Arizona, immigration reform and Christian values

By Gabriel Salguero and David P. GusheeEsperanza for America and New Evangelical Partnership for the Common Good We write together … Continued

By Gabriel Salguero and David P. Gushee
Esperanza for America
and New Evangelical Partnership for the Common Good

We write together representing the partnership of two groups of White and Brown Evangelicals who have an uncompromising commitment to the Gospel of Jesus Christ. We hold dearly that two fundamental tenets of the Gospel are to love your neighbor and to be hospitable to the stranger. It is with this commitment in mind that we write this letter to our fellow Americans, especially our fellow Christians. We pray that the conscience of this country would remember that the truest test of America’s character is how it treats the stranger, widow, and orphan. We write to provoke that conscience.

In recent days much of the nation’s attention concerning immigration has focused on the signing of the SB1070 legislation in Arizona. Among other things this law requires local law enforcement to inquire about a person’s legal immigration status if they think there is any suspicion or question regarding the person’s status. This law navigates dangerously close to an enforcement-only policy and lends itself to the very perilous and undemocratic practice of racial profiling.

What criteria would law enforcement use to determine if one is to be suspected of being an illegal or undocumented immigrant? Is there a certain phenotype or look that determines suspicion? Perhaps overhearing the speaking of Spanish might be relevant? There are very good reasons why the passing of this law in Arizona has sent a shudder of fear through the entire Latino community in the United States.

In this country we have not required or insisted on people carrying documentation to prove their citizenship. The passing of this law in Arizona runs the danger of exposing many of our brothers and sisters of color to being harassed, detained, and arrested without cause. It threatens to unleash forces of hatred against Brown-skinned Americans that are already barely contained in this nation.

This is disastrous. It is not in keeping with Christian principles or, for that matter, with basic American values. Think about other provisions of the law. Clergy and people of good will could be arrested for keeping Christ’s commandment to love our neighbor by, for example, offering someone a ride to church, school, or work. As Evangelical Christians we cannot refuse to serve and love the immigrant, legal or not. We will not begin screening immigrant status on Sunday morning in our churches. The Gospel will not allow it. We answer to a higher authority.
This odious law threatens to divide children from their parents. It emphasizes enforcement without offering any common-sense or workable solutions to immigration challenges. It threatens to alienate and strain existing healthy relationships between law enforcement and immigrant communities. It could leave these communities defenseless before predators who can exploit their fear of local police. The SB1070 law will create an ecology of fear, scapegoating, and abuse.

We are deeply concerned that this legislation in Arizona may set a nefarious precedent around the country and will be imitated by other states. All this will not solve our immigration challenges but further tear the country apart. Latino Americans will feel all the more cornered and rejected all over the country.

For some time many leading White Evangelicals have joined Brown Evangelicals and argued that comprehensive immigration reform is what is best for this country. They have said in press conferences and statements that such reform reflects our principles of loving God and loving neighbor. Now, in the teeth of fear and reactionary hysteria, such White Evangelicals must do more. They must stand up for Christian principle in a more costly way. They must act to make immigration reform a reality right now. They must decry the Arizona legislation as inconsistent with our Christian faith.

In particular, we address our many Evangelical brothers and sisters who have for years advocated a Gospel that seeks reconciliation and integration of the whole human family. These Evangelicals have known that if we claim “one Lord, one faith, and one baptism,” we must also live out that confession in solidarity as one family. Evangelicals who claim to care about racial integration and reconciliation must act now. Silence is not an option. Silence is complicity.
Just as Evangelicals in times past have stood together on the abolition of slavery, women’s suffrage, and global struggles against poverty, religious persecution, and AIDS/HIV, we must once again demonstrate a mosaic of solidarity around comprehensive immigration reform–a reform that reflects God’s mandate to remember the stranger for we were once strangers.
We are asking our Evangelical brothers and sisters to use that moral courage that has often led to some of the most sweeping moral reforms in this country and around the world to act on behalf of the immigrants among us. We are calling on national and local leaders to lift their voices with us and say no to Arizona’s reactionary immigration law while pressing Congress for comprehensive immigration reform now.

Immigration reform is a spiritual and moral issue that requires Christians to live up to the meaning of our creed. If Christ welcomed me unconditionally should I do any less with others? Silence is not an option.

Rev. Gabriel Salguero is a leader of Esperanza for America. Rev. Dr. David Gushee is a leader of New Evangelical Partnership for the Common Good.

  • areyousaying

    Come now the hateful old white Huckabees holding up Leviticus 18:22 to bash gays and ignoring Leviticus 19:33 regarding immigrants. How convenient.

  • anaofelia

    As a brown hispanic non-christian female, I found the tone of this article extremely patronizing, insulting and condecending. Me thinks you are more concern with your coffers ($$) and converting people to your anti-abortion lunacy than anything else. If you so much believe in Jesus’s message why are evangelicals so hateful towards gays and lesbians? Not god’s children in your bible I guess. Last I heard it was not against any american law to be gay/lesbian BUT there are laws which prohibit the illegal and unlawful immigration to this country. NOT paying federal taxes is a crime. Living off other people’s hard work is not a sin? Lying is not a sin? Having a child out of wed lock so you can stay in this country illegally is not a sin? Have you embraced your african american patriots with this same understanding? Yeah sure, that’s why so many were lynch for years and why white christians cross the street when they see my brown a&* coming. In this country, there are laws which need to be adhere to and respected. It is part of the great american tradition to respect the rule of law. Unfortunately, many illegal immigrants who come to this country have no stinking clue what that means nor do they care and to them I say – if you do not like our laws go back where you came from. I am more afraid of understanding christians like you than I am of the police asking me daily for my US citizenship card – they are doing their jobs and for the most part do so professionally. I hope we in Florida pass a law similar to the one in AZ and soon.

  • DanielintheLionsDen

    Hispanics are basically Cacausion, Catholic, Western people, who speak a Romance language closely related to Latin, a cousin of English. They are not THAT foreign! Wow, what would one of these xenophobes do if they saw someone from Saudi Arabia, Japan, or China? Probably bust a blood vessel in their necks.

  • sidandphyl561

    it seems that law breakers will keep on having a field day with our immigration laws which laws are next to become extinct ?????

  • YEAL9

    If “Arizonians” did their own landscaping, cleaning, cooking, picked their own fruit and vegetables and changed their kids’ diapers, etc., there would be no need for Mexican, Haitian, Irish and/or Italian “slaves”.

  • macholara

    @ANAOFELIAFirst of all, I want to say sorry. I’m sorry that the bulk of Christian-America has responded and acted in such a way to leave you with such a sour taste for Christians. I will say that we are not ALL like this.Jesus preached about love, not hate. While I don’t agree with the gay/lesbian lifestyle, this is not going to change my feelings towards them as people. The Christianity that I preach is that about love for all, not just those who “act the part” (which is skewed, because we’re all screw-ups in one way or another).I will say that, however, including your sentiments about those people you have unfortunately encountered to THIS particular article is not necessarily a correct way to perceive the authors. I have met one of these on several occasions over the course of more than 10 years, and I can attest that he is not like those you’ve perceived.I think that you basically read this article from two evangelicals about one issue, which is the Arizona law, and offloaded a plethora of concerns, hurt, pain, or disgust about a lot of OTHER issues, and wrapped them with what the authors wrote about.I don’t think they’re concerned about converting anyone. I don’t think they’re concerned about their “coffers money.” I think they’re calling out to the “so-called” Christians out there to step up and speak out.Your other points are valid. I’m a Christian, and am disgusted myself with the right-winged debates that do nothing but patronize those that our very Christian beliefs call us to reach out to and love. But this is not the place to debate those topics. This is simply an article about the Arizona law.Again, sorry that you encountered some people in your journey that misrepresented Christ. That’s not what Christianity is about.

  • macholara

    @AREYOUSAYINGI don’t agree with any bashing here… especially the disproportionate anti-gay rhetoric that many non-Christians think we’re about. But you do bring up an interesting dichotomy in the two scriptures. Thanks.

  • bpai_99

    “I like your Christ. Christians, not so much.” – M. Gandhi

  • chatard

    You know what’s funny? You’ve got all these liberal, progressive, whatever-they-call-themselves these days operatives and pundits wailing and whining about the ‘Separation of Church and State’ and “We’ve got to go out in the desert and tear down that Cross!” Then out of the other sides of their mouths they have to go out and enlist supposedly ‘religious’ people to portray whatever an elected representative body might be doing to avoid anarchy and chaos as “un-Christian”, “immoral”, “uncharitable”, “not ‘socially’ just”. Where on Earth did Quinn and Meacham drag these guys up from?

  • usapdx

    A immigrant is a person from another country that becomes a CITZEN of the NEW given country. The plus 12,000,000 ILLEGALS in the U.S.A. are not immigrants but illegals from the first step into our country and give our immigrants a black eye account of people trying to call the illegals immigrants. To all are immigrants in the U.S.A., I welcome you and hope you have a happy full life in YOUR new country, the U.S.A.. To all you plus twelve million ILLEGALS, you are all have violated U.S.A. law and are a libility to our country. The root of this ILLEGAL problem are your U.S.A. employeers who are in violation of U.S.A. law by hireing you for SCAB wages so that you can make the employeer more money and take a job from a AMERICAN unless he wants to work for SCAB wages also. ILLEGALS, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT LIVEING IN THE U.S.A.. ALL NATIONS HAVE BORDERS EVEN THE VATICAN STATE WHICH IS A NATION. Religions that speakout on this POLITICAL issue are in violation of the rules of the tax exampt law , so file your income tax and pay your due tax as that is the price for TOTAL FREE SPEECH in the U.S.A.. GOD BLESS.

  • samwoods77

    There are no “white” and “brown” Christians. Please don’t politicize Jesus Christ – it’s unChristian. Furthermore, the Bible clearly speaks about God putting leaders into positions of authority, and about our duty to obey the laws of man. The US is based on the rule of law, not just some laws, all laws. I have compassion for those who wish to come to the US for a better life – no question. However, I also support the notion that America functions efficiently because the great majority of people play by the rules. It is fundamentally unfair that people in Africa, for example, are being persecuted in genocides, but we won’t let them come here; that Haitians with no hope and no homes are not allowed in our country; why is it that compassion is apparently only reserved for those who stroll across our borders, and steal honest people’s identity documents ($50 for a social security number, $100 for a birth certificate)? All people of the world should be on equal footing for admission to America. Enter the country legally, period. Stand in line and wait for that privilege, don’t steal it.

  • coachoconnorucla

    What are talking about ‘ render unto Caesar’ or ‘ turn the cheek’? Plenty of Christian versus backup either side.

  • coachoconnorucla

    What are talking about ‘ render unto Caesar’ or ‘ turn the cheek’? Plenty of Christian versus backup either side.

  • Vipda

    The problem with the term “Christian” is it’s definition – Most people identify a “Christian” as one who follows King James Bible, and he rst of the people identify a “Christian” as one who follows this version of Bible or that version of Bible.It would hve been much simpler if a “Christian” was defined as one who is a “follower” of “Jesus Christ”. Per this simple definition of a “Christian”, of all people on earth, even I would for some parts be a “Christian”.Isn’t it amsuing to know that Arizona, the first state that implemented ILLEGAL ALIEN ACT is a REPUBLICAN STATE – Republicans by definition are somehow MORE “Christian” than oher forms of human beings.Isn’t it amusing that Alabama, Texas, the next states in line to implement ILLEGAL ALIEN ACT, are all REPUBLICAN STATES.You know, Gabriel Salguero and David P. Gushee, in twenties years of my stay in United States, I have never had so much fun than this year, seeing REPUBLICANS, the most severe form of “Christians” on earth, kicking he sh*t out of sh*ty ILLEGAL ALIEN ass.

  • Vipda

    The problem with the term “Christian” is it’s definition – Most people identify a “Christian” as one who follows King James Bible, and the rest of the people identify a “Christian” as one who follows this version of Bible or that version of Bible.It would have been much simpler if a “Christian” was defined as one who is a “follower” of “Jesus Christ”. Per this simple definition of a “Christian”, of all people on earth, even I would for some parts be a “Christian”.Isn’t it amsuing to know that Arizona, the first state that implemented ILLEGAL ALIEN ACT is a REPUBLICAN STATE – Republicans by definition are somehow MORE “Christian” than oher forms of human beings.Isn’t it amusing that Alabama, Texas, the next states in line to implement ILLEGAL ALIEN ACT, are all REPUBLICAN STATES.You know, Gabriel Salguero and David P. Gushee, in twenties years of my stay in United States, I have never had so much fun than now watching REPUBLICANS, the most severe form of “Christians” on earth, kicking he sh*t out of sh*ty ILLEGAL ALIEN ass.

  • potaboc

    If one refuses to enforce a law, in effect the law is repealed. After all the not-so-very-valid reasons cited the fact remains that the US cannot afford unlimited immigration, nor should it. People in this country illegally are criminals. They should be treated as such.

  • Utahreb

    We welcome LEGAL immigrants to our country. ILLEGALS steal their entry into the United States. Why should we welcome those who steal from us?If all these so-called Christians want to help the illegals, then they should each take an illegal family into their home and sponsor them, give them a job, pay for their medical care, their educations, their social services. Put your money where your mouth is and stop expecting us, the citizens and legal immigrants, to pay for people who steal their way in.

  • edbyronadams

    If you want to claim that Christian values are ones of universal love and equality, the idea of nation states is not Christian and therefore controlling access across borders violates Christian values.Otherwise, a reasonable police officer can use reasonable criteria, especially mastery of the English language to generate reasonable suspicion that a person they encounter is an immigrant. If they are legal, they carry papers.Simple stuff, really.

  • hofbrauhausde

    Now, if they only talked about the Christian tenet of obeying the law…

  • Ali4

    “In this country we have not required or insisted on people carrying documentation to prove their citizenship.”The Arizona law allows police to inquire into immigration status during “lawful contact”, which does NOT mean that they can just stop someone on the street to inquire. Rather, they must have some other reason unrelated to immigration status, for stopping them, just as the law now requires when ID is asked for. The Arizona law lays out acceptable forms of ID proving legal residency, including an Arizona driver’s license and other documents, including licenses from States which ascertain immigration status per the Real ID Act.Immigration law is just as acceptable to enforce as any other secular law. What IS unacceptable is the attempt of certain parties to impose religious views on secular law.

  • Ali4

    Danielinthelionsden wrot:”Hispanics are basically Cacausion, Catholic, Western people, who speak a Romance language closely related to Latin, a cousin of English. They are not THAT foreign! Wow, what would one of these xenophobes do if they saw someone from Saudi Arabia, Japan, or China? Probably bust a blood vessel in their necks.”

  • sonel

    UTAHREB & SAMWOODS77: you said it perfectly!!As a “christian”, I feel this has nothing to do with christianity at all. Loving the brethren, while expecting him/her to obey the same laws as I is two different things!! Even the new convert in christianity is first taught obey the natural things, first!!! I was appalled at the lady who is fighting her arrest for being illegal(yeah, I heard all the other reasoning, but that’s the bottom line of the story)…..COME ON??I have a ?. Since when is it not a crime to be illegal??? We have become passive and numb to the issues off this country…which is why

  • daniel12

    So what are we supposed to do about illegal aliens? What method of preventing such? Of course it is racial profiling, but if this risk not taken, then what? Liberals have no answer. They do not even care. What will occur is more and more illegals will cross until Mexico becomes an unbearable burden on the U.S. then serious violence will occur. A good question is why are people crossing into the U.S. in the first place. Why not fix their own economies? How ironic: whites are not supposed to be racist here, but the very people complaining about racism have the last thing on their mind to live in their own countries where racism does not occur, for it is their country, and living in their own countries is the last thing on their mind because apparently they lack the ability to run a decent economy….

  • JWTX

    God also says if the you are elected to a powerful elected official. Take care of all thy people. But if you disobey my authority by violeting positions of power to abuse all thee people. Than you have now one to blame if they don’t obey you!

  • JWTX

    I know my comment is purely wishful thinking. I wish all of Gongress an Big Business were immagrents that we could kick there a-holes outta here!

  • alance

    No Hay Esperanza for America. There is no hope for America. Most of the Christians in America are CINOs – Christians in name only.Religions in America for the most part help the parents to teach their children who to hate.

  • JWTX

    All of immagragrets have taken all of my social securities. They take take take for granted an expect us to help. Well now there are way just too many of them. American cannot no longer afford leaches in our country. All of you leave now who are illegal an we no longer care if you have anchor babies there are not real Americans. Leave our, our country is broke thanks to all of you.

  • bigbrother1

    If you define “Christianity” as a religion that includes respect for the things that Jesus of Nazareth said and did, then no, there’s no way that the Arizona law can be called Christian.So-called “Christians” who support this law are no better than those who support torture. And how can they be Christians if they directly disobey Jesus? It would be much more accurate to call such people Satanists, since they worship a spirit of hatred and cruelty.

  • mark0004

    Unchristian like? They deliberately come here and suck the taxpayer dry with their anchor babies. They know how to play on our emotions, and on top of it all, instead of being gracious, they literally demand even more from the american taxpayer….

  • theduck6

    No . We are a nation of laws, or we used to be. We need borders that function. Latin America and Mexico need to get their act together and not dump their unemployment and criminal problems on us. We need immigration but legally and thru the front door Regardless of how long the wait is. If I am hungry and the line is long at the soup kitchen, can I jump ahead and steal the food? As usual the impetus behind the seperate views have no grounding in law.

  • jfv123

    Get on an airplaneThese are a few examples of my being required to produce identification during the past year.Exactly what world do people inhabit who think producing ID is unusual or oppressive?

  • buckminsterj

    jfv123,And now Arizonans can add “looking Hispanic” to your list. Sweet.

  • mhr614

    The Rev. Gabriel is a good huckster for his ethnic group. Would that he were as concerned for those Americans who foot the bills – for schools, health care, prisons and welfare programs-that the undocumented cost us all. Is it un-Christian to break immigration laws, reverend?

  • DanielintheLionsDen

    mark0004 “Unchristian like? They deliberately come here and suck the taxpayer dry with their anchor babies. They know how to play on our emotions, and on top of it all, instead of being gracious, they literally demand even more from the american taxpayer….”Maybe we should insist that they all have abortions, so we won’t have to deal with their “anchor-babies.”Wow! What a jerk. I would gladly trade you in for a Mexican.

  • blbower

    I would have to agree with “ALI4″. The bill is harsh, but then again Arizona must do something or be overrun by illegal immigrants. I do not believe it is un-Christian to require Latinos to submit to the same process as every other citizen from any other country in the world. This country will become stronger by allowing immigrants from all over the world, just please do it legally. And, PLEASE repeal the law requiring our schools to teach English as a second language. If young girls in Afghanistan can learn English, then so can the Latinos before they cross the border. If I wanted to emigrate to Brazil, I would expect to learn Brazilian Portuguese before applying for a visa.

  • kenc1

    One thing this opinion piece and the responses prove is that it is not helpful to argue anything in terms of whether it is Christian or not. That resolves itself into the question of opinions on the subject of what is Christian. So why not just begin with a statement of belief rather than an objective pronouncement about what is Christian and what is not.

  • gtrain82

    No offense to Christianity, but why would it matter if the law is “Christian” or not? It is a state law, not church doctrine. We do not live in a Theocracy. If you’d like things otherwise, I suggest you study Iran’s governmental structure and rethink your position.

  • terry_rudolph

    Of course it’s a Christian law. Just like slavery and Jim Crow in the south was preached from the pulpit.You might not be able to get into heaven by dancing and drinking, but, from all the people I have been told were fine God-fearing Christians, there sure must be a lot of bigots up there!

  • r_leever

    If you feel that our new law is so un-christian (whatever that means), how about you write a public letter, like this one, DEMANDING that your mayor and governor make a public offering of sanctuary, in your city/state, for all the illegals leaving my state.

  • cjbass55

    Hey JTWX, are you on drugs, only 6 or 7, completely illiterate?

  • JoeMck

    Lets watch all the Good Christians dismiss JC’s words and their so-called Christian Ideals. Cue the Xenophobia on 1,2,….Jesus’s teaching are the undeniable truth, except when Rush or Glenn tell me otherwise.

  • rexreddy

    The Christian thing to do is to make Mexico such a wonderful place, that the Mexicans have no reason to leave.But I thought all you commies on the left wanted to keep religion out of it? Huh,In the mean time we need to keep MS13 and all their competitors and Peeps on the other side of that boarder and send back the ones that are here.Those who come here legally should be fully welcomed.

  • DesScorp

    What the writers are proposing isn’t the fulfillment of Christian doctrine, but a perversion of it. We are indeed comanded to be compassionate and to be good hosts to guests. But we’re also commanded to be good citizens and to respect authorities. If you’re breaking laws and willfully bypassing the immigration system, you certainly aren’t respecting the law. The US has a fairly generous legal immigration system, so there’s no excuse for bypassing it.The authors are being fundamentally dishonest in their arguments here.

  • rwalsh00

    What does the Bible say about ‘bearing false witness’? This article clearly misrepresents the law.The authors state: ‘this law requires local law enforcement to inquire about a person’s legal immigration status if they think there is any suspicion or question regarding the person’s status.’However, the law simply DOES NOT say that. It says ‘reasonable suspicion’ not ‘ANY suspicion’ and it says there must be ‘lawful contact’ — not a random search as this implies. Verbatim from the law:B. FOR ANY LAWFUL CONTACT MADE BY A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL OR AGENCY

  • macholara

    Throw the Baby out with the Bathwater why don’tchya’???It’s sad that people take one article about this law, and immediately begin to throw the authors under the bus for all this other load of crap that this article has nothing to do.So for all you who are bringing healthcare, gay/lesbian, abortion, and other issues into this post, you’re wasting your time becauseA) this article is not about that, andStick to the topic, and post your comments on the article itself, not what you do or don’t think that the authors stance may or may not be on other issues.

  • queeniw06

    Leela Kidwell I would like to see the “DAY WITHOUT AMERICANS” not go to work and/or school, hold a ralley in there town. This is a challenge! On Friday, June 4, 2010. If you are an American, Please stay home and Relax! >

  • kert1

    I have a feeling this guys is just trying to allow more illegal immigration to occur, so that more of his people can come here illegally while congress drags their feet. I have good way to check. I would like someone who knows this guy to go to his Church and community and see how many illegals are harbored. See if they advised to fess up for their crime and apologize, or is it overlooked while they aid the criminals.Of course, we know as Christians, that we should always be compliance with the government. We should never be a part of crime, whether we are committing it or aiding. I think we’ll be able to tell from this man’s congregation whether he is about stopping illegal immigration or allowing it to continue undeterred. From the tone of his article, I’m not very optimistic.

  • macholara

    @KERT1Funny you’d mention that, being that Rev. Salguero is Puerto Rican and a US Citizen (perhaps even born in the US himself). “HIS” people (as you would put it) are also US Citizens.But your comments demonstrates the problem here. US Citizens have this “better-than-thou” mentality because we’re Citizens and they’re not. That’s preposterous.If you look at the context of the article, they’re not condoning more illegal immigration. If that’s what you got, then sadly, you missed their point. “We are calling on national and local leaders to lift their voices with us and say no to Arizona’s reactionary immigration law while pressing Congress for comprehensive immigration reform now.”Just because they do not like the Arizona law does not automatically equate them with wanting more illegal immigration. It’s there in black letters. They are urging people to press Congress for immigration reform.It’s sad that people cannot voice their opinions about issues and topics, because others automatically label them and misinterpret their views.

  • kert1

    Macholara,No, we as American citizens are not better than other citizens. We just posses certain rights that others don’t when in America. It’s called the law and you’ll find it pretty much everywhere. Why don’t you try going into another country illegally and see how you are treated?I know that they are “pressing Congress for comprehensive immigration reform now”, but I’m also not this naïve. People have been doing this for years but it is just another way to drag our feet and prevent anything from happening. Arizona’s law, while imperfect, will actually uphold state and federal law about immigration, something that is rarely done anywhere. Unfortunately, guys like this, hide behind racial profiling and the claims of injustice. Since when is it unjust to send an illegal immigrant back to their own country? Since when is it unjust to look for them so we can enforce our laws? In the end you neither answered my question nor did anything to discredit it. My point was, we can know a lot about this guy by looking at his congregation and community. Is he actually encouraging people to obey the laws, or is he harboring illegal immigrants and trying to get around the law? I honestly don’t know the truth, but from his article, he has given no signs he is actually trying to stem the constant flow of illegal immigration. The truth is, we don’t need new laws. We just need people to obey the ones we have. If people would stop harboring, hiring, and aiding illegal immigrants and then encourage them to turn themselves in and do things legally, the problem would go away in a couple years. Unfortunately there are enough corrupt people, I doubt this will ever happen without force.

  • DanielintheLionsDen

    Kert… would’a, could’a, should’a …… but the problem is still here …… why not just round up all 12 million of them, put them on freight cars, and ship’em out? … it didn’t work out too well for the Nazis …… but we’re different; we’re Americans; we can pull mass-settlement; we’re good …

  • reidh

    On the Contrary, the law is so very Christian. For the Lord himself said “…Or else how can one enter into a strong man’s house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.” and “No man can enter into a strong man’s house, and spoil his goods, except he will first bind the strong man; and then he will spoil his house.” So you see a law against any person(s) entering a man’s house is Just. And My country’s borders are and should be a deterant to those who would enter and spoil This house. That same one which Lincoln referred to when he said (as well as the lord before him)”..A House divided against itself, cannot stand.” Not only can it not stand, but gentlemen (and I use that term loosly, in your cases) It WILL NOT STAND, but for strong and secure borders and laws pertaining thereto. And I severly doubt that you are christians, as a real christian would not USE their faith as a political tool, like you are doing as well as Bush, and Rove etc. have done. It is low and cheap and shows that you count godliness to be merely $ gain, and are Liars. As Simon Magus, Ananias and Sephira et al.

  • hared

    The church can be viewed as anti-christian by some, so this all about politics, which the church should stay out of. Besides, religion is a personal matter.

  • blssd_2000

    As an American and a person who drives a car I am required to have a drivers license and show it whenever asked. Phoenix Arizona has the highest rate of kidnappings in the US, murders and crime are off the chart. The state is bankrupted for having to provide free medical, food etc. to people who don’t contribute to the economy. I am a Christian and give to the needy and help whenever I can. All of you who oppose this law take a few undocumented people and feed and clothe them, pay their medical bills, teach them to be independent and contribute as the rest of us do.

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The Three Most Surprising Things Jesus Said

Think you know Jesus? Some of his sayings may surprise you.

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Jesus, Bunnies, and Colored Eggs: An Explanation of Holy Week and Easter

So, Easter is a one-day celebration of Jesus rising from the dead and turning into a bunny, right? Not exactly.

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The End of Surveillance for New York Muslims — For Now

How American Muslims modeled the right response to systematic injustice.