Ahmadinejad Denial

By Marvin Hierfounder and dean, Simon Wiesenthal Center Once again, on the eve of his departure to New York to … Continued

By Marvin Hier
founder and dean, Simon Wiesenthal Center

Once again, on the eve of his departure to New York to deliver a speech Wednesday at the United Nations General Assembly, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad thumbed his nose at the world by declaring the Holocaust “A lie based on an improbable and mythical claim.” His remarks drew universal condemnation, led by Germany’s Foreign Minister, Frank-Walter Steinmeier, who called Iran’s President, “a disgrace to his country” and the EU, which accused him of “encouraging anti-semitism and hatred.”

Which brings us to the larger question: What kind of reception will Ahmadinejad get at the General Assembly? Will the presidents and prime ministers and their delegations inside the hall put his Holocaust denial aside and opt for the pragmatic role of just sitting and respectfully listening to his speech> Or will they find the courage to get up and walk out, demonstrating that there must be consequences for such tyranny?

Unfortunately, history is replete with examples where pragmatic reasoning prevented us from confronting tyrants and oppressors.

In 1936, Adolf Hitler already had a stained reputation. A year earlier, he had promulgated the Nuremberg Laws, which deprived Jews of their citizenship and isolated them from German society. His Propaganda Minister, Josef Goebbels, convinced him that it was in Germany’s best interest to do everything to bring the Olympics to Berlin. This, he argued, would enable Hitler to showcase the Third Reich to an international audience. Hitler agreed and, in a few weeks in August during the games, the streets of Nazi Germany were free of anti-Semitic posters and newspapers limited their attacks on Jews.

Forty-nine countries were sold on the pragmatic approach. They overlooked Hitler’s racist crimes and rushed to the Berlin Games, bringing with them prominent businessmen from around the world, who wound up praising the accomplishments of Hitler’s Reich.

Which led Frederick Birchalls, of The New York Times, to write then that the Olympics put the Nazis “back in the fold of nations,” and even made them “more human again.” That’s what we do when we provide a platform and sit there and listen to Ahmadinejad – we bestow legitimacy on him and his regime.

Tragically, that policy of pragmatism was never available to the victims of Nazism. In 1938, a few months after Kristallnacht, the parents of Eric Lucas who lived on the border of Germany sent their young 9-year-old son to safety in England. Despite repeated attempts to get a Visa to join him there, they were unable to do so and perished in the Holocaust. Before being deported to the death camps, they wrote their son a final letter, which said in part, “We shall never see you again, was there no space in the whole wide world for us two old people…. Was there nobody who could have helped….”

The Supreme Leader and Ahmadinejad are betting their future on that same pragmatism, on the unwillingness of President Obama and the Europeans to act decisively against them. On their ability to again divide the major powers by announcing, at the last minute, that they’re again open to dialogue on the nuclear issue, providing Russia and China just enough of a carrot for them to attempt to delay any crushing sanctions that would be voted against Iran.

Speaking at his swearing in ceremony Ahmadinejad said of his critics, “They said they would recognize the election but will not congratulate. Nobody in Iran is waiting for anyone’s congratulations.” Ahmadinejad is absolutely right. The regime is not looking for praise from the President of the United States – what it is counting on is his stubbornness and insistence to pursue dialogue with them at any costs.

But what would the millions who perished at Auschwitz and Maidanek say about those who flock into a hall to listen to a demagogue? They would probably paraphrase the question that Eric Lucas’ parents posed: Why was there no space in the whole wide world for us? And why is there always a place at the table for the likes of an Ahmadinejad?

Marvin Hier is founder and dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center.

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  • ccnl1

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  • ccnl1

    What should be said at the opening of the UN conference before Ahmadinejad speaks:(For those eyes that have not seen)Mohammed was an illiterate, womanizing, lust and greed-driven, warmongering, hallucinating Arab, who also had embellishing/hallucinating/plagiarizing scribal biographers who not only added “angels” and flying chariots to the koran but also a militaristic agenda to support the plundering and looting of the lands of non-believers. This agenda continues as shown by the massacre in Mumbai, the assassinations of Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh, the conduct of the seven Muslim doctors in the UK, the 9/11 terrorists, the 24/7 Sunni suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the 24/7 Shiite suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the Islamic bombers of the trains in the UK and Spain, the Bali crazies, the Kenya crazies, the Pakistani “koranics”, the Palestine suicide bombers/rocketeers, the Lebanese nutcases, the Taliban nut jobs, and the Filipino “koranics”.Current crises:The Sunni-Shiite blood feud and the warmongering, womanizing (11 wives), hallucinating founder.

  • bloglady

    M.H.:I’m in my early 50′s, and As very young lad, me Twin and I thought it ‘PROPER’ to pray on knees at bed-side and when we got up. And when we went to [Secular] school we would all goosebumply sing the pledge of allegiance to the U.S. flag. But in our hearts it was also the Israeli flag that we sang to too.In a way; it was like praying 3-times a day, instead of praying 5 or 6 times a day like the Islamic Ummah must do. Which personally is a big waste of Time; Hence why islam is backwards; but want to steal our, not their technology’s, since they loose/lost so much time. Add-up 15 minutes X 5 X 365 X average life of say 70 years and see how much productivity, opportunity, knowledge… is lost or could’ve been gained?But as I naturally became UN-Illusioned or un-Dillusioned and slowly aware of me Human reality it was then that I started to ESCAPE my “Jewish” Superstitions of which I Misled meself to believe in, as if REAL. Angels this; Highway to heaven that., Talking burning bush, spliting water etc.. But what stopped me [from Believing] most was when I questioned The TEN COMMANDMENTS. When I became a SCOUT realized Humans do not need to be reminded to be “GOOD” (after a certain age), Do not “STEEL” nor “COVET” (or be Jealous of) etc.. My Parents, worked like dogs, attended the Synogogue (which was demolished under Secular NYC Emminent Domain Laws) It looked like King Solomons Temple; only on the ‘High Holy Day’ of YOMKIPPUR [Attonement|w/Fasting], but on Jewish New Years [Rosh|HEADaSHANNA|YEAR] it is/was considerred a ‘Blessing’ to listen to the sound of the “SHOFAR”|RAMSHORN TRUMPET] until closing.Yet Today; I’m still conscious of YOMKIPPUR and I don’t need a headscarve anymore to remind me or Do Tiffilin in the Morning or wear Tzitziks on undergowns to remind one of Our-Reality [LIFE is a Miracle and not a Sin to be here today]. So I thank my Anscestors for being Strong/smart and good or lucky Survivors., hence Why we are here today. So YOMKIPPUR reminds me of the HOLOCAUST; and since I and me siblings never had the joy to enjoy, kiss, touch, love, hugg with Natural Grandparents, uncles/aunts or even Cousins; Unlike big-mouth “AH-MAD-MAN-OF-JIHAD”, Irans Islamic finatic President whom also married a 9 year old girl like his Ayotollah boss’s, who enjoy their Entire-Family structure today & hath been enjoying what that “Catholic’ christian HITLER [Irans Buddy, not only E. Orthodox christian STALIN; and whom Canaanites helped during WW2] unjustly took away but is Satanically still in Denial That it [Shoah] happened.My Father [May He & Family Rest in Peace] told me how Germans, French & Italians would congreagte on Sundays; Pray, Sing & swallow the Eucharists and then go outside and jump-start the Annihillation of a religious-naive & defencless & trapped HUMANITY!

  • cyber-man

    Bloglady;Farnaz1Mansour1;What a beautifull mind (cuoop) you both have.

  • cyber-man

    “When one listens, like music to the sound of the “SHOFAR” and the sounds of the DOVES, and has a taste that SABRA, then I know I’m in HEAVEN!”- Yacov Yosifovitch

  • Farnaz1Mansouri1

    Okay, so there are racist morons like Traficant among the Catholics. BIGGgggg surprises. Didn’t I say as much in my post?Here’s the thing. While I support your efforts to combat all forms of racism regardless against whom they’re directed, your method is not mine. Frankly, two thousand years have amply demonstrated that discussions with boars are generally unsuccessful. One gets out of their way, or one takes aim.The Iranian clown will be at the UN, Rabbi? And where will you be? Will I be? Will the millions of Jews, antiracists, be? Should we not be there as well, Rabbi? Should we not be listening to another brand of speech?Protest, rabbi, is not handled via discussion alone. What is there to discuss? Read this blog from time to time. You’ve seen antisemitism on a daily basis, right here in the good old US of A. How do you fight a conflagration? One that’s been burning for two thousand years?

  • CalSailor

    Dear Farnaz and other Jews posting here:Lots of Christians read Paul’s letters (right now Romans chapter 12, with its call to obey the government, is popular) but chapters 9-11 have become very meaningful and precious to me. It talks about the relation of the Christian community to that of the Jewish. And Paul says in Chapter 11:I am an apostle to the Gentiles…Their rejection [of Jesus as Messiah among the Jews] is the reconciliation of the world…If the part of the dough offered as first fruits is holy then the whole batch is holy; and if the root is holy, then the branches also are holy. If some of the branches were broken off, and you [the Gentiles; ie, us Christians], a wild olive shoot, were grafted in their place to share the rich root of the olive tree, do not boast over the branches. If you do boast, remember, that it is not you that support the root, but the root that supports you…for if you have been cut from what is a wild olive tree and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will those natural branches be grafted back into their own olive tree. So that you may not claim to be wiser than you are, brothers and sisters, I want you to understand this mystery: a hardening has come upon part of Israel, until the full number of Gentiles has come in. And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written, Out of Zion will come the Deliverer, he will banish ungodliness from Jacob, and this is my covenant with them, when I take away their sins. As regards the gospel they are enemies of God for your sake, but as regards election they are beloved, for the sake of their ancestors; for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.Paul here is strongly cautionary as to Christian attitudes toward the Jews: It is by God’s grace that through the Jews, Christians have become part of the ancient stock of His chosen people. It is not for us to boast; it is a mystery, as Paul says, that in God’s own plan, Jews and Christians will be saved together, for God’s call and his plan is irrevocable.How as a Christian, can I hate the Jews? They (you) are my elder brothers and sisters in God’s family. Through you, I, a Gentile, have become part of the chosen people. I am part of the wild branch that has been grafted into the strong root of his people. How it appears to us at this time is not how it appears to God in his time. God’s election is unchanging and irrevocable. My own Christian faith depends on this understanding of his choosing of Israel. If his calling to Israel is not irrevocable, then on what basis do I trust any of the promises that we Gentiles have received through his promises that we have been given through Jesus? If God’s promise to Israel is not kept, then we are all lost. I as a Christian can only weep at what has been done to Jews over the centuries by “Christians” who perverted the relationship between the Jews and Christians that God intends. I have not been there; I can only bear witness in my own life and actions, and I can only ask forgiveness from those Jews I encounter, that what was done does not speak for me, and does not act for me. It is a great tragedy that the people of God, both the root stock which he called in Abraham and his descendents and the Gentile wild branches he joined with that root through the grace of his sending Jesus, cannot live in peace and be thankful for the God who has called us both to covenant with him.Hashanah Tovah!Pr Chris

  • ccnl1

    From James Carroll: “The litmus test of assertions about Jesus has become their relationship to the overriding issue of the hatred of the Jews”, p 101, Constantine’s Sword, The Church and the Jews. The statement was made in Chapter 11, Destroy This Temple, where Carroll reviews the current HJ scholarship, i.e. the Third Quest. If the assertions of Peter Abelard and also of Nicolaus of Cusa were followed, as Carroll notes, there would be no contemporary anti-semitism or “only Catholics can be saved” rhetoric.From p. 291, “Abelard roundly rejected the idea that death of the Innocent Son was so pleasing to God the Father that through it he would be reconciled to us”. From p. 352, “But what is notable about this work, (Nicolaus’s), is its basic assumption that all religions embody the truth and that all offer a way to the unknowable God”.As Carroll points out, the teachings of Nicolaus and Abelard were unfortunately discarded in favor of those of “saints” Augustine, Anselm and Ambrose, all of which had anti-semitic clauses. Carroll does not assert that Jesus was only a wise sage/Cynic/peasant/healer. Until he and the rest of the catholic church are willing to do so, catholic “holier than thou” attitudes will not change. Jesus did not know in advance he was going to be crucified thereby making the cross only a part of history not theology or Christology.

  • cyber-man

    Dear CCNL a/k/a Christian Concerned Now Liberated: Imagine: ALL you Christians whom post here?You are mad or drunk with “PAULitis”. Lover of a Mass Murderer. Lover of the “MOTHER OF HARLOTS” and now “FATHER OF HARLOTS” and one who agrees via several “EXEGETES” and fellow theologians, that Mr. Rabbi JESUS was “Indeed Crucified” Please, stay off the Eucharist, will-ya? Oye vay!It would be wise that you ‘Post-Less’ and study more. Especially CHUMASH 101 & Bible 102 & Quran 103 & Geeta 104 & Kangyur 105.. then and only then will you earn a genuine “GURU OF ALL, EVERY & ANY” god books, thus calling it something like knowledge of “THE SINGULARITY [not Plurality] OF G-D ALL MIGHTY’s” Purpose. ELSEtuck your jealous (Christian?) tail between ye leggos and take-it-on-a-hop from the top!PS: Your own Tongue needs a circumcision of sorts.Please go lick your wounds of godly-jealousy at some other “AMEN” Corner or Forum!

  • cyber-man

    S.B.T.:Example: Just because SECULAR protected places like ‘NEW YORK CITYs” and their Authorities can locally protect Illegal human Aliens from “ICE” (the FEDS); Does not mean that the “CHURCHES” (or Any) can compete [Market Share] for those ‘knowingly being Illegal Mexicans, Ukranians, Chinese… and expect to collect their tithes ‘Tax-Free’?This is UNETHICAL not only IMMORAL acts! It’s not like saving JEWS in Europe from the Holocausting Nazi’s or harboring George Washington (May he rest in Peace) from the British or French et al.Reasoning: A True Americanized and Authorized or respected THEOLOGIAN (Revvi, Immam, Priest…) CHURCH, SINOGOGFUE, MOSQUE, TEMPLE or House or Stadium of Worships, living & enriching themselves off the U.S. Tax Payers via “THE 1913, 501(c) (3) LAW ” must tell All Illegals of their Congregation or not, that Being Undocumented in Righteous America is a CRIME (not against Humanity but) against Uncle-Sams intent like gods intent!Yes, WE agree with blogger “USAPDX” Stay out of SECULAR BIZ! Ps: But the most Righteous thing All U.S.A. Churches and their Theologians can do, not Hope, is to tell All known Illegal (or Confessing ones) that tell them illegals that They “MUST” (SHOULD is not good enough) to Participate , honestly in the up & Coming “U.S. CENS-U.S. 2010″ Then this will make the “Survey” Statistically most accurate and thus Each “COUNTY” , in All 50 States will bennefit; includes those Illegals; especially their Children!

  • cyber-man

    O’ Sorry; that last post was for Susan Thistlethwaite.

  • Athena4

    JJ,You do realize that the Cyber-men are some of the legendary bad guys of “Doctor Who”, right? They are robots with the brains of humans implanted in them. Which, come to think of it, isn’t such a bad moniker for you.

  • cyber-man

    Ahhhhhhhhhhh,Haaaaaaaaaaa….ATHENA: “the goddess of wisdom, peace, warfare, strategy, handicrafts and reason, shrewd companion of heroes and the goddess of heroic endeavour. She is the virgin patron of Athens, which built the Parthenon to worship her.”Note: When IT comes to the “PANTHEON-OF-HOLYWOOD” I must admitt Sister that I’ve Never heard of “Cybe-MEN”; since I Do not Watch Movies alot! I Don’t even have Cable! Note: We art HUe{MATES not HUMAN anymore; Ye might be one of Us and not know it. I need to look inside your Ears and ye Palm to be sure.I Get me Knowledge (Real & Artificial)& Experience-so from everyday holyi cosmic feelings, HOPE, & Hard-Knocks and awareness of EKLAHTi; WAPO, SLATE , JPOST, YOU et al. O’ Me Athena-Borg?PS: O’, Thank the holyi “CYBERGOD” for the Almighty INTERNET; not just Google, Yoyoyahu Land et al!O’ Lord, O’ Holy No-Man, G-D IT; Bless AMERICA! The MOTHER-LAND! THE-FATHER LANDA! And HOLY-WOOD & FRIENDLY’s!

  • cyber-man

    SIR’s, MAM’s:The “HEALTHCARE-DEBATE” should simply Waite AFter the U.S. CENSUS 2010; This, not to distant “STATISTIC?” will have Majical outcomes/results & more Savings, for ALL Dear AMERICAN’s (Legal & Illegal)! And best of All: President Obama & CO., Will Be Re-Elected via a “LAND-SLIDE”!Such is “Predicted, slightly Prophecied?” IF & only IF His Honorable Brother Slamin-Dunkin BAMA waits after the U.S. CENSUS-2010 gallops around the Blesseth Continent of U.S.A & FAMILY!

  • coloradodog

    More proof here that Abraham was the original Satan who never wanted his children to play well at all with others.

  • Farnaz1Mansouri1

    More proof here that Abraham was the original Satan who never wanted his children to play well at all with others.Posted by: coloradodog | September 23, 2009 11:08 PMI think you may be confusing Abraham with “God the Father” of “NT” (sic) fame, i.e., he who sent “us” his “only begotten son” to be tortured to death.Either that or you’ve been drinking too much of that “Holy Ghost” stuff.

  • Farnaz1Mansouri1

    No, not a beautiful thing. To say that surely would have been Greek to the ancients. Saul trampled the truth. Truth is not beauty, nor is beauty truth. Although not all we need to discern, the distinction serves us well on earth and, my guess is, also in heaven.

  • ccnl1

    For publication in the Tehran newspapers:For those eyes that have not seen)Mohammed was an illiterate, womanizing, lust and greed-driven, warmongering, hallucinating Arab, who also had embellishing/hallucinating/plagiarizing scribal biographers who not only added “angels” and flying chariots to the koran but also a militaristic agenda to support the plundering and looting of the lands of non-believers. This agenda continues as shown by the massacre in Mumbai, the assassinations of Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh, the conduct of the seven Muslim doctors in the UK, the 9/11 terrorists, the 24/7 Sunni suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the 24/7 Shiite suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the Islamic bombers of the trains in the UK and Spain, the Bali crazies, the Kenya crazies, the Pakistani “koranics”, the Palestine suicide bombers/rocketeers, the Lebanese nutcases, the Taliban nut jobs, and the Filipino “koranics”.And who funds this muck and stench of terror? The warmongering, Islamic, Shiite terror and torture theocracy of Iran aka the Third Axis of Evil and also the Sunni “Wannabees” of Saudi Arabia.Current crises:The Sunni-Shiite blood feud and the warmongering, womanizing (11 wives), hallucinating founder.

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