The mystery of Falun Gong

By David MatasInternational human rights lawyer Last year, as millions of Iranians flocked online to tell stories of political repression … Continued

By David Matas
International human rights lawyer

Last year, as millions of Iranians flocked online to tell stories of political repression and police violence, the world was introduced to an unlikely champion in the fight for freedom of information online: the spiritual practice Falun Gong. American practitioners of Falun Gong, it turned out, had spent nearly a decade developing and refining the most effective and widely used anti-censorship software in the world — software that has been instrumental in the free flow of information to and from closed societies.

Who are Falun Gong and what drove them to build anti-censorship software?

The Government of China recognizes five beliefs and bans all others, including Falun Gong. Falun Gong is a modern update and blending of two religions China does recognize – Taoism and Buddhism, combined with a simple set of exercises. Of all the banned beliefs, none is treated worse than Falun Gong, banned in July 1999.

(Read more about Falun Gong at Patheos.com)

Practitioners of Falun Gong represent two-thirds of the Chinese torture victims and half the people in detention in re-education through labour camps. The documented yearly arbitrary killings and disappearances of Falun Gong exceed by far the totals for any other victim group. According to research that David Kilgour and I have done,
set out in our book Bloody Harvest, practitioners have been killed in the tens of thousands since 2001 so that their organs could be sold to patients in need of transplants.

The extremes of language the Chinese regime uses against Falun Gong are unparalleled. The Government of China has imposed a censorship blackout on independent information about Falun Gong. Chinese internet police block any mention of Falun Gong – other than their own propaganda – on websites, blogs, e-mails and search engines.

Why is this happening? One answer is the numbers. The practice of Falun Gong went from a standing start in 1992 to numbers greater than the membership of the Party within the space of seven years, spreading rapidly throughout China immediately after the Tiananmen Square massacre, the collapse of the Soviet Union and the loss of Communist Party control in Central Asia and Eastern and Central Europe.

The Party took fright at seeing Chinese nationals in the tens of millions engaging publicly in a form of exercise which had an underlying belief system completely divorced from Communism. Falun Gong is not an organization. The exercises can be done anywhere at any time, as little or as often as the practitioner wants. They can be done singly or in groups, indoors or outdoors. The amorphous nature meant that it was impossible to control.

The early stages of propaganda and repression against the practice of Falun Gong by elements of the Party pushing to have the Party ban the practice led to petitions and protests by practitioners, generated through cell phone and internet coordination. The mobilization of Falun Gong practitioners alarmed and frightened the Communist Party.

For the Communists, victimizing the Falun Gong is a crime which is easier to get away with than victimizing other, better known groups. Falun Gong victims are often people without Western connections or Western languages.

The incitement to hatred against the Falun Gong, like all incitement to bigotry, has an impact. The Chinese Communist Party noise about the practice of Falun Gong confuses and obscures.

The Falun Gong are an outgrowth from ancient Chinese traditions. To the Chinese Communist Party, Falun Gong was a regression back to where China was before the Communist Party took over.

The problem for the Communists was not just that Falun Gong is so authentically Chinese; it is also that Communism is so patently foreign.

Communism is a Western ideological import into China. Communists saw a widespread, popular Chinese-based ideology as cutting out from under them the very ground on which they stood.

Tolerating the Falun Gong would not have meant the collapse of the current regime. But it would have meant the disappearance of whatever ideological presence the Communist Party had in the hearts and minds of the Chinese people.

Jiang Zemin, in a leaked memorandum sent to the standing members of the Political Bureau of Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party in April 1999, wrote: “Can’t the Marxism our Communists have, the materialism, atheism we believe in really win over that suit of stuff aired by Falun Gong?”

The answer to that question, it seems, is no. Left alone, Falun Gong would have won. So the Party repressed it with a viciousness beyond compare.

David Matas, co-author of “Bloody Harvest: Organ Harvesting of Falun Gong Practitioners in China,” is an international human rights lawyer based in Winnipeg, Canada, and a nominee for the 2010 Nobel Peace Prize.

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  • schnauzer21

    Oh yes, so dangerous. If we are not carefull their armies will come and Tai-Chi and meditate us all to death.

  • edbyronadams

    Getting rid of Falun Gong does not fix the fundamentals of the Chinese ruling clique. It is neither closer to God, closer to Marx or closer to the will of the people.With no theoretical underpinning, they hold power by delivering the good life to the Han and that is grasping firmly on to the tiger’s tail.

  • Aprogressiveindependent

    The Communist party generally seems to be widely regarded among the Chinese as being discredited for their policies, similar to Republican in the United States, of favoring business interests over the common people, workers and the environment. Officials may be feared, but resented because of frequent corruption and being in league with developers who have cheated millions of people out of their homes, land. As to Falun Gong, the exercises may be benign. Had Falun Gong been tolerated in China, the current widespread spiritual void and excessive materialism, similar to in the United States, could have been significantly mitigated However, some of the teachings are in conflict with basic science. A small minority of adherents have become excessively preoccupied with their “practice,” leading in some cases to health and family relationship “issues.”

  • RayK1

    “The Communist party generally seems to be widely regarded among the Chinese as being discredited for their policies, similar to Republican in the United States, of favoring business interests over the common people, workers and the environment.” I enjoyed the article and accepted the conclusions until I read the preceding comments. A mostly irrational conclusion to say that the Republican Party has been discredited for it’s policies. The coming 2010 elections are shaping up to be a blood bath for the Democrats-who will be discredited then?

  • boblusby

    Falun Gong has the audacity to criticize a regime that permitted murder during peaceful protests. Shame shame, oh, and better keep the peace, Big brother Mao is watching you.

  • bendan2000

    The Falun Gong is yet another stupid and useless brainwashing movement. Harmless? Maybe, if you want weak minded members of your society falling for this crapola. Then again, we allow Scientology to scam people out of money under the guise of freedom of religion, so why not?

  • qrsi

    Nonsense. Falun Gong is an organization full of nut cases – started by Chinese born who live in America – who want to cause trouble in China. Tai chi does not equal Falun Gong. Make things up much? They are a cult. A militant cult of Christians in America would be regarded no differently

  • qrsi

    Nonsense. Tai chi does not equal Falun Gong. Make things up much? Falun Gong is a cult. A cult of Christians with the objective of causing insurrection in America would be regarded no differently by our government. Oh, wait, that’s what we’ve got in the Tea Party! You’ve lost your marbles.

  • Nymous

    The CCP can lick my poo parts. They’re so corrupt & nasty that they have no credibility & must rely on repression. The government is the biggest criminals in the country. They’re afraid of Falun Gong like it’s some hungry ghost that wants to steal all their cursed gold away from them.Stupid communist fools think the rest of the world will trust them when we still can see what they do. They might want to hide but they can not. So they whine instead.

  • Nymous

    RayK1,

  • MisterGuerilla

    The Communist Party has no one to blame but itself if these religius nutjobs take over. I talk to many a Chinese immigrant here in the US and most of them have NO CLUE about Charles Darwin and Malthus and are even stupidly led to the local churches! DUMB! Also, why are the Communists doing business with the Capitalists?? INSANITY!

  • ak1967

    The Chinese can use an organization that is based on Taoism, Buddhism and meditation. That will help reduce the violence as has seen recently in the society. Plain Buddhism will be great for the country. Imagine trying to spread non-violence and meditation all over the world.

  • thmak

    American practitioners of Falun Gong, under the surreptitious funding by anti-China institutions, had spent nearly a decade developing and refining the anti-censorship software in the hope they can bypass electronic surveillance (e.g. USA) and censorship to spread their cult ideology. Both religious leaders of Taoism and Buddhism reject the teaching of Falun Gong and regard it as cult. Falun Gong members cause divisiveness and social instability in China. Falun Gong diehards are deservedly punished. The Government of China has imposed a censorship blackout on information about Falun Gong to prevent it from brainwashing the gullibles. Chinese internet police block any mention of Falun Gong to prevent it from instigating any anti-society actions. The Falun Gong is a cult and a sect. It is an upside-down spiritual practice, deeply rooted in non-Chinese history and traditions, whose adherents live by the principles of false Truth-Compassion-Forbearance. This is indicated by the lavish way its leader Li Hongzhi lives and his demand of absolute support from his followers. Li has no truth by proclaiming that he has the power to control the world/universe and foretell the future. He has no compassion by escaping from China and live a comfortable life in a foreign country while complaining that his followers are being harshly treated in China. He doesn’t even use his supernatural immense power that he claims he has to save them. Instead he is just moaning, whining and groaning about their treatment just to claim financial support from those gullible folks. He has no forbearance in his persistent attack on China for his disobedience of the Chinese law while living comfortably in a foreign country. Gullible people easily succumb to and are mentally controlled by his simple exercise of salvation.

  • dummy4peace

    If a person has lived in a tightly controlled environment such as a home or a country, he or she can be more easily attracted into a cult religion or group later. This person is not used to free-thinking with an open mind and tends to think the world is divided into black and white and nothing in between. Therefore, this person without any practice of critical thinking can easily mistake one cult as an escape from another, because a controlled environment is what they know best. You have to ask why Falun Gong exists in the first place.

  • wesley5

    The recent violent attacks on schools in China show that China appears to be prosperous on the outside, but its society has so many serious problems, both mentally and spiritually. According to a recent AFP article, China today has some 173 millions people suffering some sort of mental illness. Many of these mental men and women are the direct victims of the Chinese communist party.Chinese people live in a “giant can” guarded with an AK47 by the evil communists.

  • hansi22

    I have been practicing Falun Gong for eight years now. I Learned the exercises in self-study via internet clips. From the first moment of doing the exerciseses I felt that this stuff was something special. Never before I experienced a strong energy field like this surrounding me, and believe me, I tried several other Qigong-systems before. Within a few weeks I felt strong like never before, I had stopped smoking and all the disharmony in my familiy disappeared. And I feel the same today, after eight years. I can say “Thruth, Compassion, Tolerance”, the principles of Falun Gong, are really the key to health, joy and harmony. Falun Dafa is great!

  • chereldick

    To treat Falun Gong as an human rights issue is debatable. One of the debatable issues of Falun Gong is that it is said to forbid sick people to see doctors. There were reported cases of death relating to the gullible practioners. I don’t know how his preaching work is in America now. If he used the same method of psyche manipulation and succeeded, then there would be no need for any medical insurances reforms in USA. Most practioners in China were underprevileged people. Many of them had no medical insurances like 30 millions of Americans who were not covered by any medical insurances before President Obama’s landmark reforms.

  • dummy4peace

    It is always very sad to see parents cry over the loss their children to violence no matter where this tragedy had occurred. However, I suspect these angry middle-aged men did not turn murderers accidentally. Perhaps under the very corrupted system, they had no way to get justice for their grievances and turned violent. (It is possible that they lost their children in the earthquake.) Since they felt they had lost everything and got nothing more to lose, they might have chosen to harm the children of the higher political or economic classes. Children are not to be blamed, but the justice system is. Without justice, it is going to be very tough to enjoy harmony. This is really an unnecessary tragedy.

  • qrsi

    David Matas is feeding Post readers a bunch of b..s… Falun Gong is a cult – cult – cult – Get it? Their leader is a nut case who was born in China but lives here in America – luxuriously – getting money from Christians who want to believe the garbage he spews about “freedom of religion.” And all of you who believe David Matas are FOOLS. The Falun Gong leader (Li) is a CONMAN and has been conning Americans under this guise of freedom of religion and now (being the clever conman that he is) is claiming that it’s all about freedom of speech – thus the anti-censorship software. The Washington Post’s On Faith section is the center fold for PROPAGANDA – anyone who is full of b…s… can write what appears to be a legitimate piece on “faith” and have it published here. This is an avenue for those who excel at delusional thinking and at creating false enemies of America. Shame, shame, shame on you, David Matas, and on the Washington Post, and on Sally Quinn and Jon Meachem. Get real jobs and produce a real newspaper! This thing has turned into a tabloid. After Newsweek, the Washington Post will be next.

  • RousseauC

    I agree that the government approach to Falun Gong is a bit too harsh and some Falun Gong practioners have been treated unfairly, but that does not mean Falun Gong is something that the whole world or even many Chinese should practise.

  • Albert911emt

    Just a guess, but the way “qrsi” was commenting, and the tone of those comments, makes me wonder if “qrsi” isn’t maybe a shill for the Chinese communist government, posting comments here promoting their own propaganda, acting as an “indepedant” commentator. Just a thought.

  • ling11

    There is a story that a former Nazi member was rescued from frozen, and when he woke up, he kept on telling something like ‘Jews are pig. Kill Jews.’

  • wesley5

    I have no doubt QRSI is paid by the evil government of China to post his comments on this forum. The way he comments accurately reflects the mentality of the government of China. China employs an army of low-class netters to post comments in online forums as to affect public opinion in China favor. If we were in China, they would send AK47-touting thugs to finish us off. That’s what Mao Zedong did some decades ago. It is purely evil for the Chinese to worship Mao Zedong. Mao Zedong is no better than Hitler.QRSI, go see a psychiatrist. You badly need a mental evaluation!

  • pioneer1

    Newly-established religions always make the others very nervous. The fact that you could start a new religion this afternoon suggests that the concept of religion is a bit more ephemeral than the ol-dline folks want to admit. Mormonism to non-Christians is just another explicit and obvious flavor of Christianity, but many Christians arent so sure. In truth, they are unhappy with the idea that Christ showed up in the US in the 1800′s per Mormonism; that sounds too much like a kid’s fairy tale to them; better that Christ was around thousands of years ago but has moved on to bigger things since then. Mythology-based belief systems need to marinate for thousands of years to claim true legitimacy; back then all this cool stuff happened and look, its all written down in this set of books that we have to believe word for word (except maybe you should not deal with the problematic parts about killing everyone who doesnt ascribe to this particular mythology). So, FG is also too new; by definition, too new to be on the Official List of Allowed Mythologies of the Communist Party of the Peoples Republic. At a secular level its just more savage repression by a totalitarian regime that knows the top will blow off the keg sooner or later and they arent sure where it will all start: Tibet, Uighurs, the rural masses, etc.

  • alance

    To China – the Falun Gong is a subversive organization – defined by wanting to overthrow the Chinese government.To China – we are funding their enemies.We risk offending 1.4 billion people.To China – this is cold war Déjà vu.

  • prinsesselien

    I am a Chinese who lives in Europe right now. A lot of information I can find now but I never had possible to find when I lived in China, such as what was really happened at Tian An Men massacre. I couldn’t find a single Falun Gong book from a book trade in China. I think the free flow of information is definitely important for all of us. It is significance that If a government who want block information flowing, than that is a big sign that the government is a totality regime.I prefer to read Falun Gong book and make my own opinion, can you believe that you can download all the Falun Gong books from internet for free?! I have found that the values of Falun Gong are truthfulness compassion and tolerance. I understand now why the communist regime in China persecute Falun Gong, because they are scared that people will weak up from the lie the communist regime has planted in the peoples mind. I wish people in China could just like me to have free access to information, this is their rights. Falun Gong practitioners in the US have made it possible. They have done a great job. I have high respect to them.

  • prinsesselien

    I am a Chinese who lives in Europe right now. A lot of information I can find now but I never had possible to find when I lived in China, such as what was really happened at Tian An Men massacre. I couldn’t find a single Falun Gong book from a book trade in China. I think the free flow of information is definitely important for all of us. It is significance that If a government who want block information flowing, than that is a big sign that the government is a totality regime.I prefer to read Falun Gong book and make my own opinion, can you believe that you can download all the Falun Gong books from internet for free?! I have found that the values of Falun Gong are truthfulness compassion and tolerance. I understand now why the communist regime in China persecute Falun Gong, because they are scared that people will weak up from the lie the communist regime has planted in the peoples mind. I wish people in China could just like me to have free access to information, this is their rights. Falun Gong practitioners in the US have made it possible. They have done a great job. I have high respect to them.

  • lu_ma_ke

    I won’t condone the PRC’s repression of religion, but perhaps it would be helpful to take a historical perspective in order to understand China’s position vis-a-vis Falungong. China has a long history of popular uprisings, many of which were fueled by religious entities. Perhaps the most famous was the Taiping Rebellion — a movement started by Hong Xiuquan with pseudo-Christian underpinnings — which began in the 1850s and lasted more than a decade. Ultimately, more than 30 million Chinese were said to have died before the rebellion was put down. Not suprisingly, Chinese leaders have come to cast a dim view on anything which smacks of becoming a movement which might get out of hand. Strange as it may sound, China has even been very leary of things like Amway.

  • VirginiaReader2

    Many of the anti-Falun Gong comments illustrate a need for freedom of the press in China and in Chinese news abroad. Even Chinese news here in America is funded by the Communist party and inundated with anti-Falun Gong hate propaganda. Falun Gong promotes independent thinking, something the Chinese government is afraid of. As for the cult label, that was also invented by the Communist Party. Also, once the practice is understood, one can clearly see if does not prohibit taking medicine, another misunderstanding due to CCP propaganda. Check out this article to better understand the impact of hate propaganda.

  • JD213

    alance: “Risk offending 1.4 billion people.” what you really want to say is “risk offending a few at the very top who are most concerned about their power, their evil deeds done to their own people.” Mass majority of the 1.4 b are uninformed, or even badly misled with tightly controlled media and internet. Cold war? Terrible! maybe we should have just surrendered to the Soviet in the first place to avoid that major conflict. But, then we would have been less of Americans with no principles and even dignity!

  • lawrence9

    Shall we assume 1.4 billion Chinese people all think alike with Chinese communist party? I think many don’t, and many who can think independently are sympathetic to FG, and hunger for free information their technologies provide.Do we want a China with 1.4 billion people’s minds being educated and shaped by communist party’s propaganda on state run media and thus holding hostile mentality to the U.S., or a china with its people embracing universal values as we do here? If the answer is the second one, then there is no better way to achieve it than internet freedom. I think what FG’s software is doing is to the exact interest of Chinese people and long term interest of U.S. The same strategy applies to Iran too. Communist party maintains its rule through lies, information censorship, and violent crackdown. They fear the most free information and people who dare to reveal truth. As far as I can tell, FG doesn’t seek any political power. What they are doing now is mere response to the persecution. I admire what FG scientists did on internet freedom in the past 10 years with all volunteer work and money from their own pockets.

  • laureltwo

    I would like to point something out. Not a lot of people have very much time. Anyone blogging in the middle of the day probably feels strongly about China human rights, either for or against it. Why would anyone be blogging against Chinese human rights in the middle of the day? [in other words, I can understand taking time out from a busy schedule to defend an innocent who is attacked, but I think it says something when you take time out from a busy schedule to purposefully instigate bad feelings. Why? and are you really taking time out from your schedule or is this what you are in part supposed to do?] Another issue is that those accessing the Washington Post online are most likely of better than average education; they likely have access to a lot of information. It is disingenuous to suggest that the Chinese government actually believed that Falun Gong was a threat to taking over their country. It is also ignorant or purely hateful and deceptive to repeat slander about these innocent people, especially to repeat it as if you are worried or concerned when your point is actually to frame them a little more. Without frame-ups like the false immolation incident and some of these other stories that you have alluded to, the persecution of innocent people believing in truth, compassion, and tolerance would have never got off the ground in China (www.falsefire.com is a good reference). Hate is the beginning of killing by those who would fan its flames; and it’s used as a tool in China by the regime in control, which is a dictatorship waving a flag of communism, whether its communist in form or not. The language barrier has kept a lot of the nastiest (and more laughable) lies away from the Western world, but there are some well-paid and well-educated internet bloggers on the bankroll of the CCP in the name of something like “Cultural ministry” if I remember right? Let’s not export it over here, thanks? I remember there have been several good articles discussing a premeditated Zhongnanhai incident, as well. The extent to which the Chinese government attempts to bend, warp, and control information has impacted us in the West. This online session is witness to it, I would say. Now, I am totally late for where I was headed to…but stop being nasty online, and please, if I hit it on the nose, get a real job for the benefit of everyone, not the least for yourself.

  • ding9226

    To: chereldickWhat is your source in “One of the debatable issues of Falun Gong is that it is said to forbid sick people to see doctors. There were reported cases of death relating to the gullible practioners.” and other claims?I often doubt these claims against Falun Gong. Usually mainland Chinese media, controlled by the Beijing regime, produce these stuff. Having living in U.S. for so many years, I haven’t seen or read this type of incidents taking place in other countries. There are no lack of Falun Gong practitioners outside China. If it is the practice of Falun Gong that causes the problems you mentioned, why does it cause problems in only China only?

  • onequestiondao

    Greetings DavidIt seems to me Falun Gong is a Confucian sect not Taoist.in peace,

  • Aprogressiveindependent

    Allow me to add the following to my earlier comments about Falun Gong. The practice and belief system of Falun Gong, often referred to as Falun Dada, is very complex. Anyone who doubts this should read a couple articles from the Falun Dafa website, or at the Wikipedia website, for a limited background. As with any religion, philosophy or self-help movement, some practitioners accept or become involved in aspects of Falun Gong in varying ways. Many seem to primarily use the exercises to improve themselves physically, perhaps psychologically. Most seem to genuinely accept the three basic principles of Falun Gong, truthfulness, compassion and forbearance. Although some of the teachings of Falun Gong have appeared to represent prejudice against gay persons. In any event, many people have expressed gratitude, check out the reviews of books by the founder at the amazon website, to how the exercises and acceptance of the three key principles have benefited them. Some of the teachings and ideas of the founder of Falun Gong are controversial. He seems to reject some of the basic ideas and theories of science, including about the origin of the universe and Darwinian evolution. His attitude toward the issue of practitioners taking medicine seems ambiguous. Here is a quote from one of his lectures, at the Falun Gong website:” Q. While cultivating, do we still need to take medicine?A: You should think and decide for yourself about this. Taking medicine while cultivating implies that you don’t believe in cultivation’s ability to heal; why would you take medicine if you believed in it. If you don’t hold yourself to our character standard, problems might come up and you might say that Li Hongzhi doesn’t let you take medicine, but Li Hongzhi asked you to make strict demands on your character, and have you done that? The things that exist in the bodies of true cultivators are not those of everyday people, and none of the diseases and ailments that everyday people have are allowed to occur in your body.”

  • Aprogressiveindependent

    Sorry for the typing mistake. Falun Gong is often referred to as Falun Dafa.

  • tomguy1

    Does it really matter whether Falun Gong members comprise a legitimate spiritual movement or a wacky cult? Seems to me, in either case, the Chinese government does not have the right to imprison, torture and kill them.

  • rush_n_crush

    Regardless of what the racist Chinese haters outside of China wish, Falun Dafa has been deemed to be a dangerous cult to the well-being of all Chinese. That is why the racist Chinese haters want to give these cultists money to help them to insight hate on the internet to try and divide Chinese society.The white man can kill his own Christian cultists in Waco, but doesn’t want us Chinese to defend ourselves from similar cultists who operate and receive safe haven as terrorists in the USA. Why? Because the racists don’t want us to protect ourselves from what they know to be dangerous, so that Chinese society would be in disarray, and the white man can then bring back Western Imperialism to Chinese soil, and attempt to mold Chinese culture to that of the white man’s.But it won’t happen, because we buy no more opium from the racist Chinese hating white man. There will be no Opium War III!

  • treetopflyer

    Rush_n_Crush, what combination of drugs, brainwashing and bribery turned you from a human being into a vacuous mouthpiece for a murderous regime which has time and again proven itself the enemy of the people they rule. Your racist charges are absurd. Aren’t the Falun Gong practitioners Chinese? Aren’t the traditions they draw on Chinese? How is it racist to support Chinese people who want to practice Chinese traditions? It is YOU who are racist – against your own people! – because you are opposed to Chinese people and traditions. The Chinese people don’t mean anything to you, only the Chinese state – i.e., that cabal of repressive parasites who have become the very image of the swine they overthrew sixty years ago, just as George Orwell depicted in Animal Farm (which is probably banned in China – in dictatorships, the truth generally is).

  • VirginiaReader2

    I would like to suggest that if anyone is confused about Falun Gong visit http://www.falundafa.org or better yet speak with a practitioner in person. While the lectures have some discussion on health and medicine, taking medicine is not prohibited. Don’t just read one paragraph out of context.Also, one person thought practitioners were against gays. While practitioners have some conservative views, they only apply to oneself. There is no attempt to try to change others. I experienced this personally from my practice of Falun Gong. Because Falun Gong requires us to look inward, we inevitably find prejudice within ourselves. Every human being has some prejudice but has trouble admitting it. Only through self-reflection can one unveil their prejudice against any other group of people.It takes time. But if a true practitioner holds prejudice against gays or anyone in his/her heart, he must address it within himself until the prejudice is gone.Thanks to my practice of Falun Gong, I do not hold any bad thoughts about gays or any other group. I like all people. When you get rid of prejudice, you will find your heart is lighter and you are truly free.

  • ae-inc

    the chinese government and its mindless supporters are a disgrace to humanity. why again did we let them host the olympics???…they are a beacon for consumerism and opportunism, but its hard to argue that their moral high ground is still in the basement. shame on you china.

  • qrsi

    Hey, you idiots. I am QRSI and I am not an agent of any communist government. I am a Chinese person who thinks the communists were vile and in fact, some of my relatives were killed by the Mao massacres. But I know that Falun Gong is just a bunch of crazy Chinese ex-patriots who have nothing better to do than exploit the American Christians and other fools who think that today’s China is killing, torturing and imprisoning Falun Gong. Do you honestly think that a nation that has been around longer than you can even imagine or a government that is trying so hard to become the world’s most powerful in terms of economics gives a hoot about these nut cases? It is a cult and China is NOT threatened by such nonsense. Folks like David Matas should spend their time in Canada helping the Eskimos get health care.Get a life, folks, there is so much to fix right here in America that you should devote your time and money to such problems as the thousands of poor white girls in the south who get pregnant at 15 and married by shotgun. Human rights issues exist right here in our own backyard. You can’t “fix” China – they’ve been around longer than you and are a whole lot smarter than you. Get a life. Especially Jon Meachem and Sally Quinn. How about taking on the real social issues in America instead of this pseudo intellectual “faith” issues like Jenny Sanford, Franklin Graham, and David Matas. You could do some good, you know.

  • 12345613

    We should know what Falun Gong is. It benefits over 100 million people around the world.Falun Dafa (also called Falun Gong, or just Dafa) is a high-level cultivation practice guided by the characteristics of the universe—Truthfulness, Benevolence, and Forbearance.”Cultivation” means continuously striving to better harmonize oneself with these universal principles. “Practice” refers to the exercises – five sets of easy-to-learn gentle movements and meditation. Cultivating oneself is essential; practicing the exercises supplements the process.Over time, the principles of Dafa unveil the deepest and most profound truths of the universe. Following the principles, practitioners of Falun Dafa are able to reach very high realms, enlightening to the true meanings of life, and finding the path of return to their origins and true selves.While the exercises have deep inner meanings, they also help to reduce stress and can bring great improvements in health and fitness.

  • truth_is_truth

    WHY so many argues here?WHY CCP FARES so much letting people hear different voices on FLG?If CCP does not do the evils things on FLG, why do not they explain it to the world?My friend’s dad is working in a prison. He told me that cruel things happening on FLG prctioners. CCP is killing people for their beliefs. That’s the TRUTH!

  • rush_n_crush

    “Rush_n_Crush, what combination of drugs, brainwashing and bribery turned you from a human being into a vacuous mouthpiece for a murderous regime which has time and again proven itself the enemy of the people they rule. Your racist charges are absurd. “YOU SOUND LIKE A TYPICAL RACIST CHINESE HATER TO ME!

  • thmak

    Falum Gong members will definitely be forcibly dispersed, beaten up, imprisoned, and persecuted if they insist to encircle the White House like they did in China even if they claim all kinds of freedom of this and that and claim what they do is just to raise the level of salvation for USA, to help USA getting out of the recession, thanks for letting them practice in USA, etc, etc.

  • ilias1

    Hi everybody, i just want to share an insight that has been very helpful for me in my judgment concerning my thoughts and actions, that is to be able to distinguish a good thought/action from a bad one. It is actually a very simple tool but not so easy to be aware of when you are in the middle of an emotional battle. When i am upset at the time when i wright something or respond to an opponent i have realised that the result will not be good because in my response there will be elements that are not positive, that provokes and isolates my opponent from the message i wish to convey. The enimosity will in this case be a predominant factor in our discussions. I therefor recomend that before sending the message, take a small brake and read threw the lines you have just written and weight them. If there is a good thought in the lines there will surely be a good reward but if there is a bad thought in them there will defenetly be a bad konsequence. This i my experience in this regard. Thank You.

  • cmkippcasati

    Hmmmm..History says communism over the globe has brutalized and murdered those who think differently, are religious or spiritual and one of the constant earmarks of communist governments is serious lies…which we call propaganda…but are really just plan old lies…about anyone or group that scares them..that might speak the truth. Falun Dafa is a meditation and cultivation practice.. No membership lists, no dues, just either cultivate or choose not to. So the idea of it being called a cult is way off center. The practitioners hold jobs, pay taxes, are known in their communities to be good people, they are basically quiet….peaceful people. This is shown with the practitioners living outside China. For more information see faluninfo.netAnother thing to remember: propaganda from communism is a tool it has used to justify any stance it wanted…and to change the lies any time it wantedThere never has been an honest, gentle, compassionate communist government..the ‘Utopia’ of Marx has over and over again proven itself a lie.The roots of Falun Dafa are real ….Truth Compassion Forbearance…these are things all people have longed forThe Christian beliefs were once persecuted too.

  • dummy4peace

    Our right to freedom of speech allows both Falun Gong and Chinese communists to speak up their mind on the American soil and websites. Our government does not decide for us what is good for the people. We decide.

  • thmak

    To dummy4peace: When you said “Our government does not decide for us what is good for the people. We decide.”, Do Americans decide to invade the Middle East. Do Americans decide to reward the Wall Street Financiers for crashing the American economy, Do Americans decide their income tax rate and other taxes, Do Americans decide all kinds of Government fees and legislations? etc, etc. The answere is no

  • thmak

    To cmkippcasati: People can do meditation and cultivation practice any way they want as long as they do not disrupt the normal operation of society. If they don’t, such as what they did in China, they are deservedly punished…..Truth Compassion Forbearance are not practiced by Falun Gong Leader Li Hongzhi himself. This is indicated by the lavish life its leader Li Hongzhi lives and his demand of absolute support/obedience from his followers. Li has no truth by proclaiming that he has the power to control the world/universe and foretell the future. He has no compassion by escaping from China and live a comfortable life in a foreign country while complaining that his followers are being harshly treated in China. He doesn’t even use his supernatural immense power that he claims he has to save them. Instead he is just moaning, whining and groaning about their treatment just to claim financial support from those gullible folks. He has no forbearance in his persistent attack on China for his disobedience of the Chinese law while living comfortably in a foreign country.

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