Pope Benedict XVI, Julian Assange, and John Galliano’s Jewish news

When Pope Benedict, WikiLeaks’ Julian Assange and designer John Galliano are all on the front page at the same time, … Continued

When Pope Benedict, WikiLeaks’ Julian Assange and designer John Galliano are all on the front page at the same time, and all for remarks about Jews, people should take notice. Why? Because the three stories all speak to a variety of fears and insecurities among Jews which are paralleled by a variety of unresolved resentments which are still apparently held by many influential non-Jews.


Pope Benedict XVI leaves after delivering his weekly Angelus blessing to the crowd gathered below in St. Peter’s Square at the Vatican February 27, 2011. REUTERS/Giampiero Sposito

The Pope made the news because his newest book, the second volume of his “Jesus of Nazareth” exonerates the collective Jewish people for killing Jesus. While I appreciate both the rigor of both the theological and scriptural analysis upon which the pope bases himself, I find it odd that repeating what has been official Church doctrine since the 1965 document, Nostra Aetate, would make such headlines.

To be sure, as the spiritual leader of one billion Catholics, what the pope does could always be news. But in actuality, not all papal teaching makes the headlines and certainly one wonders why this item should. While I appreciate that the desire to “seal for a new generation of Catholics,” the churches views on the matter, it seems that something more is going on.

Could it be that the pope chose to reiterate the Church’s rejection of Jewish guilt for the crucifixion, the media’s attention to this story, and the number of Jewish groups that are celebrating this news, all reflect that the matter is still not resolved in the minds of those affected? Could it be that the pope knows that there is far more Catholic-inspired anti-Semitism than the Church would like to admit? Could it be that Jews are far less secure in our relations with the Church and its members than we often say we are?

Were these still not such sensitive issues, I cannot imagine that any of this would be a big deal. The seeming fragility of Jewish-Catholic relations, relations in which the utterance of a single priest or the work of a particular Catholic actor-director such as Mel Gibson, appear to threaten the very relationship itself, all attest to the remaining fears, suspicions and resentments which exist in people’s hearts and minds, if not in the official positions of either the Jewish or the Catholic communities.

Likewise neither the obnoxious and hateful views expressed by John Galliano, nor the bizarre anti-Semitic ranting of Julian Assange actually threaten the Jewish people. So why are they news? Again the fame of the speakers accounts for some, but not all of the intense coverage they are getting.


In this Jan. 21, 2011 file photo, British fashion designer John Galliano appears at the end of his men’s fall-winter 2011/2012 fashion collection presented in Paris. (AP Photo/Jacques Brinon, File) (Jacques Brinon – AP)

Like the news generated by the pope’s latest book, both the Galliano story and the Assange episode reflect the public’s great sensitivity to anti-Semitism. They also show how apparently acceptable such views are among some members of the European cultural and intellectual elite. These examples show how far our world has yet to go to really address deep-seated anti-Semitism today.


WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange leaves Belmarsh Magistrates Court in London in February. (Andrew Winning)

In that sense, all of these are good stories. Each in their own way has the potential to push people who care about these issues to reflect on the fears and resentments that we may still carry inside. We can then decide to what extent we want such fears and resentments to define how we see the world and how we see each other. Admitting that we still carry them, will not destroy us, but failing to address them could. So, in that sense, I guess I am grateful not only to Pope Benedict, but to John Galliano and Julian Assange as well.

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  • nastycelt

    Jeeze Hirschfield, You missed some anti semites in your rant. What about all those self hating Jews in Israel and around the world? You know, The ones who disagree with another Jew’s view of things. Also no mention of all those Jews who simply detest all non Jews and blame them for everything bad that ever happened to them from cold coffee to a late friggen bus.

  • jameschirico

    You don’t blame today’s Catholics for the inquisition, same logic applies to the Jewish faith. The world may blame the neocons for Iraq but for the most part don’t blame Americans. When we do good works like saving the people of Haiti, the shining light that is America burns brightly.

  • eezmamata

    Why should we not blame today’s catholics for the inquisition? The same brain damage, the same insidious religious infection that supported the inquisition is still extant within the catholic mind today – within the christian mind today, within any religious mind.Some of the sayings people say have great truth behind them. Voltaire said he who can convince you to believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Steven Wienberg: “Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you’d have good people doing good things and evil people doing bad things, but for good people to do bad things, it takes religion.”These are true. If you believe in the ridiculous, absurd things religion demand you believe, then you are a danger to the future of humanity.Fortunately, large areas of the planet don’t believe your sht anymore. Let’s have some hope, some faith in our species, we’ll free ourselves from this primitive, barbaric nonsense before some rapture-loving christianist drops the bomb on some muslim fanatic country.

  • dicnor

    Anti-semitism articles get readership. Jews never miss such a piece. Good business. But the entire holocaust/anti-semitism,racism complex has become so boring.

  • ElliotSlatkin

    How can pope logically exonerate those who mainly were opposed by Jesus for FRACTIONAL RESERVE MONEY LENDING AND COMPOUND INTEREST, when that kind of system still operates today under the ANTI-FEDERATION unFEDERAL RESERVE ??? !!!!Pope should be ashamed of his lack of scholarship and political correctness as opposed to ACTUAL correctness.Neocons Khazars are the main architects of war in the last decade and previous century.

  • ElliotSlatkin

    what about hunting of palestinians by israeli criminal entity for organs according to blood types ??? !!!!

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    “The Pope made the news because his newest book, the second volume of his “Jesus of Nazareth” exonerates the collective Jewish people for killing Jesus”NIce. NOw the question is how much self-exoneration goes along with that. Im thinking, for example, of Vatican Bank, set up as a repository by St. Pius XII for nazi loot. The survivors of the 200 nazi priests, men who ran and owned an doperated concentration camps, fomented genocidal attacks against Serbia, Roma, JEWS, stole all that they had and deposited it in Vatican Bank, have asked that the loot be returned to them.The Vatican, whose Utashe clergy tortured Jews to death with their own hands, zealously guards the loot to this very day.It has been to court. MOst recently, the plaintiffs lost on appeal because the Catholic Courts of America ruled that the Vatican is a Sovereign Nation.Interestingly, the state of Italy isn’t buying the Vatican’s sovereign nation whine, and has made Vatican Bank pay out upwards of 550,000 since September for moneylaundering. That’s right–you got it. The Vatican’s Bank is the eighth largest money launderer in the world, ahead of the Bahamas and Lichtenstein. The Vatican also invests heavily in Lybian oil, etc.Skrew them and all antisemitic Catholics. It will be a cold day in hell before I forgive the Catholics for their ongoing virulent racism, the HOlocaaust, etc.Skrew them. Up theirs. Hard.

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    The Holy Roman Pedophile, Money-Laundering, Tax Exempt, and Sovereign Nation exonerates Wow, I’m touched.

  • Muddy_Buddy_2000

    Even in the Bible its only a subset of the Jewish leadership which has anything to do with the killing of Jesus. In reality, the Romans were killing alleged prophets by the hundreds before and after Jesus. The sole real Jewish leader refused to execute Jesus, and the Priests convinced a indifferent Roman leader to order the execution as only he could.BTW I am going back to blaming today’s Catholics for the many millions their church has killed over the years. At least I now blame the current Nazi Pope.

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    I don’t quite know how to inform the now jobless Galliano, but his bff HItler did not have a fondness for gays, neither for persons with “Negroid features,” the latter being the result of his viewing Blacks as one rung up the evolutionary ladder from apes, I think.I qualify because some nazi anthropologists placed blacks on the same level. To express his displeasure the man whom Galliano says he “loved” placed gays out of sight in concentration camps. I’m wondering if Pope Benedict will now canonize Charlie Sheen (Emilio Estevez–confirmation name may or may not be Ambirose), John Galliano, and Assange.I know they’re not dead but their souls are as dead as those of Pius XII, surely.

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    BTW I am going back to blaming today’s Catholics for the many millions their church has killed over the years. At least I now blame the current Nazi Pope.Posted by: Muddy_Buddy_2000 |What can you expect of a people who worship a corpse on a stick, install cannibalism in their service, and pray to statues?

  • WmarkW

    “Eliot Slatkin” is the real name of one “Mark” something or other, a bona fide member of StormFront, who was banned, after years, of posting antisemitic filth on WaPo blogs and abroad, banned from every respectable venue, not merely or even principally, because he is antisemitic, but because he is psychotic.I’m not Eliot Slatkin, have never belonged or posted to Stormfront, and am using the same screen name since 2007.Agree or disagree with me, I do participate in discussions in the manner intended.

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    On Nazi Mark, meant to write==”Elliot Slatkin” is a FAKE name of one “Mark” something or other, a bona fide member of StormFront

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    WWmarkW, No, Mark, I wasn’t thinking of you. Mark is not an uncommon name. Farnaz

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    WMarkW,”Elliot Slatkin,” Catholic Nazi Stormtrooper, has gotten back onto WaPo threads after a long hiatus, stemming from his being banned. The ban, unlike that of CCNL1/Yeal1, etc., was complete. He could not post on WaPo.Or on any other respectable venue. His posts were more farfetched than those of Pakistani nazis who say the Taliban are Israelis. They were more than the usual psychotic antisemitism.Last week, some Jews began writing against Muslim and Catholic antisemitism (ironic since there you have two groups that truly hate one another united only in their hatred of Jews). MOst took a tepid approach, some like Hirschfield were apologetic. Others, like Melissa Rogers, R. David Wolpe, were very much in your face.Rogers, in your face, as in Drop Dead. My style. So “Elliot Slatkin,” aka Mark, aka Catholic Nazi, signed in using another moniker.I must say it took me a good ten minutes to identify him.

  • Jonesey83

    Whilst I can never condone anti-Semitism, it does seem a bit extreme to me that John Galliano has to stand trial over comments he made in private, and could go to jail or face large fines. I have covered this in more detail in my blog at

  • areyousaying

    Further proof Abraham never taught his children to play well and Jews and Catholics who enjoy their common Muslim enemies are no different.

  • Michael_131

    Inquisitive Christians should believe Christ’s life could have only been taken by God, in place of true sinners. I know this is very preachy, but vague and topical articles like this tend to serve no good purpose. I think the *real* reason this conversation continues is a poor definition of “Jew.” Someone might mean AIPAC, or a Jewish neighborhood, or the Israeli army, or Zionists, or victims in the Holocaust, or Jews in the media, or someone they met on the street. Critics should clearly indicated what they object to, and not assume whatever it is is “Jewish.” Likewise, whichever subgroup is being criticized can cry “anti-Semitic” to silence and attack the ethos of the critic, covering any genuine grievances.

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    Natalie Portman is twenty-nine, Rabbi. TWENTY-NINE.She is a Harvard graduate, who partially interrupted her career to complete Harvard in four years: “I’d rather be smart than an actress.” (She’s Jewish–What would one expect.)She stuck it to the Christians at Harvard re Israel, loud and clear, has publicly stated that all things considered she’d rather be in Jerusalem.Frankly, I had no idea who she was until my ten-year-old daughter, Az, took an interest in her. Az is amazingly indifferent to celebrity. She’s a bookish, athletic geenyoss, who has had to deal with antisemitic violence. She came across an article Portman wrote a few years ago, and showed it to me. Az rarely discusses her intellectual life with us, so I was anxious to read it. I was very impressed. Literate, staunchly proud of her identity, etc.So, I googled Portman. I confess I was shocked, since I’d imagined her far older and she was one of the most beautiful women I had ever seen. And, rabbi, I come from a family of raving beauties. Too that, Az was indifferent.I had to drag her to see Black Swan. She just wants to hear Portman speak and write about Jewish identity. And she will, rabbi, more and more.

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    Critics should clearly indicated what they object to, and not assume whatever it is is “Jewish.”Posted by: Michael_131 | March 2, 2011 10:02 PMGood point. Let me explain about what I object to when I use the word “Catholic.”!. They killed Jesus ChristLet me know….

  • Michael_131

    Obviously no one should do these things, particularly by those who claim to love fellow humans. Hypocrisy is terrible. But I have a challenge, could anyone identifying themselves as “Catholic” be charged and found guilty of this entire list? No. Tragically, some might, but not anyone in general. The point is to end those wrongdoings, not to eradicate the “Catholic” identity, or any other religious identity.

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    Obviously no one should do these things, particularly by those who claim to love fellow humans. Hypocrisy is terrible. But I have a challenge, could anyone identifying themselves as “Catholic” be charged and found guilty of this entire list? No. Tragically, some might, but not anyone in general. The point is to end those wrongdoings, not to eradicate the “Catholic” identity, or any other religious identity.Posted by: Michael_131 | March 2, 2011 10:44 PMI’d suggest you revisit your post, think long and hard, hard and long, and then get back to me.Perhaps, then, my post will become more comprehensible to you. Actually, I think it might.Farnaz

  • blasmaic

    European anti-semitism is really frightening stuff.

  • Phillymike1

    Rabbi, is the fragility of the Catholic-Jewish relationship entirely the fault of Catholics. Are Jewish people simply victims? Are there any anti -Catholic or anti-Christian feelings in the Jewish Community that need to be addressed?

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    Rabbi, is the fragility of the Catholic-Jewish relationship entirely the fault of Catholics. Are Jewish people simply victims? Are there any anti -Catholic or anti-Christian feelings in the Jewish Community that need to be addressed?Posted by: Phillymike1 | March 2, 2011 11:51 PMIt is this sort of disingenuous failure to take responsibility that so enrages so many of us. It is the equivalent of whites demanding a “fair playing field” with blacks during the Shirley Sherod fiasco. AS IF!What has changed is that a new “generation” of thought has arisen within our very diverse community. One sees it in rabbis such as David Wolpe and in more direct and outspoken lay Jews such as Natalie Portman and the journalist Melissa Rogers.In a sense it is not that new. Art Buchwald, although before my time in America, was a genius at cross-religious dialogue, so to speak.I’m thinking of framing his column on the “Nostra Ate.”Judaism proper maintains that HaShem has a covenant with all peoples, including Catholic people, obviously.However, it seems to this Jew that Catholic people do not honor that covenant in so far as anti-Jewish racism is concerned.In the past two thousand years, we have tried everything.It is a new day. Hope you’re reading, Art Buchwald.

  • robertjames1

    I was in Israel 15 years ago. I was struck by the animosity and contempt that many Jewish people directed towards those Arabs living in Israel and those living in the Middle East.I saw the terrible living conditions that some Israeli-Arabs suffered and how government money was directed towards Jewish citizens.I was outraged when I saw soldiers shoving and pushing Arabs. It was thuggery.When I consider how Israel treats every Palestinian as being responsible for the rockets that are sent from the Gaza to Israel I think that this Israeli approach is cruel. I see this as a calculated strategy to demoralise Palestinians and to force them to migrate to other countries.The illegal taking of Palestinian land often starts with thugs from Israel bashing Palestinian landholders and using this terror tactic to force them off their land. They are protected by soldiers. That is repugnant to me.I regard the claims that Jews are victims because they were forced from the Palestine 2000 years ago as silly. Apparently, the idea that some Jews decided to seek their fortunes elsewhere has no validity. Today, many Jews choose to live in the US, Canada, Australia and other places just as other ethnic and religious groups do.I am aware that Jews have been treated badly in the many communities in which they have lived over the last 2000 years and for that I am sorry but today their nation is abusive, mean-spirited and cruel.Poor behaviour by the people of any country will lead to their condemnation and I want Israel to change or fall.

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    Rabbi.A word about this blogger:Posted by: robertjames1 | March 3, 2011 12:21 AMMoreover, he will always switch the issue, like so many of his Catholic co-religionists, so that he can get his Catholic racist self off the racist hook. (It doesn’t work though on account of the ready visibility of his morally impoverished Catholic self.)Second, although he is a card-carrying Roman Catholic, he has posted his disbelief of the Bible when it comes to Jews.His antisemitism has been noted throughout WaPo, by yours truly, among many others. He is a self-admitted antisemite, however, which, I suppose, distinguishes him from his many whining co-religionists, who protest when their racism results in its being pointed out to them.Like his many Catholic racist co-religionists, we can only hope that hisRacists are racists, and on earth they do not belong.

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    There is something about RobertJames1 that is truly cancerous.

  • Phillymike1

    My question was for the Rabbi, I already know you are a bigot.

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    Oh, and PhillyMike1? Charlie Sheen is Jewish, as is John Galliano, and Assange.

  • Phillymike1

    Okay you are right, good luck with your anger management class.

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    Okay you are right, good luck with your anger management class.Posted by: Phillymike1 | March 3, 2011 1:23 AMIt surely isn’t doing Catholic people any good.

  • Phillymike1

    Nice try, you have already answered my initial question, thanks.

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    Nice try, you have already answered my initial question, thanks.Posted by: Phillymike1 | March 3, 2011 1:39 AMI have not “tried,” since my replies required no effort.And you have not answered my questions. Why not deal with the antisemitism directly? Is it doing Catholic people any good?Does it do you any good to hold passion plays in which congregants dress up “like Jews” and yell “kill him, kill him”? Where I teach, this is one of many reasons students give for having left the church. That, at least, is encouraging.Does it do you any good to hold pageants with grotesque figures designated “the Jew” as is done in many RCCs in Europe, the Carribbean, and South America?How did rendering my then seven-year-old unconscious and bloody benefit you?Good luck with that racist psychosis thing.

  • Phillymike1

    Very good thanks again I should have known you were a teacher you are so knowledgable.Good luck and good night.

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    Very good thanks again I should have known you were a teacher you are so knowledgable.Good luck and good night.Posted by: Phillymike1 | March 3, 2011 2:18 AMDon’t bother to tell me. By your words, we shall know you.

  • robertjames1

    I have just read all of the blogs. Farnaz2Mansouri21 has posted more than I can count. One thing is clear and that is he is very bigoted against Catholics.Farnaz2Mansouri21, it is time that you stopped being so vicious and dishonest. You are so unhinged that you make up your facts. You are living in a world of fiction.

  • Mary_Cunningham

    Hello Robert,You should not engage with Farnaz2 Mansouri21 (a she btw). You are living with cancer, and please God, you will live for many more years. But even if no, you should not fill your hours corresponding with her. Firstly, she hates Catholics. Secondly, she usually writes falsehoods. Thirdly–OK I know this sounds weird–exposure to her is bad for you spiritually. All her frenzy and tumult is inspired by hatred. Her fury seems demonic.Whilst her anger is primarily directed towards Catholics she also shows animosity towards Muslims. To wit:” Azisk,——-Like you, I am a Catholic. In the past I might have responded to Rabbi Hershfield’s points but I long gave up on such attempts. I trained as an economist and therein is Gresham’s law of debasement or “bad money drives out good”. You could say bad behaviour drives out good on the blogs, but Farnaz’s frenzied attacks are more than bad behaviour, in my candid opinion.PS This is a Jesuit meditative site that I think you might like. It is based in the UK so the speakers have English, Irish, Scots & Welsh accents but you should have no difficulty understanding. For me, the Irish accents are the most beautiful but I would say that, as I was born there.

  • Phillymike1

    Thank you both for your posts, I wasn’t sure who or what I was up against other than it was vile. Not really worth any further comment or discussion. All the best. Mike

  • areyousaying

    Farnaz racist? How dare you? Don’t you know if you say anything about her or Israel, you’re a white male Christian anti-Semitic pig? And if you are a Lutheran, which I denounced as a teenager but she insists (like some two bit teabagger lying Obama is a Muslim) I still am, you are a Nazi as well.No racism here, no sirreeee”Jews are smarter than you. Much, much smarter. Not only morally superior than YOU, but smarter.Posted by: Farnaz2Mansouri21″

  • areyousaying

    Robert, I agree with Mary Cunningham. Corresponding with Farnaz will only aggravate your cancer. Watch comedy movies instead. Laughter is much more helpful than racism. Your natural state is wellness. Cancer is not a part of your natural state or you. May it be gone from you soon.

  • areyousaying

    Rabbi, is the fragility of the Catholic-Jewish relationship entirely the fault of Catholics. Are Jewish people simply victims? Are there any anti -Catholic or anti-Christian feelings in the Jewish Community that need to be addressed?Posted by: Phillymike1 How dare you ask such an anti-Semitic question? Jews are always the victim and never at fault, less alone racist.

  • analyst72

    Galliano did not make ant-semitic remarks. He made anti-jewish remarks.

  • wesatch

    When will we be able to stop suffering the sins of the past? Every racial and religious group in the world has suffered throughout history. But always, always certain ones continue to occupy the feel bad for us space.Immigrants brought to America for cheap labor, Native Americans, Africans, Japanese in Manchuria, Catholics hated in the U.S. by the protestant political machine. Slaughter and genocide throughout ancient and recent times.Biblical histories of Jews wiping out civilizations? Forgot that?The Jews do not have an exclusive on pity. Enough is enough. Time to move on.

  • usapdx

    How many knew of this case at it’s time and how many where at the trial? Did CHRIST want Judas to turn HIM in? Why was the Gosple of Judas pulled like other books of the gosple? If Judas did not turn in CHRIST, where would Christianity be today? Bear in mind when, where, and who wrote the Gosples as well why, where, who and when the bible was made. Also note why the bible was only in Latin until the REFORMATION. What is the popes goal on his new book?

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    Galliano did not make ant-semitic remarks. He made anti-jewish remarks.Posted by: analyst72 | March 3, 2011 9:34 AMPrior to this, the term referred to a group of languages which were known as “semitic,” just as “aryan” referred to a different group of languages. Marr, of course, used aryan to refer to the superior (LOL) Germanic peoples. Thus Catholic Wilhelm Marr gave Catholic Nazi Hitler and his co-Catholic Nazis a vocabulary.Since there never was nor will there ever be an entity “semite” except in the minds of racists, we JEWS now spell it “antisemite.”I realize this may all be too complicated for bigot yu, but do use google for Marr.And do try to shove it into your head avec pea brain.

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    When will we be able to stop suffering the sins of the past? Every racial and religious group in the world has suffered throughout history. But always, always certain ones continue to occupy the feel bad for us space.Immigrants brought to America for cheap labor, Native Americans, Africans, Japanese in Manchuria, Catholics hated in the U.S. by the protestant political machine. Slaughter and genocide throughout ancient and recent times.Biblical histories of Jews wiping out civilizations? Forgot that?The Jews do not have an exclusive on pity. Enough is enough. Time to move on.Posted by: wesatch | March 3, 2011 10:16 AMHow’s about this? Let’s have the Christians/Catholics get a life, shut their idolatrous, foul faces, and we Jews will have nothing to complain about.SEE? As in SHUT it, and no problem for your christian self.

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    How many knew of this case at it’s time and how many where at the trial? Did CHRIST want Judas to turn HIM in? Why was the Gosple of Judas pulled like other books of the gosple? If Judas did not turn in CHRIST, where would Christianity be today? Bear in mind when, where, and who wrote the Gosples as well why, where, who and when the bible was made. Also note why the bible was only in Latin until the REFORMATION. What is the popes goal on his new book?Posted by: usapdx | March 3, 2011 10:47 AMDiscuss all you’d like. But I don’t see the relevance to this thread.

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    Why blame anyone, Hirschfeld? Is not Obama doing your AIPAC bidding in Iraq and Afghanistan. Would he deserved the peace prize more if he nuked Iran for you? Or is it unfathomable to you that a “cushan” could receive such recognition? This article was unnecessary and reveals much about your bigotry and that of your people as well.Posted by: coloradodog | October 10, 2009 8:41 AMThe occasion for this one was R. Hirchfield’s questioning the Nobel Committee’s decision to award Obama the Nobel PRize. It had nothing to do with religion per or to wars, etc., but hear it is.At the same time R. Hirschfield’s essay appeared, Rev. Michael Kessler opposed the award in much stronger terms, arguing that Obama should have refused it.And from the multi-monikered skitzy bigot Areyousaying? Not a word.He is, of course, one of “God’s people,” a Lutheran (Google “The Jews and Their LIes” by Martin Luther), and we know well how Hitler used Lutheran writings.These texts were exported to the MIddle East and are largely responsible for what many Jews have suffered there. Compare Areyousaying’s post above to Azisk’s below.On the other hand, Areyousaying is an equal opportunity hater. He hates Catholics almost as much as Luther came to. Not for the same reasons as Muslims like Azisk do, but he hates.We hope, as we hope for Carlos Estevez, that he avails himself of inpatient care before it is too late.Hundreds more racist AReyousaying posts available on request.Get help, dude.Posted by: Farnaz2Mansouri21 | February 28, 2011 11:22 PMFarnaz2Mansouri21: soon to be reincarnated again as Farnaz3Mansouri22Posted by: areyousaying | February 28, 2011 11:09 PMThis man will post endlessly in defense of Jews, until we defend ourselves. He is the great white hero: Tarzan.Unfortunately for him, his posts speak for themselves. Unlike him, I post his missives in context. He, on the other hand, like the true bigot he is, posts mine completely out of context, so that their defensive nature is unclear.I should add, however, that his anti-Catholic rants are as miserable almost as his antisemitic.He has posted hundreds, if not thousands of wretched comments such as this to this rabbi and others.On the other hand, he obviously has nothing better to do than obsess about Jews and me, in particular, poor thing.Ah, well, if it gives you something to do, carry on.

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    And here is Fidei Defensor, MaryCunningham, who posted on R. Hirschfield’s last thread that she would not return, a promise she has made for four years, since no one wants her here.She was very much expected now, however. She can never speak out about antisemitism, such as that of Galliano, Assange, Sheen, because she is antisemitism.Alone among Catholics on this blog, btw., this piece of work defended the RCC’s world wide child rape. Alone. Among Catholics. Postings available on request.

  • hebe1

    I’m not really sure what the point of this article IS.As long as the Jewish people believe they are the only chosen ones of god, as long as the Christians believe that they are the only ones going to heaven, and as long as the Muslims believe they are the only right religion, we will always have anti-isms.Stop condemning others. If you do that long enough, people might stop condemning your beliefs as well.

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    BTW, for MaryCunningham, Fiedei Defensor, I said that Robert/James1 has cancerous attributes, not that he has cancer. There is a difference. Take a reading class, during your hoped for absence. Ugh.

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    What fascinates most is the paucity of Catholics/Christians speaking out against the antisemitism of Galliano, Assange, Sheen, etc. At the same time, people like RobertJames1, MaryCunningham, AReyousaying, et al, gang up on one person who chooses to fight back.That’s how the antisemites do–they take out of context–gang up. Often on defenseless children like my daughter.But I am not she, and she is not the seven-year-old these racists left bloody and unconscious in the street.I’m expecting a few other of the usual suspects. Morally impoverished, all. But they won’t stop us. It’s been two thousand years, and here we are.And here we shall always be.

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    I’m not really sure what the point of this article IS.As long as the Jewish people believe they are the only chosen ones of god, as long as the Christians believe that they are the only ones going to heaven, and as long as the Muslims believe they are the only right religion, we will always have anti-isms.Stop condemning others. If you do that long enough, people might stop condemning your beliefs as well.Posted by: hebe1 | March 3, 2011 11:52 AM

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    I’m not really sure what the point of this article IS.As long as the Jewish people believe they are the only chosen ones of god, as long as the Christians believe that they are the only ones going to heaven, and as long as the Muslims believe they are the only right religion, we will always have anti-isms.Stop condemning others. If you do that long enough, people might stop condemning your beliefs as well.Posted by: hebe1 | March 3, 2011 11:52 AM

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    R. HIRSCHFIELD,I congratulate you on this essay. I want to tell you that a link to it just went out to more than twenty thousand people. This piece and thread need to be read. Badly.Thanks again.Farnaz

  • rayd11

    I oppose all forms of bigotry, including anti-Semitism. Unfortunately, some people who criticize Israel’s harsh and brutal policies towards Palestinians are often called anti-Semitic. This is a misuse of the word.

  • areyousaying

    Farnaz: “Hundreds more racist AReyousaying posts available on request.”Hundreds? Let’s see them or are you lying like denying the fact I have said many times I denounced Lutheranism as a teen (partly because of their WWII complicity which I agree with you on).I never said anything about silencing Jews, you problem with me is that I think Israel has too much power in America. How is that anti-Semitic?How can I say it any clearer? You think like KKKarl Rove you can repeat your lies long enough and others will believe them like you delusionally do.Have you been tested for peri-menopause?If you are a shining example of Judaism, how embarrassed the rest of your people must be.

  • bonniema

    Mr. Hirschfield’s important questions deserve more than the starchy orthodoxy of his solutions. He asks why the Pope’s rejection of collective Jewish responsibility for Jesus’ murder receives more media attention than most Catholic-related stories, without considering stories that generate comparable interest. A quick query of Catholic-related articles in the NY Times suggests relatively little interest in doctrinal pronouncements, disaster relief efforts, global health care services in destitute areas, and Catholic schools or hospitals serving our inner-cities (except when they close). Topics often soaked in newsprint ink? Sexual abuse, condoms, strained Vatican relations with Israel and Muslim nations, and, yes, anti-Semitism. In short, Church successes and community achievement are largely overlooked in a richly detailed media portrait of a flawed, ailing institution. In light of this skew, the question about whether it reflects mainstream media bias against the Catholic church or a simpler (and likelier) bias favoring the pc hot-button issue du jour becomes less important than the recognition of its consequence, i.e., increased ambivalence/animosity toward the Catholic church in a country where anti-Catholicism was deeply rooted not many decades ago (and in some places remains so today).This exacerbation of longstanding cultural tension requires that any meaningful analysis plumb the bias on all sides of issues. Unfortunately Mr. Hirschfield fails this requirement. “Could it be,” he says, “that the pope knows that there is far more Catholic-inspired anti-Semitism than the Church would like to admit? Could it be that Jews are far less secure in our relations with the Church and its members than we often say we are?” Catholics would seem to carry the burden of prejudice and hate, while Jews, the burden of insufficient self-confidence. Highly artful, but very asymmetric. Whatever the historic cause of ethnic or religious tension (and it often varies according to cultural narrative), opposing sides tend to succumb quickly to bias and prejudice. Insecurity often breeds contempt and Jews feeling “less secure” with Catholics, might well be as fiercely anti-Catholic, as their Catholic counterparts are anti-Semitic. When a discussion for whatever reason does not admit and embrace these obvious possibilities, the debate itself becomes an exercise in the reinforcement of institutionalized bias and discrimination. Bias needs to be recognized whether in the predominantly Catholic, Protestant, Muslim or Jewish community and workplace. A more profitable conversation might ensue if American Catholics today were much more mindful of the pain caused the Jewish people by the historic actions of their Church, and American Jews more sensitive to the fact that American Catholics, who were themselves innocent of the terrible crimes of the Holocaust,have contributed billions of hard-earned dollars to ensure the future and prosperity of the Jewish homeland.

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    Catholic antisemitism is far from over. It is a reality every day in every country in which there is a sizable Catholic population, whether or not there are any Jews. And then their was the CAtholics’/Christians’ Holocaust.The horrors the RCC utashe Clergy perpetrated, their looting, the refusal of Vatican Bank to settle is unconscionable.Like most Jews, the Catholics’ Nostra Ate is of no consequence to me. That the Catholics’ killed their “God” and now worship him is an affair of theirs.Leave us alone.

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    Areyousaying:Have you been tested for peri-menopause?

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    R. HIRSCHFIELD,My email is verging on crashing. I sent out a link to your blog–it went to twenty-three thousand people. A lot of disbelief at this thread….And there has been much worse. I should have done something like this a long time ago, I think.

  • linguine33

    What a lot of crapola. For 2,000 years, the popes, saints and the rest of the gang, who have a dedicated line to god, have been saying the Jews killed Jesus. Evidently god never told them otherwise.

  • amos3_3

    The Pope contradicts the Holy Bible to his own peril:”Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin. And from thenceforth Pilate sought to release him: but the Jews cried out, saying, If thou let this man go, thou art not Caesar’s friend: whosoever maketh himself a king speaketh against Caesar. When Pilate therefore heard that saying, he brought Jesus forth, and sat down in the judgment seat in a place that is called the Pavement, but in the Hebrew, Gabbatha. And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King! But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar.” John 19:11-15

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    The Pope contradicts the Holy Bible to his own peril:”Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin. And from thenceforth Pilate sought to release him: but the Jews cried out, saying, If thou let this man go, thou art not Caesar’s friend: whosoever maketh himself a king speaketh against Caesar. When Pilate therefore heard that saying, he brought Jesus forth, and sat down in the judgment seat in a place that is called the Pavement, but in the Hebrew, Gabbatha. And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King! But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar.” John 19:11-15Posted by: amos3_3 | March 3, 2011Aftermath: Genocide for two thousand years, cannibalizing the world, etc.Rapes their young.Sick “religion,” and very, very sick people.

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    Sick, I mean really, sick and perverse. With “guidance” like that, however, what can one expect, but moral depravity. Forever.

  • thebobbob

    As a devout Pastafarian, I can’t help but be saddened by the derangement caused by the embrace of these ancient fantasies and delusions.The Flying Spaghetti Monster offers everyone a place at His Holy Table. The shape of the noodle doesn’t matter. The sauce you choose doesn’t matter. Sit! Eat! Embrace His Noodly Appendage!rAMEN!

  • reuvenir1

    To all my dear Christians friends, I am frankly saying – time arrives, after two thousand years, the following is all about:Christianity began as a Jewish sect in the mid-1st century. Originating in the eastern Mediterranean coast of the Middle East (modern Israel and Palestine), it quickly spread to Syria, Mesopotamia, Asia Minor and Egypt, it grew in size and influence over a few decades, and by the 4th century had become the dominant religion within the Roman Empire. Over the centuries, the issue of responsibility for Jesus’ death has served as a basis for the blanket persecution of Jews — a notion the pope repudiates.”After all, John himself was ethnically a Jew, as were Jesus and all his followers,” the pope writes. “The entire early Christian community was made up of Jews. In John’s Gospel this word has a precise and clearly defined meaning: he is referring to the Temple aristocracy”Eventually, Jesus’ criticism was the reason for being rejected by the Temple leaders (aristocracy). But nothing new under the sun – money was and yet being the main reason for superpower leaders and corruption in the holy places – synagogues, churches and mosques.Today, unfortunately, most money for Islamic terror comes through mosques.

  • areyousaying

    AT the request of AReyousaying/coloradoDog, I will post the blogger’s antisemitic comments, one per day, for as long as OnFaith survives. Posted by: Farnaz2Mansouri21 So, since you said there are “hundreds” maybe “thousands” where’s your thought for today?Man sour i – what a perfect name for a misandrist.

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    “Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin. And from thenceforth Pilate sought to release him: but the Jews cried out, saying, If thou let this man go, thou art not Caesar’s friend: whosoever maketh himself a king speaketh against Caesar. When Pilate therefore heard that saying, he brought Jesus forth, and sat down in the judgment seat in a place that is called the Pavement, but in the Hebrew, Gabbatha. And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King! But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar.” John 19:11-15Posted by: amos3_3 | March 3, 2011Aftermath: Genocide for two thousand years, cannibalizing the world, etc.Rapes their young.Sick “religion,” and very, very sick people.Sick, and vile.

  • ThomasBaum

    Farnaz2Mansouri21 Have you ever noticed the “similarities” between your writings on various posts and those of “anti-Semitism”?They, they, they, kind of sums it up, doesn’t it?Take care, be ready.Sincerely, Thomas Paul Moses Baum.

  • areyousaying

    The lying Farnaz OF ALL PEOPLE telling Thomas Paul Moses Baum to “…be honest”.

  • YEAL9

    Saving over three billion lost souls:1.5 billion lost Muslim souls:There never was and never will be any angels i.e. no Gabriel, no IslamTwo billion lost Christian souls:There was and never will be any bodily resurrections i.e. No Easter, no Christianity15.5 million lost souls of the Orthodox followers of Judaism:As per Rabbi Wolpe, Abraham and Moses never existed.

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    “Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin. And from thenceforth Pilate sought to release him: but the Jews cried out, saying, If thou let this man go, thou art not Caesar’s friend: whosoever maketh himself a king speaketh against Caesar. When Pilate therefore heard that saying, he brought Jesus forth, and sat down in the judgment seat in a place that is called the Pavement, but in the Hebrew, Gabbatha. And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King! But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar.” John 19:11-15Posted by: amos3_3 | March 3, 2011Aftermath: Genocide for two thousand years, cannibalizing the world, etc.Rapes their young.Sick “religion,” and very, very sick people.Sick, and vile.

  • ITs-TIME

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  • ITs-TIME

    GET-OUT-NOW DICTATOR “Bibi” & Crony’s!”D E A T H — to — L I K U D – P A R T Y too!”Hear O’Israel, of the “3rd-TEMPLE” & Neighbors. RISE-UP! RISE-UP O’ S A B R A i t e Nation, Shout, “GET-OUT GET-OUT NOW” Forever-Out!”O’ Evil Benjamin “Bibi” Netanyahu & Criminals!”D E A T H — to — L I K U D – P A R T Y NOW!”D O W N — With — L I K U D – P A R T Y NOW!V░O░T░E Smart: ░T░Z░i░P░I░░L░i░V░N░I░the K░A░D░I░M░A░ Party FOREVER-SALAM!”Think Globally 1st, Then Act Locally 2nd”

  • YEAL9

    See also Professor Gerd Ludemann’s review of the Pilate trial of Jesus in his book, Jesus After 2000 Years, p. 104, Mark 15: 1-20a. As with most of the pre-crucifixion story, Ludemann gives it a “unhistorical” rating.

  • areyousaying

    AT the request of AReyousaying/coloradoDog, I will post the blogger’s antisemitic comments, one per day, for as long as OnFaith survives.Posted by: Farnaz2Mansouri21So, since you said there are “hundreds” maybe “thousands” where’s your thought for today? …or are you LYING like when you claim I am Lutheran?

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    R. Hirschfield,As you probably know by now, Charlie Sheen was fired from 21/2 men, due to his numerous public outbursts in the aftermath of the cancelling of the show’s last four episodes.He managed to offend Pagans, as well as Jews, declaring himself “A warlock Vatican assassin,” and the Pagans were not quiet about their offense.I find it interesting that, unlike you, an Irish Catholic talk show host I listen to while working late at night and with whom I rarely agree, found Sheen’s remarks about Lorre antisemitic and uncacceptable.Admittedly, they were, like Juan Williams’, made on only one occasion, unlike Galliano’s, which were made on three. They were also less ignorant than Galliano’s since Hitler would have put his gay behind in a concentration camp. On the other hand, the full tape of Juan Williams’ remarks shows that he was speaking out AGAINST Islamophobia, but that bothered no one.Try to understand where I’m coming from, Rabbi. I do agree with you strongly that antisemitism cannot, will not, must not define us. In fact, it defines only the antisemites, since racism always says everything about the racists, nothing about the targets.Shalom, R. Hircshfield.Farnaz

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    “Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin. And from thenceforth Pilate sought to release him: but the Jews cried out, saying, If thou let this man go, thou art not Caesar’s friend: whosoever maketh himself a king speaketh against Caesar. When Pilate therefore heard that saying, he brought Jesus forth, and sat down in the judgment seat in a place that is called the Pavement, but in the Hebrew, Gabbatha. And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King! But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar.” John 19:11-15Posted by: amos3_3 | March 3, 2011Aftermath: Genocide for two thousand years, cannibalizing the world, etc.Rapes their young.Sick “religion,” and very, very sick people.Sick, and vile.

  • jameshallman
  • YEAL9

    You might want to Google, Bing and/or Yahoo, “Famous Jews” before making added comments.

  • ThomasBaum

    jameshallman You wrote, “The reason we see so much Anti-Semitism in the world is because of the historial facts surrounding Jewish collective behavior.”The simple reason that there is “so much Anti-Semitism” in the world is that:The Jews are the Chosen People, chosen and formed by God.It was thru the Jews that God became One of us, Jesus, God-Incarnate.satan is real.satan is a loser, a poor loser.See you all in the Kingdom.Take care, be ready.Sincerely, Thomas Paul Moses Baum.

  • Farnaz2Mansouri21

    “Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin. And from thenceforth Pilate sought to release him: but the Jews cried out, saying, If thou let this man go, thou art not Caesar’s friend: whosoever maketh himself a king speaketh against Caesar. When Pilate therefore heard that saying, he brought Jesus forth, and sat down in the judgment seat in a place that is called the Pavement, but in the Hebrew, Gabbatha. And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King! But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar.” John 19:11-15Posted by: amos3_3 | March 3, 2011Aftermath: Genocide for two thousand years, cannibalizing the world, etc.Rapes their young.Sick “religion,” and very, very sick people.Sick, and vile.

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