Beck sets religious tone for ‘Restoring Honor’ rally

By Elizabeth Tenety Glenn Beck kicked off his ‘Restoring Honor’ weekend Friday night with an event at the Kennedy Center … Continued

By Elizabeth Tenety

Glenn Beck kicked off his ‘Restoring Honor’ weekend Friday night with an event at the Kennedy Center that was more religious revival than political rally.

“We are 12 hours away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America,” Beck said, adding, “It has nothing to do with this city or politics. It has everything to do with God almighty.”

Beck, a converted Mormon, welcomed a host of Evangelical leaders, as well as one Catholic and one Jewish leader, to the stage at the center’s concert hall. The speakers were frequently interrupted by shouts of praise and ‘amen!’ by the audience, most of whom lined up Friday morning to obtain the free ticket.

Among the speakers were Evangelical minister David Barton and Gloria Copeland, Rep. Randy Forbes (R-VA), actor and activist Chuck Norris, and pastor John Hagee.

Beck set a spiritual tone for Saturday’s rally, saying “This is the beginning of the great awakening of America.” In an exchange with Barton, Beck elaborated, saying his mission was not to mix religion and politics, but to “teach in our churches the principles” that will inspire politics. “We cannot mix those two, but we must give voice to what God says we must do.”

Beck’s emphasis on the separation of church and state seemed at odds with the statements of several speakers. Barton insisted that “We don’t want our country to become secular” and Hagee prayed for America to overcome the “politically correct fog” and the idolatry of ‘pluralism.’ Norris paraphrased George Washington’s farewell address, quoting, “Providence has connected the permanent happiness of a nation with its virtue,” to insist that public morality cannot be maintained without religion. Copeland told the audience, “Our job this weekend is to raise up the shield of faith for America”

Despite many of the speakers’ political overtones, Beck used his address to emphasize the spiritual nature of his challenge to America.

“My message to you tonight is stand where He wants you to stand and trust in the Lord. If He tells you to do it, do it. If you can’t figure it out, He will. Just do it.”

The notion of using churches as a vehicle for oranizing social change is not new. Regardless of whether you agree or disagree with Beck’s message, is it fair to compare what Beck is calling for churches to do with the role churches played in the civil rights movement of the 1950s and 60s? Do you think Beck’s movement is political or spiritual?

Read quotes and context from Friday’s event at the Kennedy Center from On Faith’s liveblogging of the event.

About

Elizabeth Tenety Elizabeth Tenety is the former editor of On Faith, where she produced "Divine Impulses," On Faith’s video interview series. She studied Theology and Government at Georgetown University and received her master’s degree from Northwestern University’s Medill School of Journalism. A New York native, Elizabeth grew up in the home of Catholic news junkies where, somewhere in between watching the nightly news and participating in parish life, she learned to ponder both the superficial and the sacred.
  • dbm2

    It’s neither spiritual or political. Beck is a talk show host. As such, he has a major conflict of interests issue. To bill anything he does for anything other than ratings, attention, and the resulting money he makes from raising the rates on his advertisers, is ridiculous.

  • thebump

    QUERY0 posts: LOL. Sorry, that title indisputably belongs to Professor Oboobma, our self-anointed messiah.

  • My1Shkin

    Beck is to God as the Crusades were to Christianity. Your previous article about where the money went was entirely apt. How much did he make off this event that was promoted as a charity? Imagine Beck’s new idol, the brilliant and saintly Martin Luther King, Jr., charging $100,000 for his services at the Memphis garbage strike or the Montgomery ‘bus boycott. Am I just being nostalgic or have the democratic values of those days been stomped by a gang of fascist frauds?

  • rbren6234

    Beck is a loony and dangerous to this country.

  • shaiarra

    “When fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in the flag and waving a cross,” Sinclair LewisSAME SEXERS ARE MADE TO LIVE LIKE SLAVES (FINANCIALLY /SOCIALLY /EDUCATIONALLY) UNDER RELIGIOUSE OPPRESSION (Xtian Sharia Taliban )WHICH it Blocks THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK/ IRS/IMF/ US CORPORATION 28USC3002(15) DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY FROM COLLECTING $TAXES AND COMMERCIAL COMMERCE (U.C.C.) FROM US CITIZENS (SAME SEXERS)IT WERE THE ATHEIST/AGNOSTICS GROUPS AND DEIST (a.k.a. Radical Republicans)that press for Abolishment of Slavery, Women Suffrage Acts and Civil Rights to Protect Minorities,NOT the Religious They Mis-Used The Bible to Support Slavery and Anti-Women Suffrage Acts, ANTI-INTERACIAL MARRIAGES-BIRTHS and now Same Sex US CITIZENS Civility Rights,(Levi.& Deut.BOOKS which shows Women & Slaves thier Place religious Fought Tooth & Eye to OT Biblically Oppress others)Religion has US Citizens involved in Slave Trade AGAIN!@ALL XTIANS AND BLACKSGUESS WHAT……..YES THE CHURCH STARTED AND MADE $$$ ON THE SLAVE TRADE ( MORALS? )INVESTMENTS AND PROFITS IN THE SLAVE TRADE COMPANIES (DID “GOD” BLESS THIS TOO?”PASTE THIS IN GOOGLE SEARCH:( CHURCH INVOLVEMENT IN US AND EUROPE’S SLAVE TRADE )DO XTIANS BOMB CLINICS??? DO XTIANS SEND TERRORIST LETTERS TO THE US GOVERNMENT??? DO XTIANS ENCOURAGE ATTACKS ON SAME SEXERS??? DID THE CHURCH START SLAVERY IN THE US AND EUROPE??? DO XTIANS QUOTE FROM A BOOK (BIBLE) THAT ENDORCES GENOCIDE?/ SLAVERY AND CHILD MARRIAGES TO ADULTS??? POLYGAMY??? INCEST???

  • xjetjockey

    To the comments of Shaiarra who said “Since when did “Jesus” a(d)vocate death penalties???” Consider this. Jesus reaffirmed the capital statutes of God’s law. Not only the murderer (Rev. 13:10; 1 Tim. 1:8-9; Rom. 13:4), but even the one who curses a parent must be put to death (Ex. 21:17 and Lev. 20:9) just as God commanded. God’s commands to execute the one who strikes or curses a parent are the death penalty statutes that liberal Christians are the most embarrassed over. However, Christ was not at all embarrassed over His Fathers commands. Jesus repeated these commands without caveat or reservation.

  • mclainla

    Glenn’s message is BOTH political and spiritual. Trying to discredit him as some kind of narcissistic wacko or uneducated is foolish, disingenuous and petty. I am not a wholesale regular Beck “follower” but I have watched his program enough to know that he does his homework and on an almost nightly basis pleads for the audience watching the show to check out the facts for themselves and not simply take his opinion. I believe that Glenn is a sincere person who genuinely believes his message. Is there a fundamental shift from free market capitalism to democratic socialism afoot in America? Are there groups of people who are vehemently opposed to the to way of life we have enjoyed as Americans for the past 200 years because of a severe hate of everything ‘conservative’ (meaning “christian”) ? We all have the right to express our views, whatever the angle, and if you don’t like what he has to say, then don’t listen ! or better yet – DO listen and counter with fact based evidence of how he is wrong. Don’t take personal swipes at the guy – that just makes you sound just as ignorant as you are trying to paint him. Besides Jesus Christ, Ghandi and Mother Theresa were not ‘well educated’ people but they all had a profound impact on history.

  • MPersow

    We are witnessing the rise of a new fascism, led by Glenn Goebbels Beck. We cannot stand by as the German populace did in the 1920′s and 1930′s. Goebbels came after the Jews; Beck and his ilk are coming after Muslims. We need to face this menace head on and defeat it before it’s too late.

  • xjetjockey

    How anyone can turn “Restoring Honor”, and “turn to God” into Fascism is beyond absurd. That’s the type of far left hypocritical liberal attack that is commonplace, and one which the far left always accuses conservatives of employing.

  • GiveMeThat

    “Glenn Beck is barely high school educated.” I think that he would agree with you. But for a guy who barely is high school educated, he is darn smart and darn well educated. So called “open minded” liberals are stuffing their ears and crying, “wee, wee, wee.” It will be a great show. That is guaranteed!

  • jeff34345

    Beck is a lying self-promoter.I’m always shocked when religious people say they don’t want us to be a secular nation. If we weren’t a secular nation they wouldn’t have the right to practice their religion. They seen to always think their particular sect would be the state form of Christianity. For most of them that would not be the case.Whenever someone claims to speak for god, they’re lying. We don’t even know that any of man’s many gods exist. It’s a matter of personal faith, and should have nothing to do with government.

  • todd-beck

    ugh….getting sick now.

  • valerievelvet627

    Really,How can an individual who is as narcissistic and broken,who “faith jumps” and cannot accurately quote any text or doctrine of authenticity or common sense be taken seriously or given credence.GODS’ name has been taken in vein.Please pray for a balance to comfort all Gods’ children.

  • mishi69

    @MCLAINLA -Well, I seem to remember Jesus saying stuff about selling all your stuff and giving it to the poor, and how rich men would have a heck of a time entering Heaven. But since you’ve pointed out that Christianity, capitalism, and the GOP are one, I can only assume I skipped over the part where He said, “Blessed be he who amasses a private fortune by profiting from the labors of others.”Which verse is that, again?

  • mikhastur

    Contrary to Norris’ statement, “virtue” is hardly limited to the religious. And in a political context, it is often not a part of the calculus of religions that play politics. And “Providence” was the Deists’ code word to avoid saying “God” it is likely to have a myriad of meanings in the mouths of those employ it.

  • mishi69

    So when is Beck gonna say to the crowd, “I have converted to a faith whose founder has pointed out that all other Christian denominations are ‘abominations’?”

  • mikhastur

    Anyone pretending to speak for the will of God [that is any god, including the christian and mormon ones, however you sort that one out] who outright rejects the seeking of economic justice through assisting the poor should be ashamed of himself.That being said, it seems to me that in any religious context, claiming to speak for God is an enormous [and potentially blasphemous] pretension.

  • mikhastur

    Most striking is Hagee’s remarks equating belief in our civic virtue of pluralism with idolatry. Conservative Chrsitians are often harping on what is on our money to support inserting their god into politics and government. And yet he finds “e pluribus unum” to be idolatry? Can you say hypocrite? Either that or he’s not educated well enough to understand the phrase that most every US student has learned by 6th grade civics.

  • mishi69

    Founding Fathers on Christianity:”The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter.” – Thomas Jefferson”The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.” – John Adams”Lighthouses are more helpful than churches.” – Benjamin Franklin

  • garthasuarus

    Political or spiritual? How did you come up with those two choices?

  • MPersow

    XJet Jockey – if you believe what you wrote, then you are a fool.

  • Koom

    You have to more intelligent and more informed than Beck or Palin ( for instance ) to recognize and to know what blithering idiots and frauds they are and I’m sure what I just “said” went right over your heads Beck / Palin fans . mclainla, wow , just wow . Someone who seems to be a nice and sincere person needs to turn off Fox and Beck , seriously .

  • mikhastur

    mclainla >>>>Trying to discredit him as some kind of narcissistic wacko or uneducated is foolish, disingenuous and petty.not if you actually listen to him with a rational mind.mclainla >>>Besides Jesus Christ, Ghandi and Mother Theresa were not ‘well educated’ people but they all had a profound impact on history.and yet, I do not recall any of them saying anything remotely as boneheaded as Beck has said. With the possible exception of Mother Theresa’s intransigence against birth control in light of the poverty she saw that was, at least in part, caused by folks reproducing beyond their means to support the children they brought into this world.

  • joachim1

    I never really understood just how great a racist Beck is. That Limbaugh, Hanniit and some of the pseudo-news bimbettes are clearly racist, or at least highly bigoted, is clear, and so perhaps because of them, Beck had cover.But to attempt to disguise his racism under a cloak of religion is cynicism at its peak. The man has no regard for Americans and complete disregard for America. One only has to look at his audience to be disgusted.

  • MPersow

    The last time we mixed politics and religion, people were burned at the stake.

  • mikhastur

    GMT >>>>But for a guy who barely is high school educated, he is darn smart and darn well educated. Then why does he so often contradict himself? [to say nothing of the factual and logical errors he regularly makes?] These are all well documented by many journalistic sources. Of course a quick review of The Daily Show pieces where Beck either flatly contradicts or seriously undermines his previous positions on tape is, perhaps, the most accessible.

  • plaza04433

    Beck is a con man, a propagandist, and a Demagogue. He is the LDS equivelent of Elmer Gantry, and surrounds himself with people of similar ilk. He appeals to people who have almost no education, a weak grasp on reality and no grasp on logic. The ‘Restoring Honor’show is mainly about Beck’s own self promotion and ratings, not to mention his $32 million salary. ‘Politics’ is just a tool in service of his self serving ends.As with Elmer Gantry, it has nothing at all to do anything spiritual.

  • HilaryLo

    What about people who don’t believe in God? Do we still get to have honor too?

  • urbananchorite

    As a Christian lawyer who understand the importance of separating church and state, I can only pray that Glenn Beck has his Lonesome Rhodes moment as soon as possible.

  • Koom

    mclainla , the Republicans want to do away with social security , either that or give the social security money to their wealthy friends so they can gamble with it at the Wall Street casino , they also wanted to cut off unemployment for those who lost their jobs , there are at least six people looking for every one job available , realistically it’s much much worse than that , yet all unemployed in this economy are losers , bums and lazy according to Beck , Limbaugh and the Republicans . The Democrats want to strengthen social security for the elderly , many who have and will have nothing else to count on / survive on , they also want to help out the unemployed in this economy and they want every one to be able to have health care . Now who is more Christ like ? Who is more Christian ? Also the Republicans had full control of the government under Bush , it was for all practical purposes a dictatorship for six of eight years yet what did they do or try to do in regards to the big Christian issues , abortion and gay marriage ? Answer : Zero , nothing .They play the Christians for their votes , it’s a game , politics , they are anything but the Christian family values people . For Christians to think that Republicans are Christian ,are thee Christian party and that Democrats are against Christians , anti Christian or are not Christian is a big mistake , you took the bait and bought the lie . Watch and observe what they do , not just what they say . Because you are a Democrat that does not mean that you are automatically for gay marriage or for abortion on demand either , not at all .

  • scrushmaster

    I was a tea party member until it got taken over by the republican party and faux news. I saw them positioning to take Ron Paul’s movement away from him, they did this because they are a part of the same machine Obama and his ilk are from. Slide of hand trick guys don’t trust republican or dems IMHO.

  • mikhastur

    hil >>>What about people who don’t believe in God? Do we still get to have honor too?not if Beck and his cronies get to decide the matter.

  • lufrank1

    That’s all we need, an ignoramus like “Rev” Hagee who believes that ANYONE (whether child, Jew, whatever) who doesn’t accept Jesus as a personal Savior will burn in torment forever, and thinks dinosaurs were on Noah’s Ark, etc. firing up dumb voters!The Constitution specifies separation of Church from State, but both Civil Liberty politics and Tea Party politics have been and are continuously pushed in churches. Solution ??? Remove the tax-exemption status for ANY church, synagogue, etc. that ADVISES it’s congregation or parish to vote a particular way. IF they don’t personally avoid politics – they don’t deserve tax-free status (i.e. they aren’t abiding by the Constitution).

  • sandbar987

    mclainla, Jesus studied in the temple with the greatest Jewish scholars of his time, knew Greek and was able to write, all signs that he was a learned man, although of modest means. Mother Theresa studied with her order, and began her missionary work as a teacher. Ghandi was a lawyer. All of these tremendously courageous leaders (and yes, my main man J.C.) valued learning and study; you’d do well to follow their example rather than that of Glenn Beck, who mocks and disdains “book learnin.”

  • HumanSimpleton

    Beck’s movement?What movement?All I see a racist bigot pandering to a racist tea party which is more an organization hell-bent on social conservatism than anything else.Religion has always served as a tool for bigots over the ages, this is nothing new.Beck is simply the newest of the opportunists.

  • HumanSimpleton

    hil >>>What about people who don’t believe in God? Do we still get to have honor too?not if Beck and his cronies get to decide the matter.Beck and his cronies don’t. Last I checked, they were not elected to anything, although I must say that the Democrats and the Republicans do not seem to mind

  • BarbWire1

    If ONLY he had compromised on the date or place of his BECKOLUTION!

  • DocRock1

    From John Stewart the other day….”Glenn Beck is getting ready to have a movement”!LOL!

  • Goldeeloxx

    Why is martin luther king jr’s niece allowing herself to be used?

  • persiflage

    What Beck represents is the incremental dumbing down of America. The barbarians appear to be at the gate…..Then again, maybe it’s just another media-driven ‘entertainment event’ for the masses – they’re very popular. Glenn Beck, another bankable brand pre-packaged for disenchanted whities struck blind by Jesus….

  • mikhastur

    BW >>>If ONLY he had compromised on the date or place of his BECKOLUTION!compromise by moving his event to another date and/or place? oh no… then the terrorists would have won.

  • AdventurerVA

    If this were truly a religious unifying event, he would at have at least invited a Muslim Imam. As it is, the message is — we know who we are and who isn’t invited. It’s Elmer Gantry all over again.

  • mikhastur

    gold >>>Why is martin luther king jr’s niece allowing herself to be used?actually, in this case, I think the better question is why is MLK’s niece using her uncle’s legacy to further an agenda of which he would have thoroughly disapproved?

  • pjkiger1

    Glenn Beck claim to be fulfilling the goals of Martin Luther King Jr. proves that Beck knows almost nothing about King’s ideas. King’s vehement criticism of the American capitalist system and its inequities was the antithesis of Beck’s corporatist libertarianism. King advocated a public health care system that would be available to all, regardless of ability to pay–something that Beck bitterly opposes. King was an outspoken opponent of the Vietnam War, which stands in stark contrast to Beck’s cheerleading rallies in support of the invasion of Iraq. King advocated reparations for African-Americans to atone for the lasting harm done by slavery and segregation–harm that Beck chooses to ignore. The only reason he gets away with this misrepresentation is that our schools and media have sanitized Dr. King and redacted the controversial parts of his teachings.

  • beckfan

    I like GB because I believe he tells the truth and believes what he says, although he may be a bit paranoid with those conspiracy theories. I believe that the progressives think alike so it seems they are acting together.The people in this country need to understand the problems that collectivism and socialism have and will cause. Every failed socialistic policy leads to more such policies and this eventually leads to a totalitarian government. The prosperity that America has enjoyed has been due to our personal freedoms. Regulated health care, banking, business, energy, and most other progressive ideas will fail and reduce the standard of living for all Americans. Glenn Beck is a great voice for this message.I do not like his opinion that belief in God is the answer to the problems America is facing. If God gets you to seek and vote for representatives that will put the government back on track to individual freedom, lower taxes, less government spending, and a smaller government, then that’s fine. However, we all don’t need God to understand that this is the correct way to run the country. Learning the correct government policies and voting for them will move us in the right direction. Praying that the hand of God will do it for us is not productive.

  • beckfan

    pjkiger1,

  • rfpzzzzz

    What business is Beck’s rally to any of the cranks who dislike him or the rally for whatever reason?No one is making you attend/watch and he is motivated to do it for some reason. Whatever he is, he is not about hate of regular people.Lighten up and find something you enjoy to do rather than smear a citizen who is living his life.

  • mikhastur

    BF>>> I like GB because I believe he tells the truth and believes what he says, although he may be a bit paranoid with those conspiracy theories.so the factual inaccuracy of his statements and the illogic of his rhetoric mean nothing to you? Delusional paranoid narcissists believe a lot of things. that does not mean that they are grounded reality. and that is being kind, assuming that beck isn’t just a cynical political opportunist machine.

  • mikhastur

    @BF.. i am a huge fan of person freedoms. but to argue that “socialistic policy leads to more such policies and this eventually leads to a totalitarian government.” is simply ignorant given how much more “socialist” european countries are than the USA and yet somehow there are still no totalitarian governents in Western Europe. Iin fact, introduction to western european style governments has reduced the tyranny that existed in Eastern Europe.

  • mikhastur

    pjk >>>Glenn is not holding an MLK rally. His is a “Restoring Honor” rally that just happens to be held on the MLK anniversary.if you don’t believe that Beck knew what day he was picking when he planned a rally to “reclaim the civil rights movement,” then I have both a bridge and some oceanfront property in Oklahoma to sell you.

  • mishi69

    MIikhastur: “so the factual inaccuracy of his statements and the illogic of his rhetoric mean nothing to you?”As the conservatives’ other god, Reagan, so aptly pointed out, “Facts are stupid things.”

  • DaveoftheCoonties

    In the past, preachers similar to Hagee considered the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints to be a heresy and abomination. Apparently no longer. Here’s a 2007 transcript of Beck and Hagee.

  • persiflage

    Beck’s followers are a good example of the mindset of like-minded right-wing voters in the upcoming elections. Anti-Obamanites all, they despise democrats and will consequently vote for ideologically driven republicans (and tea partiers) with absolutely no talent, little government experience, and zero ideas – a party completely incapable of governing at any level in a modern society. The Beckenites want these idiots in charge….I tell you, the primitive hoards are out in force – and they love them some Glenn Beck!!

  • xjetjockey

    eezmamata you just proved my point which was “Most Christians don’t have hangups about Beck being a Mormon anymore than they would if he were a Jew.” So a 29% disapproval rating is a 71% APPROVAL rating, which is ‘most Evangelical Christians.’ There are a lot of Christians that are not Evangelical who apparently are not reflected in the pole that you’re citing. Someone who is a True Christian, not an imposter like Nancy Pelosi, doesn’t get hungup on what someone’s religion is. That’s a personal thing between them and God. We’re more interested in their character.

  • xjetjockey

    lufrank1 says “The Constitution specifies separation of Church from State, but both Civil Liberty politics and Tea Party politics have been and are continuously pushed in churches.”The Constitution doesn’t say that at all. Go look it up, you’ll never find it. What it says is “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion…” That doesn’t in any way preclude churches, synagogues, or mosques from getting involved in politics.The churches are hoping that the IRS will challenge their tax exempt status. Hundreds of churches are prepared for this, and they’re already prepared to take the IRS to court over it based upon the 1st amendment which prohibits congress from “abridging the freedom of speech,” which clearly the IRS restriction of free speech in the pulpit does.

  • xxy123

    Mr. Beck is a classic histrionic exhibitionist.And, because he has a modicum of “stage presence,” the gullible grovel.

  • xjetjockey

    mpersow said “The last time we mixed politics and religion, people were burned at the stake.”Ludicrous. Our country was founded on religious principles. People didn’t get burned at the stake by the government, and when our constitution was being created they prayed together daily, and after it was up and running they prayed, and still do, in congress. There was a Bible printed by Congress. There was even a church IN the Congress. Almost every single founding father was a Christian.This sort of atheistic revision of history that you tell is NOT going to continue to go unchallenged.

  • WmarkW

    I was wondering who would fill the void that Jerry Falwell left. “God” is code for “my opinions.”As Shaw said, “he is a barbarian, and thinks that the customs of his tribe and island are the laws of nature.”Of course, liberals think the same thing.

  • WmarkW

    Sorry, clicked the last post too quickly…Of course, liberals think the same thing.They assume that if you give everyone as much money and opportunity as they have, they’ll use it just as wisely, even if they aren’t prepared to take stewardship. So you end up with things like inner cities of non-families and bankrupting universal health care programs.

  • eezmamata

    So we get collectivism and socialism from the democrats, and we get tyrannical theocracies from the republicans.This *is* a tea party event, and it *is* a religious event.I would have joined the tea party people in their efforts were it not for the religious fanatics who have taken it over. Just like they took over the republican party.Where is that part of the thinking, rational America that truly does believe in small government and self-advancement, self-reliance? Why do we have to have all these evangelicals and socalists trying to tell us all how to live?

  • eezmamata

    Just like the nazis and communists of the last century, who hated each other with a passion those of us not prone to being True Believers cannot understand — the evangelicals on the right and the socialists on the left today are warring over the “soul” of our part of the world.And I find it a curious thing, that these people who hate each other .. .and us for that matter .. with such passion, are really the exact same kind of people. They differ in the smell of the breath and their farts, but their desire to cram their ideology down the throat of all other metabolizing sentient beings they can get their ugly hands on is EXACTLY the same.

  • cornbread_r2

    People didn’t get burned at the stake by the government… xjetjockey You need to read up on the various Inquisitions. Church officials ran the courts, but the torture and punishments (including executions) were carried out by secular authorities.

  • ironmule

    Leftists despise excellence. Leftists despise anyone who displays any attempt to demonstrate honesty, integrity, devotion to a cause higher than oneself. Filthy rich Leftists like George Soros fund information-mills to pump less-fortunate Leftists full of hate for anyone or anything that makes them uncomfortable with their shriveled and unshriven status in this good and evil world. It is no illusion. It is happening before our eyes. Nothing or no one could be more harmless than Glenn Beck or Sarah Palin. But in Beck and Pailin all the hate-filled Leftist sees “bigotry” “opportunisim” “vaulting ambition” “love of self and something for nothing.” I am not a fan of Glenn Beck or Sigmund Freud but I can plainly see that the Leftists are projecting onto Beck and Palin the very traits that they themselves find most attractive in one another. Leftists are dangerous, hate-filled people and should be shunned by decent folk of every race and creed. BTW, the Latin word for “left” is “sinister.”

  • coqui44

    That’s how Obama got you to drink his kool aid, speaking in tongues about him and god.I guess Beck is using the same script to run for presidency next elections. For the looks of this rally, he will win.

  • Scottvj

    “Faith, Hope and Charity”? I’d say it’s all about faith and hope in a confused civil religion. What on earth does that religion look like? Just look at the crazy combination of platform speakers: Beck- the Mormon talk show host (who thinks his bizarre faith is mainstream Christianity) ; Hagee- the Armageddon preacher and Zionist who prophesies about the End; Mrs. Copeland- the health and wealth lady who flies around on a private jet courtesy of naive little old ladies who want God’s blessing. I am a professing Christian but I do not put my hope in civil religion (or America for that matter).

  • eezmamata

    XJETJOCKEY, what do I care what kind of phony christian pelosi is or is not?This whole thing turned out to be just what I thought it was. You can’t even get along with each other. Repeatedly you use words like “real christians”NONE of the atheists make that distinction, only you christians do. You’re all christians to us, This wasn’t a libertarian pro-freedom, pro-liberty rally, this was an attempt by you evil SOB religious fanatics, your last attempt now that you realize the republicans aren’t as dumb as you thought they were, to take over the government and impose you tyrannical theocracy on us all.If you think you’re going to get anywhere with this, you haven’t even begin to see the resistance you’re going to face.You people are evil,

  • RachelinCalifornia

    Glenn Beck seems to know little or nothing about Christianity. On Thursday, Beck quoted Barack Obama’s account of his conversion experience. Obama wrote: “Kneeling beneath the cross of the south side of Chicago, I felt God’s spirit beckoning me. I submitted myself to his will, and dedicated myself to discovering his truth.”Glenn Beck claims that submitting to God’s will is not Christian! He says that only Islam teaches submission to God’s will! Is he out of his mind, or simply unaware that submission to God’s will was spoken by Jesus in the Garden, preached by Paul, and part of hundreds of Christian hymns and millions of Christian prayers? What kind of Christian is Beck?

  • emtm

    I was at the Kennedy Center last night for another performance. Glenn Beck may say he respects separation of church and state, but his followers sure don’t. Lots of tee shirts announcing “This is STILL a Christian nation.” It would be nice if they actually read a little about the religious beliefs of Jefferson, Washington, and Franklin–deists to a man.

  • WWWexler

    Glenn Beck is attempting to unite the tea party religious factions behind his Mormon cultism. He set the stage for this by giving the commencement address at Liberty University, an event that should have sent the Christians howling into the streets gnashing their teeth and tearing their clothes. Instead, they have decided that political ideology trumps heretical theology. I can tick off a list of 10 Mormon heresies, any one of which would get you the boot if you proclaimed them from the pulpit of a Bible church. But the Bible churches don’t really care about religion at this point, they care about taking down Barack Obama.Glenn Beck’s rally today is an exercise in heresy, false premises, and politics. There is a transparent window dressing of it being a bi-racial, non-partisan event but it is not. The inclusion of Alveda King as the “token black” should be telling. She is ostracized from the King family and has been for some time due to her extreme views. The SOWF beneficiaries consists of 100% Purple Heart families and Glenn Beck has promised to denigrate the Purple Heart in the first 15 minutes. The claim of this being non-political is ludicrous. The groups behind this are all GOP operatives like FreedomWorks, the NRA, Fox News, and so on. There isn’t a single liberal speaker on the schedule. The whole thing is a sham concocted by the reigning King of Flim Flam and you should expect the worst. The worst examples of fractured history, of attempts to demonize our current government, the worst examples of trying to inject God-talk into public discourse where the Founders said it has no seat at the table.-Wexler

  • smgess

    @IRONMULE- your name says it all…you obviously have worked this all out and nothing will sway you. I am a member of the Church of the Brethren. We follow Christ’s teachings. We try to live simply, which means we do not live beyond our means; we do not honor wealth, and we help others. We abhor war, and see no purpose in it. We do not hate. I vote Democratic because I see far more “Christian” ideals expressed in that party. The right holds up God as their leader, then starts wars, removes all social safety nets, and now, thanks to Palin and Beck, tries to start another class war in this country. While the left strives for equality and fairness, the right (in Latin, double dealer) appears far more concerned with individual wealth and rights…thus we see the old “Don’t Tread on Me” signs…the collective bows to the individual. I am not sure how you come up with that world view being correct or Godly. To me, it is evil and against everything God wants for us.

  • Pellinore

    I think that the comparison between what Beck is doing now, and what spiritual leaders in America have always done, is both apt and correct. You don’t have to agree with him; it is enough that a large group of people do. It’s a bit farther back, but remember that the Abolitionist movement was an extreme, radical anti-government society-disrupting movement in its time too.As to the many back-and-forth comments about Beck being a lunatic, a narcisist, a great leader or a demogogue, I don’t see any reason he can’t be all of them at once. Some of his statements are clearly wild accusations without any basis in fact; others are disturbing in their conclusions, and have a legitimate trail to link them. Many of our great public figures have been self-promoters, if not self-centered – recall both the Kennedy family and Ronald Reagan, to name touchstones on both sides of the aisle. The mark of a leader is his capacity to energize and organize a following, and Beck has done this. The only difference between a great public figure and a demogogue is what they do with their followers when they have them.I don’t think Beck is the next Hitler, and the Tea Party is a new NSDAP. I also don’t think he or the Tea Party are going away. They have grievances, and they wont go away until they feel those issues have been resolved. Whether the Tea Party, and Beck, are ultimately a positive or a negative force in American history remains to be seen, and we likely wont have an answer for many decades. Recall, at the time of the MLK Jr. march, many felt it was needlessly provocative and damaging to the public debate over race. Now, it is a touchstone of effective public assembly (which is why Beck is emulating it).Let them have their day in the sun, and see what they do with it. If they march on Congress to burn it down, in a kind of “Lincoln Memorial Putsch”, I think that Park Security, and the MPD, can handle it.

  • Question_Assumptions

    As for the “barely a high school graduate” remark, look up “successful high school dropouts” (with quotes) on Google and then note how many actors and musicians on that list are regularly applauded and treated as serious founts of wisdom because their politics are left-of-center. Complaining about his education, like so many other things, is a matter of politics more than anything else. This is all a symptom of the sad state of what passes for argument on the internet today, which relies on logical fallacies more often than not. An “ad hominem” argument (that is, attacking the messenger rather than the message) is a logical fallacy. The validity of the message has nothing to do with the messenger.The validity of what Glenn Beck says has nothing to do with his education, religion, background, or any other biographical detail. The validity of what Glenn Beck (or anyone else) says depends on the details and logic of what they say. If you want to criticize what he says on the basis of facts or logic, that’s fine, but the personal attacks are just logically irrelevant political put-downs that have no bearing on the validity of his message.Look up “logical fallacies” if you don’t get what I’m saying. There are plenty of web pages out there that explain it in great detail.

  • ghamilton1787

    I was disappointed that Glenn did not urge people to purchase more gold coins. Maybe he was too caught up in wrapping himself in strong central government activists like Washington, Lincoln and King. Bet those guys would advocate buying gold coins and kicking the immigrant money changers out of the Mosque.

  • ghamilton1787

    I was disappointed that Glenn did not urge people to purchase more gold coins. Maybe he was too caught up in wrapping himself in strong central government activists like Washington, Lincoln and King. Bet those guys would advocate buying gold coins and kicking the immigrant money changers out of the Mosque.

  • bloommarko4

    Beck sure sounded like Elmer Gantry to me! – “O Lord, thou hast stooped from thy mighty throne and rescued thyHe turned to include the choir, and for the first time he saw that”Let me count this day, Lord, as the beginning of a new and moreTHE ENDWhen demagogues like Glenn Beck hold sway over our constitutional republic, it will represent THE END of the Founders’ Dream. May God Bless America, and keep her free from false patriots like Beck.

  • xjetjockey

    Apparently many people don’t understand the mission of the Restoring Honor rally. It is:The mission of the rally is to recognize our First Amendment rights and honor the service members who fight to protect those freedoms.

  • bendan2000

    “We are 12 hours away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.” Are you kidding me? Can anyone be more full of himself?

  • xjetjockey

    wwwwexler said: “The whole thing is a sham concocted by the reigning King of Flim Flam and you should expect the worst. The worst examples of fractured history, of attempts to demonize our current government, the worst examples of trying to inject God-talk into public discourse where the Founders said it has no seat at the table.”From the Facebook Restoring Honor: “Throughout history America has seen many great leaders and noteworthy citizens change her course. It is through their personal virtues and by their example that we can live as a free country. On August 28th, come celebrate America by honoring our heroes, our heritage and our future.”Looks to me like Wexler is the one doing the demonizing, along with all the other Beck bashers.

  • MidwaySailor76

    Besides Jesus Christ, Ghandi and Mother Theresa were not ‘well educated’ people but they all had a profound impact on history.Posted by: mclainla

  • sclarke11291

    @xjetjockey – then why is he holding a religious rally and stating it is about G*d almighty? 1st amendment = freedom to practice and prohibits the establishment of a national religion. if GB wants that to be LDS, i’m illegally crossing to Mexico! @mishi69 AmEn to that! brothers and sisters, read up on LDS/Mormonism, talk to recovering Mo’s and you’ll realize the that leap of faith it takes to believe in Jesus coming to America, unreadable golden tablets and special high heaven planets is beyond faith — it’s wack.

  • Beacon2

    Beck is an entertainer, he gets paid to do this. He gets paid to talk on his show and has a script of talking points that he repeats over and over. He makes a lot of money. His alliances are with his masters, wealthy libertarians. That is all you need to know.

  • imZandor

    Beck is as much of a Christian as the Republican party is…BOTH ARE FAKE CHRISTIANS LOOKING TO MAKE A BUCK AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF GULLIBLE IGNORANT CHRISTIANS, THEY DESERVE EACH OTHER!!Modern Christians are WORSE than the Crusader Christians who murdered and broke every law of mankind in the name of their God!!Modern Christians are acting just like the NAZI SS during WWII. Either you agree with them OR ELSE YOU DIE!!Worship their FAKE GOD OR ELSE YOU DIE!!I have news for you, America IS NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION, AT MOST 24% OF THE PEOPLE ARE CHRISTIAN THE REST JUST LIED TO GET OFF THE PHONE!REPUBLICANS CHRISTIANS ARE BIGOTS, RACIEST, LAIRS, HYPOCRITES & 98% WHITE ONLY! MOST ARE VERY OLD AND READY FOR THE GRAVE ANYWAY!I hope Beck takes you morons for millions!!The Idiots who believe Beck deserves to be ripped off!!!

  • swatkins1

    Using God as a shield to push your ideology is blatant snake oil salesmanship. Sheeple will follow anyone who vomits his or her born again status. Religious people should be telling Beck he is a false prophet instead of glorifying him.

  • areyousaying

    Faith, hope and charity?while education and health-care are “socialism”?The only “charity” these Huckabees believe in is tax cuts for big business and the rich and endless war to prop us defense contractors in this depression to arm “the military warriors of Christ”

  • mcauleysworld

    Dr. Alveda King and Marcus Luttrell are the “featured” speakers. Dr. Alveda King is the niece of Martin Luther King, Jr. and daughter of the late civil rights activist Rev. A. D. King, Martin Luther King’s younger brother. Alfred Daniel Williams King (known as A.D.) was arrested with his older brother and 70 others while participating in the October, 1960 lunch counter sit-in in Atlanta. On 11 May 1963, A.D. King’s family home was bombed… After MLK’s assassination ADK assumed his post as co-pastor of Ebenezer Baptist Church. “When I join Beck and all gathered at the Lincoln Memorial this weekend, I will talk about my Uncle Martin and the America he envisioned. I will talk about honor and character and sacrifice. I will be joined by those who represent the diversity of the human race. On Saturday, Uncle Martin’s dream of personhood and human dignity will resound across America. And the Park Police should consider themselves forewarned: As we stand in the symbolic shadow of the great American who signed the Emancipation Proclamation, we just might sing.” Dr. Alveda KingMarcus Luttrell is a former Petty Officer First Class and United States Navy SEAL, He received the Navy Cross for his actions in 2005 facing Taliban fighters during Operation Red Wings. In 2010, Luttrell established the Lone Survivor Foundation (SOWF). The foundation’s mission is to “Go to extraordinary lengths to Welcome Home, Empower and Restore American Wounded Warriors, their Families and Surviving Families” …(Lone Survivor Foundation) SOWF, which has only eight staff members, is happily inundated thanks to Glenn Beck’s promotional efforts. The group typically raises money through banquet dinners – the most one of these events has ever raised is $1 million, which caused the SOWF staff to “do a little happy dance,” according to Edie Rosenthal, a retired Navy lieutenant commander and spokeswoman for the group. Since Glenn Beck has started talking about the group on his radio and television shows in advance of the 8/28 rally, some $5 million in donations have poured in. “We’ve never had an event that cost this much either,” says Rosenthal. “I was at the Lincoln Memorial just looking at the number of port-a-potties and the screens that are being set up.”

  • shaiarra

    It’s really dishearting to see that Minorities (Blks/Hispanic, WHITE FEMALES etc) are Consenting TO AND ENFORCING Discrimination and Jim Crow/ BLACK CODES SEGREGATION STRUCTURE, IT’S BEING ENFORCED ON SAME SEX BY OTHER MINORITIES !!!, THAT WILL ESTABLISH A LEGAL “PRECEDENT” (STAR E’ DESISIS) THAT GO AFTER THEM AS WELL IN THE FUTURE AND OVERTURN THEIR CIVIL RIGHTS etc (GRANTED TO THEM BY REPUBLICANS HISTORICALLY), BUT BY THEN NO ONE WILL HEAR THEIR PLEAS FOR EQUALITY BECAUSE IT WILL BE TOLD TO THEM , YOU ALL CONSENTED TO IT ON OTHERS,AND BY THE BINDING PRECEDENCE OF STAR E’ DESISIS IT ALSO APPLIES TO YOU ALSO, BECAUSE OF THIS “BLACK CODES” STRUCTURE ENFORCEMENT MINORITIES etc HAVE BECOME THAT WHICH THEY HATE AS WELLTHE BIBLE WAS MIS-USED AGAINST CIVIL RIGHTS ERA AND TO JUSTIFY SLAVERY AND JIM CROW AS NOW “BLACK CODES” LIKE STRUCTURE BEING USED AGAINST SAME SEX BY OTHER MINORITIES (WIKIPEDIA AND GOOGLE “BIBLE SLAVERY” AND “BLACK CODES) and it wont help you if civil rights is overturn BY CONSENT BY MINORITIES TO SEGREGATE, IT WILL SET A LEGALLY BINDING PRECEDENT (ADA/BLK AA/ NOW,NAACP and others) THAT WILL FINALLY START TO ERODE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION AND CIVIL RIGHTS….THANK “MINORITIES”, …Bigots, YOU BROUGHT SLAVERY BACK MIS-USE BIBLE THUMPERS…..BRAIN WASHED!!! AS BILLY HOLLIDAY SONGED “STRANGE FRUIT” HANGING FROM THE TREES, (SHACKLES AND TREE HANGING AGAIN IN MIS-USE OF BIBLES STANDARDS AND CODES TO ENSLAVE OTHERS)Since when did “JESUS” avocate death penalties???, YOUR THE SO-CALLED SATANIST NOW!!! PETER PUT AWAY THAT SWORD, YOU WILL DIE BY THE SWORD!!

  • xjetjockey

    Most Christians don’t have hangups about Beck being a Mormon anymore than they would if he were a Jew. We appreciate his focus on values and God. If we Americans make those two things the top priority in all of our thinking and actions, then we, as a nation, and we as individuals, will be all the better as a result. Beck is totally on the right track with this rally and with his message. It appears that the only people who quibble over his religious beliefs are those who are apparently atheists. True Christians don’t care.

  • shaiarra

    It’s really dishearting to see that Minorities (Blks/Hispanic, WHITE FEMALES etc) are Consenting TO AND ENFORCING Discrimination and Jim Crow/ BLACK CODES SEGREGATION STRUCTURE, IT’S BEING ENFORCED ON SAME SEX BY OTHER MINORITIES !!!, THAT WILL ESTABLISH A LEGAL “PRECEDENT” (STAR E’ DESISIS) THAT GO AFTER THEM AS WELL IN THE FUTURE AND OVERTURN THEIR CIVIL RIGHTS etc (GRANTED TO THEM BY REPUBLICANS HISTORICALLY), BUT BY THEN NO ONE WILL HEAR THEIR PLEAS FOR EQUALITY BECAUSE IT WILL BE TOLD TO THEM , YOU ALL CONSENTED TO IT ON OTHERS,AND BY THE BINDING PRECEDENCE OF STAR E’ DESISIS IT ALSO APPLIES TO YOU ALSO, BECAUSE OF THIS “BLACK CODES” STRUCTURE ENFORCEMENT MINORITIES etc HAVE BECOME THAT WHICH THEY HATE AS WELLTHE BIBLE WAS MIS-USED AGAINST CIVIL RIGHTS ERA AND TO JUSTIFY SLAVERY AND JIM CROW AS NOW “BLACK CODES” LIKE STRUCTURE BEING USED AGAINST SAME SEX BY OTHER MINORITIES (WIKIPEDIA AND GOOGLE “BIBLE SLAVERY” AND “BLACK CODES) and it wont help you if civil rights is overturn BY CONSENT BY MINORITIES TO SEGREGATE, IT WILL SET A LEGALLY BINDING PRECEDENT (ADA/BLK AA/ NOW,NAACP and others) THAT WILL FINALLY START TO ERODE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION AND CIVIL RIGHTS….THANK “MINORITIES”, …Bigots, YOU BROUGHT SLAVERY BACK MIS-USE BIBLE THUMPERS…..BRAIN WASHED!!! AS BILLY HOLLIDAY SONGED “STRANGE FRUIT” HANGING FROM THE TREES, (SHACKLES AND TREE HANGING AGAIN IN MIS-USE OF BIBLES STANDARDS AND CODES TO ENSLAVE OTHERS)Since when did “JESUS” avocate death penalties???, YOUR THE SO-CALLED SATANIST NOW!!! PETER PUT AWAY THAT SWORD, YOU WILL DIE BY THE SWORD!!

  • query0

    Beck’s movement is about Glenn Beck. He is the biggest narcissist on the national scene currently. Claiming to be a religious beacon, as well as a civil rights leader, scholar, historian, economist, etc., is just more narcissism. In reality, the guy is barely a high school graduate.

  • xjetjockey

    afraid4usa said: “At best the “Founders” were deists.”This is a total falsehood. Virtually every single founding father was a Christian. Two sites to prove it out:

  • MPersow

    As I wrote yesterday, xjetjockey is either a fool or an idiot, having been drinking too much of Beck’s kool aid for way too long. ‘Tis a shame the he is representative of the dumbing down of America.

  • cornbread_r2

    The link says there were over thirteen hundred footnotes, and out of those there were two false quotes, and 10 questionable ones. Barton then corrected the errors both on his website and in his book. I hardly think that invalidates his book as a whole. 12 out of 1300 seems pretty decent.

    How many quotes does a self-styled expert on American history like Barton have to fabricate before you consider it If this country was “founded on God”, why isn’t God mentioned in the US Constitution?

  • areyousaying

    Too bad Howard Stern wasn’t as smart as Beck turning his mesmerizing shock-jock powers to gather a huge flock of hapless lemmings into millions.He’s a cash cow to the LDS church if he tithes 10% of his $32+ million to them. No wonder Mormons are so silent while he has become the media example of them.

  • greenOK5

    I am completely surprised at the venom and vitriol directed at the rally. I watched the second half of it & I never heard any disparaging/negative/combative comments during my whole time watching. My take away from the whole rally was a challenge to me to be an honorable man of integrity and get back to God & the roots of the country (I can’t see much to dislike there). I recognize that there are apparently many people who find it stupid to believe in God, but really that’s up to me to choose whether or not I believe in and want to follow God. If you’re an athiest, then just let me be who I am and I’ll let you be who you are (why would it be of interest to you?). He had quite a few black folks on singing & speaking and Beck and the lilly white crowd appeared to really appreciate and support them. He praised Dr. King throughout the time that I watched him. Changing gears, I don’t care what my neighbors salary is, if he is willing to work hard and make a ton of money, more power to him. Same thing for Glen Beck. He’s an extremely well-read man who articulates what many of us feel, but can’t say so well. If he makes alot of money doing it, great. Why is that my concern? If you listen to him much you would know that he’s not too fond of Republicans as well as Democrats. Sorry this is rambling, but there have been a great deal of comments previously.

  • labman57

    Beck, Palin and many other right wing pundits and politicians are simply tapping into the basic fears and emotions of people who are understandably worried — a natural and reoccurring mindset during times of economic uncertainty. This Return-to-God approach to dealing with hardship is hardly new, and it’s intellectually lazy and usually (politically) motivationally manipulative.Glenn is little more than a political televangelist taking his dog and pony act on the road. When windbags such as Beck and Palin call for a return to God as a guiding spirit in order to make America better, what they really mean is that we need to make the nation into more of a Christianity-based theocracy, using the tenets of Christian beliefs as the basis for forming public policy.However, God is not a micro-managing puppet master, and (gasp!) He does not favor one religion over another. Religion and politics make poor bedfellows. We need to focus on secular societal ethical behavior and non-faith based solutions to our nation’s problems … and leave religious morality in the church, synagogue, or mosque and within every individual’s home.

  • JilliB

    Religious, political, it doesn’t really matter. It’s just a scam by another self-promoting con man looking to score a buck.

  • builder7

    I cannot believe that this psychopathic liar would even evoke religion for anything. He can’t seem to go longer than about 3 minutes without telling another lie. If he is in charge of who we are then we are in trouble. He is so far from reality but in actuality he is just spinning propoganda for his masters, the Koch brothers, owners of the second largest business empire in America. I mean, who else would hire an ex drunk who occasionally relapses if he didn’t have one skill – a propogandist. That is as far as it should go because after one lie his whole platform becomes a series of lies, which it is.

  • Afraid4USA

    Well, I listened yesterday and the lies and distortions about this history of religion in America and its place in the founding of our country were sickening. He said the Revolutionary War was lead by men in black gowns-supposedly ministers. WRONG. Sure many ministers supported the Rev. War, but they didn’t “lead it.” At best the “Founders” were deists. He even slandered Patrick Henry and Jefferson. The worst part is that his audience is so poorly educated that they believe these lies. Maybe that’s the scariest thing about this Beck phenomenon. Personally, I think he’s a rapacious charlatan. Importantly, you never heard the word “Mormon” during the whole rally. Evangelicals hate Mormons like Dracula hates garlic.

  • drjills1

    I don’t think we’re taking Beck seriously enough. He represents a large group of people who make up a very dangerous minority – for the moment – that led to and voted for a Hitler. Beck’s lies aren’t little ones, they’re big ones and they get bigger every day. The greater the falsehood, the more likely it is people will believe it. A cynical appreciation of people, yes, but ably applied by Goebbels and his ilk.

  • WmarkW

    The Republican right thinks 2010 is the opportunity that 1994 wasn’t. At that time, the Contract with America group talked in terms of revolution and renaissance, but unfortunately for them conditions in the country at the time did not put the population in the mood for fundamental change.The same ideological group thinks 2010 is. I sympathize with a general outline of their position — current liberalism talks about every issue as being some group’s right, so economic issues bad for most Americans like competition from low-skill illegal immigrants, unfundable universal health care, and economic support for dysfunctional inner-city families, are cast as “oppression” by the majority if it chooses not to fund them.Consevative rhetoric wouldn’t go so far out if liberal rhetoric wasn’t dominated by accusations of racism, sexism, Islamophobia, homophobia, white power structures, barriers to minority advancement and other suggestions that liberal-leaning groups aren’t responsible for their condition.

  • xjetjockey

    eezmamata, I didn’t think atheists believe in evil. Strange that you would accuse people of being something which you believe is non-existent.

  • xjetjockey

    cornbread. The link says there were over thirteen hundred footnotes, and out of those there were two false quotes, and 10 questionable ones. Barton then corrected the errors both on his website and in his book. I hardly think that invalidates his book as a whole. 12 out of 1300 seems pretty decent.All of this misses the central theme anyway, which is to be honorable, respect those who are honorable, and to follow God. The country was founded on God, and only God can save us.

  • xjetjockey

    drjills1 your Hitler is sitting in the White House. Conservatives believe in smaller, weaker federal government, not the large, overreaching government that is exponentially growing under the Obama regime. We believe in individual liberties and individual property rights. Obama believes in redistributive wealth, collective salvation, and a government that controls and dominates all aspects of our lives. Conservatives are way off in the other direction.

  • detoqueville

    Those following Glenn Beck on the path to God are going to have some detours on the way.

  • TTWSYFAMDGGAHJMJ1

    IN REPLY TO:ANS:No, Beck is only dangerous to the Atheists, Agnostics and the Libertines who advocate, the Sexual Revolution and the Culture of Death, viz. those who think that there is no God and that morality is subjective and relative. They flaunt the Natural Moral Laws inscribed in the Ten Commandments and are the real danger to society. They have legitimized the murder of over 52 million unborn in America alone, and worldwide, are murdering 43 million unborn every year. The dangerous are those who undermine the sanctity of human life, the institution of marriage, and thus, the foundation of all societies, the family.The Founding Fathers (FF) recognized that man was endowed by God with certain inalienable rights that circumvent the powers of government. However, Secularism is a contradiction of that very dignity of man recognized and preserved by the FF. Namely, the FF relied on our Judeo Christian heritage for their belief that all men are created equal and endowed by God with certain inviolable rights.Consequently, Jefferson noted, “If not the Church, who do we seek for our moral guidance?” It certainly is not our Courts who have violated the inalienable right to life and the sanctity of marriage. In “Lawrence v. Texas,” the Court claimed traditional morality served no legitimate purpose to the State. Consequently, the Court proscribed the Natural Moral Law from being a basis of Civil Law when it is the basis for all Civil Laws.It is our Judeo-Christian heritage that the FF relied on when inscribing our inalienable rights into the Bill of Rights. These rights sanctify the dignity of man. Without the recognition of God, man becomes the sole arbiter of rights. Thus, governments have two choices, either the portended evil a Secularist government personifies in Communism, Socialism, Fascism or Materialism that implicitly condemns man’s dignity, or we can choose a theodicean form of government that the FF chose that protects human dignity. A theodicy, opposed to a theocracy, is recognition of the divine attributes, particularly holiness and justice that embraces the Natural Moral Law. Theodicy’s concern is with defending man’s attributes endowed by God against objections resulting from physical and moral evil.

  • david13z1

    “Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.” Seneca. That pretty much says it all.

  • HookedOnThePost

    Beck gets his information, footnotes and all, spoon-fed to him from history books written by right-wing, biased and religious intellectuals.If Beck had ever been a journalist, he’d have learned that you can’t get the truth when you only use one source, one side of an issue.

  • APaganplace

    Beck saying ‘Honor’ is like Torquemada saying ‘Mercy.’ Twisted, arrogant, wrong, and precisely the opposite of his very occupation.

  • rryan007

    Beck is all about getting ratings by saying something outlandish, it works in America. Just look at all the attention he’s receiving right now. It’s made Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin and a host of other idiots rich and famous.

  • APaganplace

    Actually, come to think of it, wake me up when Glenn Beck is not on this screen. :)

  • FRIENDENEMY1

    At the end of the day, religious conservatives, secular liberals, and all others outside and in between, wave to each other as neighbors, sit down and eat dinner as family members, call eachother friend, and are all Americans.This is what has put America as preeminent amoung the nation-states.Not returning to God or getting away from god.It’s the ability to try different solutions from different ideologies until we solve a problem.

  • pierrecasteneda

    God to Glen Beck:Thou shalt not bear false witness.

  • lufrank1

    “Get thee behind me,” Beck!

  • LeastOfThese

    How does a cradle Catholic convert to Mormanism….Beck was raised Catholic, even educated by Jesuits. Ecce Dies Irae

  • SunflowerPipes1

    I think the point about the Koch Brothers is that their companies release toxins into the air to improve their profit margins, They structure their companies so that most of their taxes are sent overseas, They pay their employees as little as possible and cut corners on safety, They regularly violate US law as long as the fines don’t exceed the profit motive. They have hidden their political activities from the public and from the Tea Party itself. They promote studies that will manufacture false results that will save their company money. In short they are exploiting the environment, American law and the American people, sending money abroad and creating a false political and environmental reality.

  • qqbDEyZW

    In 1820 almost 45 years after the US declared it’s independence a man name Joseph Smith Jr. said he saw an angle who gave him a book about early religion of Americans. Yes Smith’s parents and grandparents had seen visions which they called magic. Like many from that time in US history the quacks come out and sold their lies. Beck a recovering addict/alcoholic fits right in. Becks morals are much like the founder Smith. Smith felt men should gave many wives even taking others wives. Smith was for slavery but against not being able to have sex with a slave woman. Beck who’s brain is fired on drugs could follow any idiot who tells him he can get millions from people by playing them for fools. Using Religion has become common for Satan’s workers and it’s works very well.

  • kbenston

    Even posing the question plays into Beck’s hands. He’s a racist, xenophobic, homophobic, entirely retrograde demagogue, and no shifting of his discourse into tamer territory can cover that core reality.

  • jrnberrycharternet

    Glen Beck is a fake a fraud and a hoax, as is Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh. If liberals do not start fighting back these ultra conservative fanatics will try to take over the country. They talk about democracy but want only like minded people in government. That amounts to a dictatorship not democracy. They do not want to share power they want it all. Just like Adolph Hitler did in 1932.USMC vet.

  • Desertdiva1

    Although not a Tea Party member or a far right religious conservative it’s time to make an observation. Glenn Beck is not running for office. His day of “Restoring Honor” was not meant to endorse any political party or candidate. It hurt no one. Let it go. The left’s anger at losing control in such a short period of time was not caused by Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, or any other right wing media personality. You simply lost the people’s mandate by your actions and comments. Continuing to blast this subject only costs you more on election day. It will take the Democratic party many years to recover from the Obama years.

  • sailmaker1943

    What’s astonishing about all this is NOT Beck: we’ve had semi-religious political hucksters yammering in our ears for forever, from Fr. Caughlin to McCarthy to Nixon/Agnew to Bush to Palin to Beck. What’s astonishing is the willingness of the American mob to be led by bumper-sticker rhetoric, jingoistic slogans, half-and-mistruths, outright lies, especially those clothed in the fabric of religion, and blatant appeals to the merely superficial trappings of American life. Who’s against Mom, motherhood, and apple pie, e.g.? No one. I don’t give a royal rat’s patoot whether Beck is Mormon. What I care about is his shameless pandering to the idiots among us, with the intent to instill fear and hatred, suspicion and distrust, among the less-than-thoughtful and less-than-educated among us who seem paralyzed and unable to think sensibly and logically about the mental trash he’s littering over the airways. Do I trust Washington politicians? No. Do I trust Beck, Beck-ism, and the Beckheads who swallow his poisonous miasma whole and parrot it back in slogans and hand-made signs? Hell no. I guess what sticks in my craw is the realization that this baby-faced idiot is making people afraid: afraid of themselves, afraid of their neighbors, afraid of anyone who doesn’t look, act, or sound like them. Pluralism is evil, diversity is catastrophe, difference occasions hatred and revulsion, according to Beck and his Beck-heads. If the man really understood American history he would be — if intellectually honest, and I doubt that he’s capable of that — utterly unable to maintain such a notion with a straight face. Beck’s followers, and he seems to feed this idiot idea, is that they want their old America back. Which America was that? The one where only old white guys got ahead? Where there were few discernable minorities, or at least, where minorities had the good nature to keep quiet and out of sight? Where everyone in plain view were white anglo-saxon protestants only? This America never really existed, but Beck doesn’t know that. Or — and worse — he chooses to ignore the fact. We are a nation of diversity and difference: we are White and Black and Asian and Indian, we are Protestants, Catholics, Jews, Moslems, Wiccans, etc., and that’s not going to change. There’s a new Hindu temple in our small southern community, and we rejoice in a new house of worship for our neighbors and friends who are Hindu. Beck won’t understand this, but we who are the real Americans, understand completely.

  • researcher2

    A recent poll suggested that some people believed Obama is Muslim. Beck at least doesn’t believe that but did state that Obama practices a Christian religion that “True Christians” don’t recognize (liberation theology according to Beck). Do “most Christians” recognize Mormonism as being part of “True Christianity”

  • rcc_2000

    How Christian is Beck & the Tea Klan. Well, if Jesus were alive today they would fighting to stand in line for the opportunity to drive a nail into him for being a socialist do-gooder from the middle east.

  • greatgran1

    This was to restore honor and integrity to our government rally. This was not a religious rally even though I believe God is present where those he loves gather and I think he loves all. Glenn Beck is a Mormon and I have no problem with his being patriotic or anyone else out there in the crowd.

  • paultaylor1

    Beck rose to prominence on messages of anger and hatred toward fellow human beings. His messages, both overt and implied, are about their race, their nationality, their culture, religion, philosophy and politics. Beck’s followers eat his message up because it is where their hearts are.Which prompts one to ask whether their brand of Christianity is a weapon for their politics. And whether it is really devil worship.

  • richard36

    While many seem to discredit Beck, the message the rally provided was uplifting and encouraging. It was a rally and should be taken for just that. Arguments should be focused on the points made at the rally, not Beck, Mormons, Christians, Jews, or any specific religious faith. Argue the content of the rally, not the religious back ground of the speakers.

  • hitpoints

    >> Barton insisted that “We don’t want our country to become secular” and Hagee prayed for America to overcome the “politically correct fog” and the idolatry of ‘pluralism.’That doesn’t remind me of Christianity as much as it reminds me of Islamic movements in secular Muslim countries like Turkey. You know, the type of people these Christianists try to frighten us about, with tales of how Sharia law will take hold in America.

  • hitpoints

    >> But the rally was to set the tone for honor to be restored in government service. Now who would have a problem with that except someone who had no honor or did not value it?Exactly why Beck and Palin use such simplistic notions as their tactics. Who could be against honor? Who could be against patriotism, or freedom?Problem is when you ask “what would honor be?” and you get an earful of the claptrap about Obama being a Muslim, or of legislative manuevers they characterize as “sneaking”, or “ignoring the people’s will” and such, when they raised not one squeak of protest when the GOP used exactly the same techniques in years past.This rally was primarily the Bush 23 percenters, Birchers, rapturers, and black helicopter spotters. When the government is Republican and spends, spends, spends, and tortures, and spies on its people, and starts wars, these people are content.

  • Gille002

    Beck is a morman not a Christian.

  • burtonpaul

    How “christian” is Glenn Beck?Answer: As “christian” as the all-mighty dollar allows him to be.

  • ravitchn

    While you guys and gals are knocking Beck, what the heck is so wonderful about Martin Luther King,Jr? Except for a few blacks like Obama who knew how to benefit from the Civil Rights movement, most blacks, like those in Newe Orleans and Camden, NJ, and Detroit would be better off on plantations.

  • hitpoints

    >> eezmamata, I didn’t think atheists believe in evil. Strange that you would accuse people of being something which you believe is non-existent. Posted by: xjetjockey The mind boggles at these kindergarten minds.A belief in evil as a characteristic of human behavior is not dependent on a belief in supernatural or supreme beings.It’s as if xjetjockey believed that bad breath was put upon the world as a curse from the ruler of the heavens, eezmamata doesn’t believe in a ruler of the heavens but comments on the malodor of bad breath, and xjetjocket thinks he has a “gotcha” moment of eezmamata’s supposed illogic.Is there any hope when so many of the populace cannot even reason at a basic level?

  • Itzajob

    Two words: Elmer Gantry.

  • areyousaying

    A theodicy, opposed to a theocracy, is recognition of the divine attributes, particularly holiness and justice that embraces the Natural Moral Law. Theodicy’s concern is with defending man’s attributes endowed by God against objections resulting from physical and moral evil.Posted by: TTWSYFAMDGGAHJMJ1 |This guy’s idea of a “theodicy” is hiding pervert priests from civil prosecution.

  • santaregina

    Certainly Beck is a sort of Christian. He is also sort of psychotic.

  • eezmamata

    >> eezmamata, I didn’t think atheists believe in evil. Strange that you would accuse people of being something which you believe is non-existent. Posted by: xjetjockeyOh, you’re not non-existent.My mother is a Catholic, she’s returned to this church after a lifetime away from it, and now that she’s old it gives her comfort I wouldn’t want to deny her.I still think she’s a fool for believing this nonsense, as anybody putting their faith in these kinds of fairy tales, and she still thinks I’m probably going to hell for not believing in them.But we spend time together, we love each very much. We are both certain of what we say … this is how things are in America. This is how things should be.But people like you xjetjockey, if the theocracy you and your dominionist monsters want to inflict on the world, well, you wouldn’t let me be atheist. You wouldn’t let my mother be Catholic .. hell, you wouldn’t even let Glenn Beck be Mormon.That is why you are evil.

  • joe_allen_doty

    John Hagee was pastoring an earlier church when he was married to his first wife. He divorced her so that he could marry a woman in the church with whom he was having an affair. Hagee preaches politics from the pulpit.

  • joe_allen_doty

    People like David Barton help give Oral Roberts University a bad name. He majored in “Religious Education” at ORU and was not even certified to teach in Oklahoma’s public schools. But after he was graduated, he taught in school at his parent’s church in Texas. He got himself on the Texas Department of Education’s Textbook Committee. And he also got himself on the board of the Texas Republican Party. Barton proof-texts scriptures from the Bible and bits and pieces from historical documents in an attempt to prove that the USA is a “Christian” country. He is an American History Revisionist. In my opinion, he is not a minister and doesn’t even preach sermons based on the Bible only.

  • joe_allen_doty

    The word “virtue” has the Latin root of “vir” which means “man.” Virtue is the quality of being a mature adult (especially as a man).

  • blarsen1

    Beck is crazy…like a fox. He’s preparing Christians to accept a Mormon as president–Mitt Romney. The right realizes Palin or Newt aren’t electable, but Romney, with his slick hair and money, are as close as they’ll get.

  • patmatthews

    Glen Beck is Mormon and that is NOT Christian, ask John Smith.The Mormon Church is racist, as their previous Bible edition indicated the “Evil people are marked with dark skin..” The two are a perfect fit, as many call Mormonism a cult as John Smith re-wrote the bible to fit his group being persecuted. If you have not studied the Mormon’s also killed settlers in the 1800′s.the Tea Party, Evangelic, and the Conservative Right are all following false knowledge, including Mitt Romney, whose father is a Mormon Preacher, another racist.racism fits Mormonism as they were accused of racism prior to re-writing their bible. I have the original bible with the original teaching of racism.Study history or else you will repeat history!

  • eezmamata

    Because Beck’s religious intolerance isn’t as bad as what’s going on in the horn of Africa, we should just ignore it?That’s the point you’re making, did you know that?We are thinking adults, you know. It’s possible to condemn both of them at the same time.

  • katie6

    The secular progressives have a stranglehold on the nation which has been building for 40 years. It has reached critical mass now with all the socialists ans yes communist sympathizers in the White House and now with Obama taking over private business one after another, favoring labor unions and ruining our economy with his failed policies. Is it any wonder that Beck, who exposed his agenda a year ago, has so many followers? He has given people who felt helpless the courage to now have a voice and we are seeing it all over America. That is the Palin and the Beck factor. Good for them.

  • bob2davis

    If there were a god, there would be no glenn beck!

  • eezmamata

    Beck exposed his what?

  • observer1776

    Hello WashPo hacks.

  • martymar123

    Spiritual or political?Whatever makes him the most money.

  • gratianus

    Which churches are you talking about when you ask: “is it fair to compare what Beck is calling for churches to do with the role churches played in the civil rights movement of the 1950s and 60s?” Are you talking about churches that spear-headed the fight for civil rights, whose ministers walked at the head of marches, whose members put their lives on the line to advance their cause, or are you talking about the churches whose ministers railed against miscegnation, against the violation of what they imagined were biblical principals that supported segretation and who did everything possible to maintain the status quo? I’m sure there were white ministers and congregations in the South (and elsewhere in the US) who were on the side of civil rights but the preponderance, particularly in the South, were united in their disgust at change. I wonder how many of those whom Beck implored to fall to their knees in prayer are the children of those obstructionist Christians? “Reclaim the civil rights movement?” Give me a break. These people are delusional seekers of victimhood. They can reclaim the civil rights movement when they have their own Bull Connor, their own Birmingham, their own strange fruit. It’s as if Pontius Pilate dreams he was crucified.

  • minco_007

    Glenn Beck is a Mormon! Most of you have no idea what that means or you wouldn’t be referencing Beck and Christianity in the same sentence. So matter of fact and so misinformed! If this weren’t so idiotic we could at least call you hypocrites but this borders on lunacy. The Wink Wink! element has you all engaged, very revealing it is. Something else is bothering ya, and we know what that is! The denials are getting lame.

  • smithbidet

    I think the main problem the liberals have with Glen Becks “Restoring Honor” , is that they have no concept of Honor.

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