Mary Daly & Catholic feminism

The recent passing of Boston College theologian Mary Daly merits a few words of tribute to this Catholic feminist and … Continued

The recent passing of Boston College theologian Mary Daly merits a few words of tribute to this Catholic feminist and a few questions about her contributions. Mary Daly was “in place” with a doctorate in theology and a faculty position at a prominent Catholic institution in 1966 when the full impact of the Second Vatican Council was working its way through the grass-roots of Catholic America. Surprising to her critics and satisfying to her supporters is the way everyday Catholics of 2010 accept premises once considered radical. (I recommend reading Joan Chittister’s insightful comments.)

Daly’s first important book, “The Church and the Second Sex” (Harper & Row, 1968) was about the systematic oppression of women in the Catholic Church. While it caused a major row in 1969 over tenure (she got it!), its statements seem unspectacularly obvious today. I think most of Catholic America has absorbed key principles of Daly’s scholarly production. Not only do we recognize her message that women are not given full opportunities within the Church; she gave us some reasons to explain why.

Daly insightfully tracked down the origins for the Church’s preference for males. It came from Hebrew anthropomorphizing of God as “Father,” that is, as a male parent, she wrote. While many world religions had goddesses, the Abrahamic tradition generally imaged the Divine only in male terms. That shaped the policy of allowing only men to be bishops and clergy in the Church, because, suggested Day, men were thought to be more like God than women. Hence, she concluded, the Catholic Church is built upon patriarchy.

A reader can agree with Daly’s general premise, of course, without swallowing whole every assertion she made. Daly was a theologian, whose job is to make people think about the implications of the faith. Her task was distinct from that of the hierarchy which is supposed to enforce doctrine. In retrospect, Daly’s challenging ideas have been softened by the passage of time.

Daly came up short, however, when it came to promoting an effective remedy for gender prejudice. For instance, should we now stop praying, “Our Father, Who art in Heaven….” and substitute, “Our Parent, Who art in Heaven…”? Keen on theological matters, she was nonetheless shortsighted about some historical causes of patriarchy. In the early Church, there were more 50-year old men than women leaders of that age. Improved health care during the19th century reduced mortality rates for women in childbirth, so only then did women begin to outnumber men. The laws of supply and demand do not excuse patriarchy, but they help explain traditions that were perhaps more pragmatic than blameworthy.

Daly made a substantial feminist contribution to academia’s vocabulary. Instead of “homocide” or “genocide” she gave us “Gyn/nocide.” Women were to “Re-member themselves,” reassembling the meaning of each of their organs and body parts without influence from patriarchy. It was important to teach “herstory” instead of “history,” to use “Mister-ectomy” to end “phallocracy.” If you like this kind of inventiveness, see Daly’s “Websters’ First New Intergalactic Wickedary of the English Language” with Jane Caputi. In my experience, however, many such neologisms are scarcely ever used by ordinary Catholics. When people in the pews finally hear such vocabulary, women often smile, while men usually scowl.

Daly can be faulted, I think, for eventually allowing her personality to obfuscate her message. She described herself as a “radical lesbian feminist” and as “post-Christian”, terms that allowed some critics to unfairly dismiss all she said. Refusing to permit male students into her classroom as a form of revenge for centuries of oppression of women was also a misstep. When taken to court it was declared a violation of civil rights by Daly and eventually led to her “retirement.”

In my opinion, Daly allowed some of her feminism to degenerate into “anti-masculinism.” It was a way of fighting fire with fire, but two wrongs do not make a right. It would be better, I think, to remember her for how she made Catholic feminism into a widening of Catholic humanism. We need more of that.

(Read more on Roman Catholic leadership/clergy at Patheos.com.)

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Anthony M. Stevens-Arroyo Anthony M. Stevens-Arroyo is Professor Emeritus of Puerto Rican and Latino Studies at Brooklyn College and Distinguished Scholar of the City University of New York.
  • ccnl1

    If only some guy would have sent Mary Daly a dozen roses when she turned 21!!!

  • thebump

    One of the most preposterous sentences I’ve stumbled upon in quite a while: “I recommend reading Joan Chittister’s insightful comments.”Equally preposterous is the assertion that “everyday Catholics” today “accept premises” promulgated by Woodstock-era wymynyst crackpots like Daly, Chittister etc.

  • Nymous

    It’s enough that she agitated the conversation out of the “this is the way it should be” rut of gender exclusion in the religion. However the author is right in that she made a lot of mistakes with gender oriented antipathy.

  • frharry

    “If only some guy would have sent Mary Daly a dozen roses when she turned 21!!!”Yes, that would clearly have solved everything. What an absurd comment. Precisely the kind of mindlessness that Daly was so good at skewering.

  • ccnl1

    Some more words of wisdom for the friends of Mary Daly:From below, on top, backwards, forwards, from this side of the Moon and from the other side too, gay sexual activity is still mutual masturbation caused by one or more complex sexual defects. Some defects are visually obvious in for example the complex maleness of Mary Daly?, DeGeneres, Billy Jean King and Rosie O’Donnell. Of course not all having these abnormal tendencies, show it outwardly as alluded to in the following synopsis:From Wikipedia:” No simple cause for sexual orientation has been conclusively demonstrated, and there is no scientific consensus as to whether the contributing factors are primarily biological or environmental. Many think both play complex roles.[1][2] The American Academy of Pediatrics and the American Psychological Association have both stated that sexual orientation probably has multiple causes.[3][4] Research has identified several biological factors which may be related to the development of a heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual orientation. These include genes, prenatal hormones, and brain structure. Conclusive proof of a biological cause of sexual orientation would have significant political and cultural implications. [5]“And yes indeed even a dozen roses would not change said defect!!!

  • usapdx

    Why does so much of Hebrews past is one of the main parts of the RCC fondation? Most of the RCC members are not of this culture.Thoes that had the final say of what gospels whould be in the bible could have done a better job and Ambrose was a good exsample who should of been put out with his statement,” if you have this book, do not read it, burn it”. That the way to analyze.

  • anotherreader

    I enjoyed this article, as someone who is a professional religious scholar. Daly indeed made many contributions. What I find funny is that the most obvious of her contributions while she was still in her reform period would be that to alter the “Our Father” to “Our Parent” is only a middle step for her 21st century readers. “Our Mother” is also representative of a God/Godde who loves, cherishes and mothers us, particularly for Christians who recognize the passionate mothering love Jesus showed the world.

  • CAC2

    I went to 12 years of Catholic schools, and then to a small women’s college, and then to grad school at a large, coed university. There is a HUGE difference in dynamic in a classroom filled with all young women than in a classroom of both genders. Young women, even into their late teens and early 20′s, usually will not engage in spirited discussions or take intellectual risks with young men around. And young men often dominate classroom interactions either with wise cracks or with a proprietary intellectual attitude. By the time I was in grad school, I think that gender dynamics “equalled out” and gender took a back seat in the classroom. But single-sex education during adolescence is not “revenge”, it’s a way to offer young women the best advantage in the classroom. Which, as long as there are neanderthals such as CCNL1 around (even though, with a remark like that it seems unlikely he has spent much time in a classroom), is a very good thing.

  • DoTheRightThing

    It comes as no surprise that Stevens-Arroyo lauds such a divisive, heretical person.

  • S8thRd

    It is impossible to be “Catholic” and “Post-Christian” at the same time. If she was “Post-Christian,” she was, by definition, not a “Catholic feminist” as the writer identifies her. Perhaps a “formerly Catholic feminist.”

  • danminter

    Let this be a lesson to all Catholics. Don’t get your religion from the Washington Post because there will be a spin, and it won’t be one that is in communion with the Church and it’s holy saints. Let me be clear, Mary Daly was a heretic. Thats not mean, it is calling a spade a spade. To be in Communion with the Church; a church that gives more credit to women and their God given role in this world than any other faith, one does not spread hate and question the very basis of a church established by our Lord who was the Word made flesh. How many women have been canonized? How many women have held prominent roles in the Catholic church—answer: countless numbers—every mother, sister, daughter that believes that Jesus is God and that his most blessed mother is the Queen of Heaven. When will people wake up and realize that we live to fulfill the will of God, and any corruption of the intent of that will is indeed heretical?

  • questquecest

    At the time she wrote, there were few others with Daly’s background and intellect to critique christianity as well as she. Hers was the feminist analysis of christianity that paralleled other critique in feminist discourse, in art, literature and social science in the second wave of feminism. Her work is as important in that context as it is in the catholic world. The homophobes on this comment line are unfortunately still alive while she has passed.

  • macroom2

    In almost every country in the world women live longer than men and men are several times more likely to be incarcerated, murdered and addicts/alcoholics. Everyone who complains about the oppression of women should discuss these facts in his or her analysis/discussion.

  • ccnl1

    CAC2,Hmmm, “mutual masturbation” (as practiced by Mary Daly?) is a rather common phrase. Search it in Google and you will get 1,470,000 hits.And BTW, I went to Catholic schools for 12 years and college/grad school for nine years getting a BS, MS and PhD in the fields of science and engineering.

  • tmasearch1

    The Catholic Church is a sacrmanetal church, built on the sacraments and especially the Eucharist. When an entire group of members, constituting one half of the membership is prohibited from performing those sacraments, that group is an underclasss, and of a lower order than the rest. All the hot air about Mary’s exalted place and the respect and station women hold in the church is just that- a lot of hot air.

  • pgibson1

    Just another case of erosion/change of the church at the hands of ….men.is it any wonder the world looks at your religion with so much scepticism.God did not, then, actually create the church so much as men, and now women, were and are now there to morph it into something new, something that appeals….But it’s not been that same church ever since people got involved, and changed it according to “earthly” will.and I laugh at your lack of spine, men or women.Evidence that the church, and probably GOD were invented by people, and God was not an actual player in our lives so much as people are.

  • ccnl1

    Poor Coloradog, he/she was supposedly abused by a priest. But was he/she? Records? References? Maybe he/she simply had a bad dream??

  • DaMan2

    She just sounds like a wack job loser. Why are you wasting ink on her?

  • persiflage

    CCNL posts the following for the 200th time, conservatively:’From below, on top, backwards, forwards, from this side of the Moon and from the other side too, gay sexual activity is still mutual masturbation caused by one or more complex sexual defects. Some defects are visually obvious in for example the complex maleness of Mary Daly?, DeGeneres, Billy Jean King and Rosie O’Donnell. Of course not all having these abnormal tendencies, show it outwardly as alluded to in the following synopsis….and so on…..and then: ‘And BTW, I went to Catholic schools for 12 years and college/grad school for nine years getting a BS, MS and PhD in the fields of science and engineering.’ Such complete nonsense goes to show that all that Catholic education and/or higher learning did little to change an entrenched behavior disorder, but the former has had a considerable influence in shaping an assortment of skewed values – and even visual perceptions of the world around us i.e. only CCNL has vision acute enough to perceive ‘male’ hormones in the faces of female celebrities (who have all openly and publicly declared their sexual preferences, BTW). In this case, evident OCD and a preoccupation with the sexual preference of others seems to originate in the biochemistry of the individual, and greatly exacerbated by many years of Catholic indoctrination….one never escapes the prejudices inherent in their roots altogether. The nature vs nurture argument is clearly still an open question – but one can certainly enhance the proclivities of the other, as we see here.

  • rossacpa

    Since at least 1981-82, when I served on a nonprofit board with Prof. Daly, she had ceased to identify herself as Catholic. She preferred to call herself “post-Christian,” and I think we ought to respect her choice. It makes her almost tolerable in small doses.CCNL: I am tired reading your crap and your claims. Your “cut & paste” method of making an argument suggests you are someone that never finished their undergraduate degree, and cannot make the type of reasoned analysis that graduate work would have taught you to construct. Put up or shut up!

  • ccnl1

    Ahh, Persiflage and his/her regurgitated complaints. One wonders what he or she will be reincarnated as.

  • ccnl1

    Rossacpa,Once again to honor the First Amendment:Hmmm, “mutual masturbation” (as practiced by Mary Daly?) is a rather common phrase. Search it in Google and you will get 1,470,000 hits.And BTW, I went to Catholic schools for 12 years and college/grad school for nine years getting a BS, MS and PhD in the fields of science and engineering. And as an added note, my technical team in industry were awarded six US patents.

  • persiflage

    CCNL rhapsodizes us with his/her usual braggadocio:’And as an added note, my technical team in industry were awarded six US patents.’But said patents haven’t done a thing to change an obsessive persona. Apparently the proper technology is still lacking, so it’s back to the drawing board. As an aside, personal values are based on emotional health (or lack thereof) and overall psychic well-being, and have little to do with cognitive assets and corporate accomplishments. Continuous and obsessive fault-finding based on deeply held prejudices is hardly the sign of a well-integrated personality. The constant obsessing over posters with alleged ‘multiple aliases’ is another case in point. Who cares?? CCNL, that’s who. Reincarnation may be the only solution….

  • ccnl1

    Ahh, Pesiflage, never-ending Buddha promoter or is he/she simply another alias for Farnaz, the professed Jewish atheist? Hmmm??No one, not even my words of “braggadocio” should be taken as “gospel” since this is an anonymous blog and nothing is necessarily the truth when in comes to unreferenced material. But better to be unreferenced than being killed by some Islamic nut-job who cannot tolerate any criticism of their hallucinating, womanizing, warmongering founder!!! Hmmm, could it be Persiflage was Mohammed in one of his/her stages of rebirth? Why not!!!

  • ccnl1

    And by the way, gay sexual activity aka mutual maturbation, apparently practiced by one Mary Daly, is considered by heterosexuals as being “quite yucky”!!!And as noted previously:Hmmm lets see, in gay sexual activity, who plays the guy and who plays the gal? Who is on top and who is on the bottom? A coin flip? To say the least, an unusual situation. Then there are those “made in China” toys/strap-ons. Lets hope the FDA has checked them for lead and other toxic components. And do said “toys” come with sanitizers and/or sterilization instructions????

  • persiflage

    ‘Ahh, Pesiflage, never-ending Buddha promoter or is he/she simply another alias for Farnaz, the professed Jewish atheist? Hmmm??’An idiotic remark but not surprising, given the history….it could be time to roll out the anti-psychotic meds. This global paranoia is becoming reminiscent of that other ‘engineer’, Spidermean. So what’s up with engineers??

  • ccnl1

    Persiflage, Persiflage, Persiflage,We engineers (minus Spidermean) control the controllable world!!! Deal with it!!!We even design strap-on-toys for “mutual masturbators” like Mary Daly and her partners. Google Search Results 1 – 10 of about 1,480,000 for “mutual masturbation”. (0.32 seconds)

  • persiflage

    ‘We engineers (minus Spidermean) control the controllable world!!! Deal with it!!!’So shouldn’t you be building a bridge or otherwise doing something truly constructive? Just a thought…..

  • ccnl1

    Persiflage, Persiflage, Persiflage,I built my “bridges” and they are still standing. Now I am retired and have dedicated some of my free time to freeing people’s minds of the millennia of religious mumbo-jumbo and also correcting the recent mischaracterization of gay sexual unions aka mutual masturbation unions as somehow being akin to marriage. Lots of luck in your next life!!!

  • persiflage

    CCNL, keep in mind that your handle of CONCERNED CHRISTIAN NOW LIBERATED is an oxymoron and a violation of the rules of logic, by your own standards – since you can’t be both at the same time. Who in their right mind is going to follow the 2nd hand philosophy of an obscure, itinerant/illiterate Jewish preacher whose ‘mystical’ declarations have been forever lost to posterity?? And Christianity is by no means a ‘civil’ religion. Dominic Crossan is no Christian, by any standard that defines Christianity. He is a married academic and he does not represent a ‘brand’ nor a sect of Christianity. He is not a ‘concerned Christian now liberated’ but is a heretic by Vatican standards. The liberated person needs none of this and is not allied with any religion – although respecting the philosophical insights inherent in certain religions is not without merit. For example, while respecting certain tenets of Buddhism, I’m not a Buddhist nor do I participate in Buddhist events/activities – so it’s hard to understand why you still call yourself a Christian……..are you being hypocritical or is church merely a venue for social activity? Or does your wife make you go?? These are valid questions for a person that makes the continuous anti-religion pronouncements that you make – all the while remaining an unknown entity, like most every other poster here. What difference if a person has one ID, or a dozen?? I think you need another alias for real legitimacy. Why wait for the next lifetime?

  • ccnl1

    Persiflage, Persiflage, Persiflage,To the best of my knowledge, Professor Crossan has not been excommunicted by the Vatican. And he got permission to leave the priesthood and subsequently got married. And Professor Crossan is still a Christian. I also consider myself a Christian but as with him, truth wins, the Vatican loses. You might want to read some of the Professor’s books and also check his website for his speaking schedule which includes many speeches before Christian groups.And from the On Faith list of rules:1. You agree not to submit inappropriate content. Inappropriate content includes any content that: The last two rules cover why I do not have multiple IDs as some on this blog do e.g. Farnaz.One assumes that “mutual masturbation” does not offend you. If so, simply check Google to see that is a well-used and defined, biological term. And again, the best of luck in your next life.

  • emonty

    Hmmm…After reviewing the rules for posting it would seem that CCNL manges to violate most of them while demonstrating his dislike for gays. I think all the other readers understood his point long ago.

  • ccnl1

    Emonty, Emonty, Emonty,I reiterate for “newbies” and for those who need to have their neurons refreshed.And please be specific as to how I violate blog rules.

  • coloradodog

    By ccnl1′s logic, there were no victims of gay pedophiles in the Catholic clergy.Anal rape by his definition was simply “mutual masturbation” or maybe they all “simply had bad dreams”

  • emonty

    CCNLI am just one ‘emonty’; you don’t have to say it three times. Just read the rules about objectionable material. I could cut and paste, but many readers find that annoying.

  • emonty

    ‘CCNL, keep in mind that your handle of CONCERNED CHRISTIAN NOW LIBERATED is an oxymoron and a violation of the rules of logic, by your own standards – since you can’t be both at the same time. ‘THAT’s what is stand for! I thought it was “Concerned Christian Now Looney” which would make much more sense.

  • persiflage

    ‘And Professor Crossan is still a Christian. I also consider myself a Christian but as with him, truth wins, the Vatican loses’Thomas Baum couldn’t have said it better, but he is a genuine Christian and Catholic, whether one agrees with him or not. Faux Christians apparently enjoy the ritual of pomp and circumstance without being burdened by the dogma …. an interesting approach to religious practice. What you’re saying is that you and D. Crossan have created a Christian cult of sorts, with a fully human Jesus as your quasi-mythical role model, and no PhD needed! Curiously, your endless attempts to proselytize on behalf of your own beliefs and point of view are driven by a kind of peculiar messianism. I think most posters understand that. And there are fundamental differences between yourself and Prof. Crossan of course. His being a religous scholar of considerable academic accomplishment very likely helps to inform his secularly charged and socially liberal politics. I imagine him to be a true humanist in the classic sense of the word, and I expect his work in Chicago probably reflects this fact. Obviously his former priestly role and consequent separation from the Church along with his non-doctrinaire views make him something of an apostate, by definition. I wonder if he receives communion? And yourself?? But do I need to post his views on homosexuality again to show where and how they differ from the CCNL view? Probably not. I suspect he’d be aghast to see the rancorous stuff you write with regard to gayness and gay issues in general. It’s probable that experts in comparative religion are the least likely people to be religious in any conventional sense. They also tend not to entertain the hyper-conservative political views of a CONCERNED CHRISTIAN NOW LIBERATED, nor do they dwell overly much on the negative consequences of religion in society, to the exclusion of any/all constructive contributions. All things considered, I don’t think you and Dominic Crossan really have very much in common. PS. Your snide comments notwithstanding, I do have one of his books, but haven’t read it. Christianity just doesn’t capture my interest in a big way.And we still don’t know beyond a doubt if there ever was a real Jesus of Nazareth. But go ahead and believe…have a little faith.

  • ccnl1

    Emonty, Emonty, Emonty,The blog rules were listed previously.I am sure you can simply copy each one followed by how I violated each one. And my Chriatian beliefs are a partial blend those of many contemporary NT and historic Jesus exegetes i.e. Professors Crossan, Borg, Fredriksen, Schillebeeckx, Chilton, Luke Johnson, Raymond Brown, NT Wright and Lüdemann. Four of these are on the On Faith panel.

  • areyousaying

    ccnl1 wrote:Poor Coloradog, he/she was supposedly abused by a priest. But was he/she? Records? References? Maybe he/she simply had a bad dream??Are you saying your “partial blend” of Christianity thinks those molested “simply had a bad dream??”

  • ccnl1

    Areyousaying,Of course not!!! I am saying this is an anonymous blog and without proper referencing about any facts, you cannot believe anything noted to include Coloradodog’s “experiences”.

  • ccnl1

    POSSIBLY THE LAST HURRAH!!As most of you know, Farnaz has used many aliases on this blog. I (and others) have presented evidence to this activity many, many times but to no avail as the management of this blog refuses to take action. Instead they have banned my comments on just about every column whereas Farnaz and her “friends” continue to violate blog rules.The reality of Islam also appears not to faze the On Faith management even though the horror and terror of Islam is taken directly from the koran, the worst book ever written. Such reminders of horror and terror fill the pages of the Washington Post every day but those who criticize this so called “religion” also get banned from commenting on columns written by Islamics or those working for Georgetown U who sold its soul to Islam for $20 million. How sad and disturbing to have this happen in a supposedly free country. And please review the salaries and financial dealings of many of the guest voices who have founded non-profits. Said salaries are on-line via the IRS 990 forms. My expose of these salaries and financial dealings also apparently was another reason for my banning. Unbelievable for a newspaper in a free country to limit free speech and truth!!!Schaum

  • emonty

    CCNLOk, I just copied from one of your posts criticizing another.-is obscene, pornographic, or sexually explicit I know you will make some little remarks about this not being true, but what I read, there might be some agreement from other posters.

  • ccnl1

    Emonty, Emonty, Emonty,What you are really saying is that you have no specific violations of blog rules that you can list!!! Get back to us when you can.

  • emonty

    CCNL, CCNL, CCNL,I would have thought you could just scroll down, but here you go.We even design strap-on-toys for “mutual masturbators” like Mary Daly and her partners. Google Search Results 1 – 10 of about 1,480,000 for “mutual masturbation”. (0.32 seconds) gay sexual activity is still mutual masturbation caused by one or more complex sexual defects.But better to be unreferenced than being killed by some Islamic nut-job who cannot tolerate any criticism of their hallucinating, womanizing, warmongering founder!!!Hmmm lets see, in gay sexual activity, who plays the guy and who plays the gal? Who is on top and who is on the bottom? A coin flip? To say the least, an unusual situation. Then there are those “made in China” toys/strap-ons. Lets hope the FDA has checked them for lead and other toxic components. And do said “toys” come with sanitizers and/or sterilization instructions???? I think a reasonable person might consider those insulting or demeaning of someone’s sexual orientation or religious preference. You accuse others of breaking the rules and decry the Post’s refusl to enforce them. Considering the examples I have listed from yours, perhaps you should be glad they don’t enforce their own rules.Now I will post, and you will deny, and the dance will continue. Although we read and study many of the same authors (quoted in another post of yours) I did not even realize until recently you claimed to be a Christian. Hard to tell from your diatribes.

  • coloradodog

    Like may right-wing “Conservative Christian” disciples of Dick Cheney, ccnl1 thinks he is entitled to be “above the law” in reporting offensive comments of others while posting the same himself, to wit:We evmasturbators” like Mary Daly and her partners. Google Search Results 1 – 10 of about 1,480,000 for “mutual masturbation”. (0.32 seconds)gay sexual activity is still mutual masturbation caused by one or more complex sexual defects.But better to be unreferenced than being killed by some Islamic nut-job who cannot tolerate any criticism of their hallucinating, womanizing, warmongering founder!!!Hmmm lets see, in gay sexual activity, who plays the guy and who plays the gal? Who is on top and who is on the bottom? A coin flip? To say the least, an unusual situation. Then there are those “made in China” toysen design strap-on-toys for “mutual /strap-ons. Lets hope the FDA has checked them for lead and other toxic components. And do said “toys” come with sanitizers and/or sterilization instructions???? Thanks to this “love sampler” from ccnl1 posted by Emonty, these offensive comments from ccnl1 have now been reported.

  • coloradodog

    ccnl1 wrote:”No doubt this will be my last note on this blog….”We should have been so lucky. So let’s compile a neurotic, paranoid, senile fairy-tale list of ccnl1′s “aliases”Anyone who thinks Farnaz and Whistler could be one in the same has BDS (Bush Delusional Syndrome

  • emonty

    CCNLAnd the dance goes on!

  • ccnl1

    Emonty, Emonty, Emonty,Au contraire, it is you who does not have enough information about gay sexual activity i.e. mutual masturbation although you have to admit you are appear to be learning although I have no specific reference to support that conclusion.

  • coloradodog

    Poor ccnl1, he/she supposedly has a Phd. But does he/she? Records? References? Maybe he/she simply had a wet dream??

  • emonty

    CC,CC,CCWhy would I want to learn about gay sex. Nice difeersion form the original topic by the way. It was, if you’ll recall, the possibly that you might, at least in the view of others if not yourself, to be just as guilty of violating rules as you accuse others of being.

  • emonty

    Sorry for all the typos; that’s what you get for multi-tasking on a Friday afternoon. Have a good weekend all, in my time zone and job it’s time to go!

  • ccnl1

    Coloradodog, now you understand about commenting on anonymous blogs. Happy referencing to you!!!! And of course all of your previous comments about teaching in Mexico, being abused by a priest(s), being a former Catholic etc. have all been red flagged as possibly being untrue making your ranting about anything very suspect. Farnaz and her “friends” and some of your “fondest” critics suffer from the same anonymous syndrome of unsubstiated stories with her constant, contrived rants against anti-semitism i.e. being chased out of Iran, kids being beat up by Catholic girls and on and on.

  • coloradodog

    ccnl1 wrote”"And of course all of your previous comments about teaching in Mexico, being abused by a priest(s), being a former Catholic etc. have all been red flagged as possibly being untrue making your ranting about anything very suspect.”"Red flagged” by whom? The weak propagandist always always uses the passive voice without a responsible agent. By you? ?y que me importa?ccnl1 is an over-educated, elitist, Catholic pensioner man/woman who suffers from senility and who has been characterized anywhere from the paranoid to a neurotic character from his Catholic upbringing and education. Analysis of ccnl1′s post’s by many contemporary “On Faith” bloggers have concluded that only about 30% of ccnl1′s sayings and ways noted in “On Faith” are authentic – the rest being embellishments (e.g. pontifications/hallucinations) made/had by His/Her Holy Excellency to insult various Christian, Jewish, Muslim and Pagan sects as well as gays and feminists.

  • coloradodog

    ccnl1 wrote:”For all we know he/she is a Muslim.”And if I were?”for those eyes that have not seen”:ccnl1 is an over-educated, elitist, Catholic pensioner man/woman who suffers from delusional senility and symptoms of Alzheimer’s as evidenced by his incessant cutting and pasting the same thing over and over again; and who has been characterized anywhere from the paranoid to a neurotic character from his/her Catholic upbringing and education. Analyses of ccnl1′s posts by many contemporary “On Faith” bloggers have concluded that only about 30% of ccnl1′s sayings and ways noted in “On Faith” are authentic – the rest being embellishments (e.g. pontifications/hallucinations) made/had by His/Her Holy Excellency to insult various Christian, Jewish, Muslim and Pagan sects as well as gays and feminists.

  • ccnl1

    God bless/forgive Coloradodog whomever he/she is!!! But what god should we invoke? Hmmm, Allah or the Horned God of Wicca???en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horned_God

  • coloradodog

    God bless/forgive Coloradodog whomever he/she is!!! But what god should we invoke? Hmmm, Allah or the Horned God of Wicca???Thank you, ccnl1 for asking for blessings and forgiveness from you god, whoever he/she may be.Interesting you naturally assume we all pay allegiance, like you, to some fairy-tale deity in the sky.

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“Religion and sex are tracking each other like never before,” says sociologist Mark Regnerus.

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The Internet Is Not Killing Religion. So What Is?

Why is religion in decline in the modern world? And what can save it?

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Why I Want to Be Culturally Evangelical

I’ve lost my faith. Do I have to lose my heritage, too?

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What Is a Saint?

How the diversity of saintly lives reveals multiple paths toward God.

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An Ayatollah’s Gift to Baha’is, Iran’s Largest Religious Minority

An ayatollah offers a beautiful symbolic gesture against a backdrop of violent persecution.

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Cleaner, Lighter, Closer

What’s a fella got to do to be baptized?

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Magical Thinking and the Canonization of Two Popes

Why Pope Francis is canonizing two popes for all of the world wide web to see.

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Pope Francis: Stop the Culture of Waste

What is the human cost of our tendency to throw away?

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“Sometimes You Find Something Quiet and Holy”: A New York Story

In a hidden, underground sanctuary, we were all together for a few minutes in this sweet and holy mystery.

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Mary Magdalene, the Closest Friend of Jesus

She’s been ignored, dismissed, and misunderstood. But the story of Easter makes it clear that Mary was Jesus’ most faithful friend.

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From Passover to Easter: Why I’m Grateful to be Jewish, Christian, and Alive

Passover with friends. Easter with family. It’s almost enough to make you believe in God.

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Top 10 Reasons We’re Glad A Catholic Colbert Is Taking Over Letterman’s “Late Show”

How might we love Stephen Colbert as the “Late Show” host? Let us count the ways.

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God’s Not Dead? Why the Good News Is Better than That

The resurrection of Jesus is not a matter of private faith — it’s a proclamation for the whole world.

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The Three Most Surprising Things Jesus Said

Think you know Jesus? Some of his sayings may surprise you.

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Jesus, Bunnies, and Colored Eggs: An Explanation of Holy Week and Easter

So, Easter is a one-day celebration of Jesus rising from the dead and turning into a bunny, right? Not exactly.