Jewish people, but here you do. That says something about you. PS: You sure you know who started this squatting business in the Middle-East?

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    King does not rant against Jews. I’ve met him, but that’s another story. The Islamists have brought us more devastation, the Wahabists more suffering than even Shah could imagine. I’m not speaking of the Hamas/Hezbollah Hariri murdering crew, and obviously not of Ahmedinejad.Abraham is a Christian. Peter King is an arch-conservative Roman Catholic. A Roman Catholic. Since you are so interested in people’s religions, I’m surprised you have no comment on this.He is beloved by his Roman Catholic constituents, has always been supported by the Protestants and Muslims he represents. I do not respect John Esposito or King Abdullah. I’m not fond of Peter King. I’m a Democrat, unlike the Roman Catholics, Muslims, and Protestants in his district.The Roman Catholics are a strong presence in this country. Huge, and very, very powerful.

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    Many, many times on this blog I’ve spoken out against Islamophobia, as have other Jews. Funny thing: I haven’t seen many Muslims (any) speaking out against antisemitism. Three million in exile…Haven’t seen a single Muslim posting on R. Hirschfield’s thread this go-round. Interesting.So…here’s how this one works, Yasser. It’s between the Roman Catholics and the Muslims. I’m gonna let them handle it. Enough Jews have already condemned these hearings. NOT our business.It’s a matter for the Roman Catholics and the Muslims.

  • jonswitzer

    I am happy to agree with you that the Fundamentalist Muslim population difference between us and Europe is significant. However, that changes my concern not at all. The question is whether fundamentalist Muslims are WILLING to assimilate with basic, classical “liberal Democratic Values”. If they do, I will be very happy. However, attempts to censor cartoonists, limit open debate about modern applications of Shariah law and other “Shariah” compliant requirements leave me unsure that our Fundamenalist Muslim neighbors are committed to “Freedom of Speech”, “Freedom of Religion”, “Freedom of Press”…basic liberal democratic values. They have NOT embraced these things in Europe. Here, they have attempted to muzzle “liberal” debate about Muhammed including “liberal” cartoonist freedoms. I simply beg of us all that we not lose our “liberal Democratic” soul in some extreme Multi-cultural binge, embracing what ultimately is incapable of true “liberal Civil Rights.”

  • YEAL9

    Getting to the heart of the problem:The koran, Mohammed’s book of death for all infidels and Muslim domination of the world by any means.



  • jonswitzer

    Merkl, Cameron and Sarkozy, the leaders of Europe, ALL have said that “multi-culturalism has failed” referring to the refusal of fundamentalist muslims to assimilate into their “liberal democracies.” They fear for the loss of the soul of their “liberal democracies” to the extreme multiculturalism. They say it is time to stop the Shariah law enclaves of Muslims who refuse to participate in their liberal democracies. Too many are being radicalized right in their midst. We would be wise to pay attention here!

  • Mary_Cunningham

    @Jon SwitzerYou have cited Europe a few times. I think the failure of migrants from Islamic countries to assimilate in Britain(or Muslim migrants as the largest countries of origin for new migrants–Pakistan, Bangladesh & Somalia–are betw. 95 to 99% Muslim)is due to the very large number of recent admissions. In order to assimilate, 2nd generation migrants need to cut their ties to their parents’ country of origin. However, the new migrants have served to reinforce the The Cameron gov’t is attempting to cut the level of nonEU migration drastically. If he is unsuccessful I fear we will have sectarian violence as the indigenous population is very angry and the Muslims as well not adverse to street warfare.Not good.

  • Mary_Cunningham

    I should mention before I go that I am a Catholic and thus pre-empt Farnaz2 Mansouri21 from doing so. I found her ‘outing’ of She is so predictable.

  • yasseryousufi

    In 2030, Muslims are projected to make up more than 10% of the total population in 10 European countries: Kosovo (93.5%), Albania (83.2%), Bosnia-Herzegovina (42.7%), Republic of Macedonia (40.3%), Montenegro (21.5%), Bulgaria (15.7%), Russia (14.4%), Georgia (11.5%), France (10.3%) and Belgium (10.2%)With the exception of France and Belgium what solution do you have for the muslims of other eight countries? Aren’t they as European and as White as you are? Where would you throw them back to? Whats their home country? Looks like fascism is alive and kicking in Europe. Haven’t you learn’t a lesson Mary?

  • YEAL9

    “One of the major tenets of Islam is to believe in the existence of angels.”So in the 21 century, what can we conclude about angels:A major item for neuron cleansing. Angels/devils are the mythical creations of ancient civilizations, e.g. Hittites, to explain/define natural events, contacts with their gods, big birds, sudden winds, protectors during the dark nights, etc. No “pretty/ugly wingy thingies” ever visited or talked to Mohammed, Jesus, Mary or Joseph or Joe Smith. Today we would classify angels as fairies and “tinker bells”. Modern devils are classified as the demons of the demented.”One wonders if Professor Esposito believes in fairies and the demons of the demented?

  • dangeroustalk

    This time atheists aren’t the target of the Republican witch hunt. In the 1950s, Senator Joseph McCarthy held hearings on un-American activity which focused on exposing the godless communist threat. Today’s threat comes from the god-fearing however. But it isn’t atheists holding the hearings; its Christian god-fearing theists vs. the even more god-fearing Muslims. Let me try to wrap my godless brain around this. Congressman King admits that “a very small minority” of American Muslims might be terrorists and that according to The American Religious Identification Survey; American Muslims make up about .6% of the population. So a very small minority of .6% (already a very small minority) might be terrorists. Wow! You can read the rest of my response to this topic:I will be responding to every issue posted in the ‘On Faith’ section. If you would like to be notified when my new response is up, please subscribe.

  • YEAL9

    A small minority, 0.6% of the 1.8 million Muslims in the USA— And a small minority of these are terrorists. Should we say O.6% of these 1.8 million or 10,800 koranic-driven, potential suicide bombers in our midst. No doubt Representative King is correct into publically evaluating the situation.

  • yasseryousufi1

    Mary Cunningham,I am glad you have corrected yourself. Those percentages you posted were indeed false flags as in terms of numbers, muslims in fact are a tiny minority in Europe. They can/will never overtake the indigenous population. I dont mind if the Europeans and Americans ban immigration for muslims. Might go on to serve both ways. We lose a lot of bright Engineers, Doctors, Professors to these foreign countries. I hope you would also agree that in return US and Europe would also take away their mercenaries in Islamic countries put their to ensure stealing of our oil.

  • YEAL9

    The reason for this hearing and one that takes priority over any hurt feelings or tears: What instigated the attack on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon? And what continues to drive Muslims to commit global acts of terror and horror? The koran, Mohammed’s book of death for all infidels and Muslim domination of the world by any means. Muslims must clean up this book removing said passages admitting that they are based on the Gabriel myth and therefore obviously the hallucinations and/or lies of Mohammed. Then we can talk about the safety and location of mosques and what is taught therein. Until then, no male Muslim can be trusted anytime or anywhere.–(Dr. Jasser, one of the witnesses at the hearing definitely is aware of the situation within Islam. One hopes he is successful in his attempts to modernize Islam.)

  • Mooody

    You all are simply afraid and applying deterent tatics to stop your own white mother, brother and sister so rapidly converting to Islam.It was 1000 time harder for the people who first became muslims…No wonder why in white racist colonies (WEST) very few numbers of other believes exists… because in the end they kill them, if fail to stop them forcefully. CURSED!

  • YEAL9

    Instead of any future hearings on the radicalization of Abrahamic religions:There never was and never will be any angels i.e. no Gabriel, no IslamThere was and never will be any bodily resurrections i.e. No Easter, no ChristianityAbraham and Moses never existed.Added details upon request.And then there is this for the crybaby politicians and clerics:Recognizing the flaws, follies and frauds in the foundations of Islam, Judaism and Christianity by the “bowers”, kneelers” and “pew peasants” will converge these religions into some simple rules of life. No koran, bible, clerics, nuns, monks, imams, evangelicals, ayatollahs, rabbis, professors of religion or priests needed or desired.Ditto for houses of “worthless worship” aka mosques, churches, basilicas, cathedrals, temples or synagogues

  • Mary_Cunningham

    YY:If “correcting my view” is citing the I would also Other than those two points, I have nothing to disagree with in your post. MC