Statement on Tibet and China

I wish to express my solidarity with the people of Tibet during this critical time in their history. To my … Continued

I wish to express my solidarity with the people of Tibet during this critical time in their history. To my dear friend His Holiness the Dalai Lama, let me say: I stand with you. You define non-violence and compassion and goodness. I was in an Easter retreat when the recent tragic events unfolded in Tibet. I learned that China has stated you caused violence. Clearly China does not know you, but they should. I call on China’s government to know His Holiness the Dalai Lama, as so many have come to know, during these long decades years in exile. Listen to His Holiness’ pleas for restraint and calm and no further violence against this civilian population of monastics and lay people.

I urge China to enter into a substantive and meaningful dialogue with this man of peace, the Dalai Lama. China is uniquely positioned to impact and affect our world. Certainly the leaders of China know this or they would not have bid for the Olympics. Killing, imprisonment and torture are not a sport: the innocents must be released and given free and fair trials.

I urge my esteemed friend Louise Arbour, the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights to visit Tibet and be given access to assess, and report to the international community, the events which led to this international outcry for justice. The High Commissioner should be allowed to travel with journalists, and other observers, who may speak truth to power and level the playing field so that, indeed, this episode — these decades of struggle — may attain a peaceful resolution. This will help not only Tibet. It will help China.

And China, poised to receive the world during the forthcoming Olympic Games needs to make sure the eyes of the world will see that China has changed, that China is willing to be a responsible partner in international global affairs. Finally, China must stop naming, blaming and verbally abusing one whose life has been devoted to non violence, His Holiness the Dalai Lama, a Nobel peace laureate.

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  • to Wonder

    China is open to the world,you can come and see with your own eyes,don’t belive any media.And the Beijing Olympic Games is a good chinace for you.Last,i beg you,trying to split China into many pieces is a tragedy,for the whole world.

  • DZ

    We are all saddened by the recent events in Tibet. There are several elements in recent events:(1) Religious freedom and persecution of Tibetans. It seems there are as many monks as there are police. The police apparently were not trying to stop the monks from praying. Since 1950, Tibetan population grew 400% from 1.2 million to 5.2 million, while in whole China population only grew 130%, from 500 million to 1.3 billion.(2) Tibetan independence insurgency. Which country can tolerate insurgency?(3) Safety of its citizens and property. Which responsible government can do nothing on this?(4) Racial hate crimes. Killing and beating up people based on race, what kind of country can show restraint on this?(5) Theocracy, combination of church and state, what kind of progress is that? Which country in this world has the head of state being also head of the church? If the Dalai Lama comes back to the greater Tibet, what happens to people there who are not Tibetan Buddhists?

  • Jesus is the only way

    China should allow more missionaries to Tibet. In fact, the “English teacher” program worked wonders in helping this area modernize. Only Christianity could unify China under a single religion and a new cultural entity.

  • I don’t understand

    “Thanks for posting the YouTube video so we can see what the communist propaganda machine is cranking out these days. I support the struggle of the Tibetan people even more now :)”

  • Aocou

    Have we ever seen anything postive in China from Western media? please let me know if you have any.Please be open minded, China is growing and becoming superpower, but China is sharing their growing to Westerns. the whole world benefit from China’s growing.sign: I’m Chinese and I’m very proud of that.

  • STUPID

    What western media did now is pushing 1.3billion Chinese people united further with the Communist China. Because Chinese people now really have a chance to see how hypocritical/biased western median/people are. Only the communist party is strong enough to take all these biased B***S**T. IF You have never been to China/Tibet in last 10 years, please take a trip first before you put comments here.

  • Buddhist monk, San Francisco

    Thank you for your clear and wonderful statement on China and Tibet in the Washington Post. World attention is focused on this issue and China’s behavior is in the spotlight. If China truly wishes to become a rational partner in world affairs, this is the opportunity for them to show they are ready.

  • The only solution to the Tibet problem:

    More Churches and less temples. More missionary and less monks. It is time that the Tibetan masses can hear the good news. No, they no longer need to be slaves to the religion of heavens and the god-king dictatorship. I also encourage the same action in most of China. Christianity can save China. It is the only cure.

  • Anonymous

    I really appreciate the following comments because its solid facts with deep sympathy.DZ:We are all saddened by the recent events in Tibet.There are several elements in recent events:(1) Religious freedom and persecution of Tibetans. It seems there are as many monks as there are police. The police apparently were not trying to stop the monks from praying. Since 1950, Tibetan population grew 400% from 1.2 million to 5.2 million, while in whole China population only grew 130%, from 500 million to 1.3 billion.(2) Tibetan independence insurgency. Which country can tolerate insurgency?(3) Safety of its citizens and property. Which responsible government can do nothing on this?(4) Racial hate crimes. Killing and beating up people based on race, what kind of country can show restraint on this?(5) Theocracy, combination of church and state, what kind of progress is that? Which country in this world has the head of state being also head of the church? If the Dalai Lama comes back to the greater Tibet, what happens to people there who are not Tibetan Buddhists?

  • Tenzin

    IF China wants respect from the international community as they so desperately need, than they have the best opportunity to resolve the issue with the Dalai Lama and his exile gov’t. I’m so tired of hearing so many Chinese patriots saying that Tibetans are happy under Chinese rule and the west should mind their own business.. more than ever the world is becoming inderdependent, its getting smaller and smaller. We must learn to live in peace and respect of each other’s culture. I don’t think the Chinese who critizes about the west or Tibet don’t know what really is happening inside Tibet except from what they learned about Tibet (backward, serfdom etc) in their schools and CCTV. Have you seen and talked to Tibetans without the Chinese supervision? Have you been to Tibet? What you see in CCTV is one sided only, most people know it too. Remember Tiannamen Massacare? YOu ask average HS students in Beijing, they wouldn’t have a clue about thier brothers and sisters died asking for basic democratic freedom and rights. The gov’t is so protective of covering up lies upon lies… remember SARS, most people knew it before the Communist gov’t acknowledged it publicly. What I’m saying is that in reality, majority of Tibetan’s aren’t benefiting anything from this economic boom, since the rail way link, there’s more Han Chinese migrants in Lhasa and ethnic Tibetans are getting marginalized in every aspect and are being discriminated in daily lives. I’ve been there twice and have family members. I know every tibetan in their heart wishes to see the Dalai Lama back home on his ancesteriol snowland. They are not happy at all, especially now tney are more sacred since China has removed all foriegners and reporters. Tibet needs your help!

  • Olympian Spirit

    We see more Tibetans being beaten and killed in the few videos that are making their way out of Tibet than we see in the Chinese governments media blitz showing their version of the violence. But China is trying to make it seem like Tibetians are to blame. The police incited violence when they forcefully “crushed” the peaceful protests (an official description).The Chinese government tries to completely control of the media, because the only way China can control opinion is to control information. Anyone that says the average Chinese citizen understands what is happening in Tibet is acting completely illogically. How is this possible without a free press?

  • George

    If Tibetan, like Han Chinese, is not treated well un der Chinese rule, it is certainly much better than what Dalai treated his own people 50 years ago and certainly much better than what American Whites treated Native Americans 100 years ago. Give it some 50 more years, things will change.

  • chen si

    “Killing, imprisonment and torture are not a sport: the innocents must be released and given free and fair trials”what are you suggesting by this non-relevant sentence?? where did you get this information that China is killing, is imprisoning innocent people? Did your imaginary god tell you that? I don’t think dalai even believes in that, except for pretending to in favor of you to purchase the Nobel “peace” prize.

  • Tim Dunn

    The blood of the Cherokee people runs in my veins. The American people have repented of their sins against the native Americans. When will the Chinese people and government repent for their sins against the Tibetan people? I support the Tibetan people in their struggle for religious freedom and human rights.

  • gloucho

    Chinese never got it. We wiped out the American Indians, slaved the Black, made the Chinese built our railroads and we discriminate them in every aspect secretly because they have no human rights. Only white and our puppets have human rights. We gave the prize to TUTU in exchange for his support us in this regard. Do you get it now??

  • ww88

    My fellow Americans, haven’t you realized that so many Chinese people can read and write English and discuss freely in this forum while they are in China? What kind of a lousy “propaganda” job the Chinese government did! Oh, hold on, if they can read our English news that means at least they have two sided opinions and can compare; while we Americans can only read and watch the news that our news agencies give us, that means… I’m a little slow here…who are brainwashed?

  • Rev. Ryan

    Thank you Mr. Tutu, for taking a firm stance against oppression and more importantly, WITH peace and freedom. Wisdom is so often eclipsed by propaganda, and the two are even confused for each other. I am proud of this man, and proud of the Dalai Lama, and if they listen to wisdom I would love to be proud of China, for once.

  • gloucho

    American Indians have only money in their brain and alcohol in their blood. They are being paid off with taxpayers money, so they have to say goood things to keep the money coming and be allowed to open more gambling casinos

  • Rev. Ryan

    Thank you Mr. Tutu, for taking a firm stance against oppression and more importantly, WITH peace and freedom. Wisdom is so often eclipsed by propaganda, and the two are even confused for each other. I am proud of this man, and proud of the Dalai Lama, and if they listen to wisdom I would love to be proud of China, for once.

  • THINK

    There is no guarantee that there won’t be any more riots in US. One day when it does happen in US, when your son was burned and your daughter was rapped, I hope you can repeat the words you said today to your government for the rioters: “They are unhappy, give them freedom.”Think in both sides, Please.

  • gloucho

    we have repended in disguise to fool the American Indians and keep them quiet with money, but eventually they will die away gradually from grambling and alcohol and NO ONE will notice

  • Zephon

    Certainly, as an American, with a portion of Native American blood I find it hypocritical that the American media tout human rights.Americans are responsible for the greatest genocide in human history for the slaughter of my brothers and sisters just a few hundred years ago…. and today Americans are destroying the culture and are responsible for the killing of several hundred thousand Iraqi’s.And now the American media supports the CIA backed Dalai Lama and his feeble attempts at supporting violence and rioting in Tibet.Something is wrong here and it is not in China. I only hope my fellow Americans can wake up and stop feeding upon the lies our government gives us.

  • Stephanie Bustillos-Pennington

    I do not understand how one’s country plea for freedom (Tibet) is being ignored. What is clear to me is the simple fact that China is being supported by industrialized countries, such as the USA, because of China’s potential industrial development. How can we forget we are human? How can we forget that our sisters and brothers in Tibet are crying for freedom? This world is ours and we should be able to live in peace and embrace each others’ cultural heritage. The cultural diversity that Tibet brings to the world is unique and deserves respect. His Holiness Dalai Lama pleas for peace, well I plea for freedom. By any means necessary, Tibet fight until you’re free.

  • Have It Your Way… Today!

    Good points, but you’re missing something here. China gets all the bad press for a reason. And the reason is that China’s problems are not being fixed, especially by the people there. Instead they seem to be all rushing to be good Consumers now that being good Communists has lost all its appeal.The poorly managed growth in China is causing problems for EVERYONE. And the only new freedom in China is to buy stuff like self-centered Americans. The people with the real power in China have sold out to the Capitalist business model and are using the new consummerism to make them richer and more powerful.The instant some good Chinese citizen steps out of line, they will end up just like the Tibetans. Sorry but people in China are still slaves to the Communist machine.Have a Happy Meal and wear a paper crown. Everything will be fine… really ;-)

  • Joseph

    Your statement on Tibet and China disappointed me a lot.

  • gloucho

    Thank you Mr. Tutu for taking the stand for us and ignored the criminal actions of the monk and protester. We are glad you stand for human rights, we are human and the people we kill are not. Thank all for supporting our animal instinct and behavior because we know you are one of us.

  • Stephanie Bustillos-Pennington

    One more thing, to the individual who wrote to “think of both sides of the story” and how if riots were to take place we wouldn’t like them, I say the following:I want riots to starts in the US. I want a revolution. There’s still sexism, racism, homophobia, exenophobia, etc. How can I just stand here with arm crossed? People fight for freedom because freedom is a natural state. No man is born into slavery, we create the bondages.

  • ok

    if native Indian (the true owner of America) start this kind of riot, attacking white people, robbing shops, burning flags, …, what will American government do? Maybe call them freedom fighter, like Uncle Bin Laden?

  • Stephanie Bustillos-Pennington

    One more thing, to the individual who wrote to “think of both sides of the story” and how if riots were to take place in the US we wouldn’t like them, I say the following:I want riots. I want a revolution. There’s still sexism, racism, homophobia, exenophobia, etc. How can anyone just stand here with arms crossed? People fight for freedom because freedom is a natural state. No man is born into slavery, we create the bondages.

  • One-of-Hans

    Dear Tutu:

  • Meenu

    To J,

  • gloucho

    Thank you Mr. Tutu for taking the firm stand for us and ignored the criminal and terrorist actions of the monk and protester. We are glad you stand for human rights, we are human and the people we kill, burn, loot are not. We thank all of you deeply for supporting our animal instinct and behavior because we know you are one of us.

  • sickOfTheOppression

    China seems to insist on learning THE HARD WAY how to maintain power; CAREFULLY, not “rule with an iron fist”. They are idiots, just like the rest of us, EXCEPT that they are soooo stubborn, the people are sheep to the government, and the world owes them a lot of money. If China does not concede or give up some ground very soon then they will behave similarly in any other instance where it may really matter to the rest of the world. Therefore, let’s agree that they have broken the rules of humanity and take them to task? Worst case scenario, peaceful means fail, we go over there and simply kick their butts into submission? They have no proven ability to manage anything, so the war would be a cake walk. The alternative is to do what we do today; let them continue to grow like a cancer and THEN deal with them when it’s much more difficult. Sorry if that sounds harsh but its common sense (some of us regular folks are NOT monks); sometimes War IS the answer!

  • Anonymous

    Posted on March 26, 2008 13:27 ww88: Oh, hold on, if they can read our English news that means at least they have two sided opinions and can compare; while we Americans can only read and watch the news that our news agencies give us, that means… I’m a little slow here…who are brainwashed? —–A real clever man

  • Blah Blah Blah

    Zephon, you clearly are biased in your views on American treatment of Native Americans. You forget a few facts when you state that “America” is responsible for the largest genocide in history as perpetrated against Native Americans:1. Most killing of Native Americans was actually perpetrated by Europeans prior to the revolutionary war and the declaration of independence.

  • Aocou

    I noticed one just said “China gets all the bad press for a reason. And the reason is that China’s problems are not being fixed”Thank you for point out China’s problems. but we will solve our problems by our own way, especially not the western way because we know it will kill China if we use the western way, I think I don’t need give you the examples we have currently in the world.Yes, for 100% sure, we have a lot of problem. Who ever don’t think China don’t have problem even we Chinese. But the thing is because of the problems that makes our Chinese feel we have a lot of work to do to fix it by our own. and the fact is because of the problems, then make China keeps growing whenever we fix one problem. so I can’t imagining what could happen to China if China solved all the problems we have. I don’t want that day to come.but remember we solve our problem by our own way not the western way. especially when the western world hates China like today we are seeing.sing: again I’m Chinese and I’m very proud of that.

  • Jay Lee

    All the innocents should be freed not just in China but all over the world. At the same, many innocent people were killed by those so called ‘protesters’ who acted as terrorists. There is nothing wrong for Chinese government to stop the violence and restore the social order. That is exactly what France did last year when riots occured. Today the biggest human rights violator is not China, it is United States. US has brought nightmares to Iraqies and Afganistanians. Hundreds of thousands Iraqies and Afganistanians were killed and millions became refugees. Where are the human rights for those people?

  • Earth Guardian

    Something that’s not being asked in global media is why is China so intent on owning Tibet. The answer is the same as for any similar situation in the past… natural resources.Tibet has water that China needs, Tibet has timber that China needs, Tibet has minerals that China needs, and Tibet has open space that China lacks.This is about greed and theft, pure and simple. The people of Tibet have lost all claims to their birthright and are being robbed.

  • to Meenu:

    you are so naive

  • ww88

    we Americans can criticise you Chinese because we think of you in your country can only watch CCTV, you don’t have access to the internet, don’t have so many friends or relatives living in our great US and telling you what a real biased “American Dreams” is, …What? You in China have 100’s of TV channels including CNN and BBC? What? There are 400Million internet users? And what? You can access most of the western news websites in China? …. No matter what, we still think of you Chinese are brainwashed, we still think of you Chinese are living in the 1980’s, because we use our 1980’s brains to think. In our 1980’s brain, we Americans have the old pictures of you China no matter what changes you have made to you economy, human rights, enthnic relations, living standards, so on and so forth, during the last 30 years. So just listen to this TU TU, because he uses 1980’s brain too.

  • sickOfTheOppression

    China seems to insist on learning THE HARD WAY how to maintain power; CAREFULLY, not “rule with an iron fist”. They are idiots, just like the rest of us, EXCEPT that they are soooo stubborn, the people are sheep to the government, and the world owes them a lot of money. If China does not concede or give up some ground very soon then they will behave similarly in any other instance where it may really matter to the rest of the world. Therefore, let’s agree that they have broken the rules of humanity and take them to task? Worst case scenario, peaceful means fail, we go over there and simply kick their butts into submission? They have no proven ability to manage anything, so the war would be a cake walk. The alternative is to do what we do today; let them continue to grow like a cancer and THEN deal with them when it’s much more difficult. Sorry if that sounds harsh but its common sense (some of us regular folks are NOT monks); sometimes War IS the answer!

  • Jack

    I can’t believe how many commies post here. Screw China and their “Justice”. All should boycott the Olympics.

  • George

    Yes, China want Tibet. Who don’t. british colonized India among others and American seized land from mexica and Seize land from Hawaii, Purto Rico, etc. It is not about Freedom of people, it is power. Who has power, who is right.

  • ww88 has a good point here,proud of being a Chinese

    ww88: Oh, hold on, if they can read our English news that means at least they have two sided opinions and can compare; while we Americans can only read and watch the news that our news agencies give us, that means… I’m a little slow here…who are brainwashed? —–A real clever man

  • Earth Guardian

    Something that’s not being asked in global media is why is USA so intent on owning Iraq. The answer is the same as for any similar situation in the past… natural resources.Iraq has oil that USA needs. This is about greed and theft, pure and simple. The people of Iraq have lost all claims to their birthright and are being robbed.Again hypocritical people/nation should go to hell!

  • [email protected]

    Glad to hear that the EU is stepping up pressure on the Chinese communists. The US lost its moral high ground in the past 7 years (what with the skeletons in its own closet…Xinhua is quick to tell the US to take the beam out of its eye before trying to cast out the speck from China’s eye!!) so at least the EU will take over…just as its Euro is about to take over as the world currency.

  • to ww88
  • Zephon

    Europeans taking the high ground in China???Let us not forget how Europeans and Americans ransacked the capital of China, and stole many of the cultural treasures of China.Let us not forget how Europeans and Americans forced the opium trade on the Chinese through the use of force. The opium wars also created the ports of concession after the Chinese Military lost against the western european powers giving: Hong Kong, Shanghai, Macau and other Chinese territory to the invaders.And now the CIA backed Tibetan riot and murder and the Europeans and American call this a human rights violation! All this after the slaughter of Native Americans in the greatest genocide in human history in the America’s by invading Europeans.No wonder the Chinese do not trust us.

  • peter in canada

    i don’t think that there is any country/culture/society on this planet that does not have blood on it’s hands. this is a golden opportunity for china to demonstrate its greatness and maturity by being the first to renounce the culture of bullying and violence.

  • Eugene

    Being a Nobel peace laureate does not mean that he is not instigating violence in Tibet. We need to try to get the truth out. Tibetan Youth Congress instigates violence in China’s Tiebtan regions, and they consider the Dalai Lama their leader. He should look into these facts, condemn their behavior, and help to bring the terrorists to justice. He needs to show by his actions, not words, that his is pro non-violence. Otherwise, what is the difference between him and Bin Laden ?

  • TIBET WASN’T OURS, SAYS CHINESE SCHOLAR

    A leading Chinese historian and a veteran of the committee that advises on official Chinese history textbooks has broken step with the official Chinese line on historical sovereignty over Tibet and said that to claim that the ancient Buddhist kingdom “has always been a part of China” would be a “defiance of history”. In an article in the China Review magazine, Professor Ge Jianxiong, 62, director of the Institute of Chinese Historical Geography and the Research Centre for Historical Geographic Studies at Fudan University in Shanghai, states that while considering how big China was during the Tang Dynasty (7th to 10th century), “we cannot include the Qinghai-Tibetan Plateau, which was ruled by Tubo/Tufan…” Tubo/Tufan, notes Ge, “was a sovereignty independent of the Tang Dynasty. At least it was not administered by the Tang Dynasty.” If it were not, he argues, there would have been no need for the Tang emperor of the day to offer Princess Wen Cheng in a “marriage of state” to the Tibetan king, Songtsen Gampo. “It would be a defiance of history,” asserts Ge, “to claim that Tibet has always been a part of China since the Tang Dynasty; the fact that the Qinghai-Tibetan Plateau subsequently became a part of the Chinese dynasties does not substantiate such a claim.” Ge’s article is an exploration of a larger theme of Chinese identity in history — and precisely when it evolved. And his comments on Tibet conform to scholarly accounts that acknowledge that the takeover of Tibet during the Qing Dynasty (17th to early 20th century) was the starting point for “Chinese sovereignty” over the region. Yet, Ge’s comments are controversial insofar as they deviate from the official Communist Party line that Tibet has always been an inalienable part of China; in the past China has regarded as any weakening of that theory as “anti-national” and “split-ist”. It will be interesting to see how the authorities respond to Ge’s scholarly article. Ge’s major research fields include historical population geography, population and migration history, and cultural history. He has written and edited numerous books, and over 100 articles on historical population geography, population and migration history, and cultural history. In his latest article, Ge notes that prior to 1912, when the Republic of China was officially founded, the idea of China (in Chinese, Zhongguo) wasn’t clearly conceptualised. Even during the late Qing period, he writes, the term ‘China’ would on occasion be used to refer to the “Qing State, including all the territory that fell within the boundaries of the Qing empire”; but at other times, it would be taken to refer only to the “18 interior provinces”, excluding Manchuria, Inner Mongolia, Tibet and Xinjiang. Therefore, he argues, “if we want to understand the extent of ancient China’s territory, we can only speak of how large the actual territory controlled by a particular dynasty was at a particular moment.” Noting that notions of a ‘Greater China’ were based entirely on the “one-sided views of Qing court records that were… written for the court’s self-aggrandisement”, Ge criticises those who feel that “the more they exaggerate the territory of historical ‘China’ or China’s successive dynasties and kingdoms, the more patriotic they are.” In fact, he says, the opposite is true. “If China really wishes to rise peacefully and be on a solid footing to face the future, we must understand the sum of our history and learn from our experiences.”

  • Dalai Lama Threatens to Resign

    The Dalai Lama on Tuesday invited international observers, including Chinese officials, to scour his offices here and investigate whether he had any role in inciting the latest anti-Chinese violence in Tibet. He also threatened to resign as leader of Tibet’s government-in-exile in the event of spiraling bloodshed in his homeland.Skip to next paragraph Multimedia

  • Stephanie Bustillos-Pennington

    One more thing, to the individual who wrote to “think of both sides of the story” and how if riots were to take place we wouldn’t like them, I say the following:I want riots to starts in the US. I want a revolution. There’s still sexism, racism, homophobia, exenophobia, etc. How can I just stand here with arms crossed? People fight for freedom because freedom is a natural state. No man is born into slavery, we create the bondages.

  • ww88

    My American fellows, let’s get together and all blame China for not “Building the Rome in One Day”, for not solving the human rights issue in two days, for not making the Tibetans wealthy in three days, for not improving what we have criticized problems fast enough so they can beat our records, right? We solved our native Indians problem in how many years? What? 200 plus years? And now they are limited in so called preserved areas doing gambling stuff? You got to be kidding. OK, let’s skip this one, How fast did we American solve our black people’s issue? What? Not yet solved? After Katrinas disaster in New Orleans people all saw we still have black people living under poor conditions desperately needing government’s help? Oh, let skip this too. So which human rights issue did we solved in one day, or in one year, or in two years so we can blame China for not solving it fast enough?……Come on, my brave Americans, we have invaded Iraq for five years and we solved their democracy and human rights issue right away right?….

  • Meenu

    Dear To Meenu:

  • gloucho

    Where was Tutu, when:1968 Mexico City, Mexico, Government troops massacred between 25 (officially) and 350 (according to human rights activists) students on the eve of the 1968 Summer Olympics taking place in Mexico City, and then tried to wash the blood away, along with evidence of the massacre..1970 Ken State Univ. Ohio USA, 29 members of the Ohio National Guard opened fire on unarmed students protesting the expansion of the Vietnam War into Cambodia on the Kent State University college campus, killing 4 and wounding 9, one of whom was permanently paralyzed.

  • gloucho

    Free Americans from government oppression. Tutu please speak out and have a firm stand on slavery in America. Except those on welfare and some deliberately, most Americans are forced to be slave of the governement and give three months of their pay a year to the governemnt to pay mostly for war and socialism.

  • Chin Han

    First, Why don’t you take care your backyards, your L. A. Central, Watts style human rights, Your race Wars, Your dead people’s hunger, your sick people, your HIV, your blood letting drinking rapping habits, your dealers of drug people, and keep all of them in your club houses.

  • Chin Han

    First, Why don’t you take care your backyards, your L. A. Central, Watts style human rights, Your race Wars, Your dead people’s hunger, your sick people, your HIV, your blood letting drinking rapping habits, your dealers of drug people, and keep all of them in your club houses.

  • Carl

    This is total non-sense! The reports we see in the media is utter garbage and BS! It’s a riot in Lhasa, people!!! The ethnic Tibetans were attacking the ethnic Hans! What do people expect the Chinese government to do? Let them riot? Let them rob, beat, kill the Hans and burn down the businesses own by the Hans? (If you don’t know, the term “Chinese” encompasses 30-50 different races in China. The largest of them all is Han.) While all the western media are taking aim at the Chinese government, can anybody tell me what human rights violating action have they taken in response to the unrest? The only western journalist in the area is “the economist’s” James Miles, and his account of the violence is entirely from the Tibetans toward the Hans. Where did all the negative press come from? If the media is so just and reports indiscriminately as they should, where were the media reports when the Chinese people were being robbed, raped and killed by the muslims in Indonesia a few years back? How many people in the west actually heard a word about it? If there ever was violence condoned by a government, that was it! Did we hear much from all you human rights lovers then?And BTW, the last time I checked, everybody recognizes China’s sovereignty over the Tibet area. For god’s sake, it’s part of China since the Qing dynasty! Let me see…that’s before the birth of the United States? If we are to say that the Chinese government should “free Tibet” and let the Tibetans rule Tibet as some of those protesting idiots are saying, should we also say that we should give the Americas back to the Indians? Or should the entire west coast of the United States be given back to Mexico? Should we let the Palestinians have their country back? Should the Polynesians rule Hawaii? Tibet has been part of China for a long time, and the unrest in Tibet right now is China’s own internal affairs! People like Desmond Tutu and Nancy Pelosi should shut up and learn about the subject before they open their big mouth! Talk to the Dalai Lama, “a leader in exile”? China is not an occupying power in Tibet, Tibet IS part of China. The Chinese government should talk to the leader of a gang of outlaws that is a threat to China’s sovereignty and national security?!?! Should the US talk to anybody who embodies a threat to US’s national security?

  • -d

    How can any American be against freedom in Tibet? I understand that people can be manipulated, and I also understand that our country has it’s own divisions and issues, but this is really a no-brainer for every citizen of a Democracy/Republic, and one that should unite us together as a people. So I wonder what percent of these posts are by Chinese communists writing under instructions of their government. Some of these posts use YouTube to back up their anti-freedom agenda. This is especially ironic considering that YOUTUBE IS TOTALLY BLOCKED IN CHINA. The vast majority of YouTube videos about Tibet highlight injustices by an oppressive Chinese government. Yet one YouTube video alleging scandalous relations between the Dalai Lama and the CIA (ridiculous!) keeps popping up in these posts! READ BETWEEN THE LINES, PEOPLE!!!Any Chinese citizen who comes out in support (even non-violent or just posting on the Web) of a free Tibet will be thrown in jail OR WORSE.I stand with Tibet and the Dalai Lama and encourage Americans not to fall for propaganda. -dPS: There will be a GLOBAL DAY OF ACTION on MARCH 31st. If you live in the Los Angeles area, there will be a vigil in front of the Chinese Consulate between 3-6:00 PM. Various communities are coming out to show their support, and we would love to see you there! Chinese Consulate-General Office 443 Shatto Place, Los Angeles, CA 90020

  • to -d:

    go to iraq, come to China,see the truth through your own eyes before you sit there like an idiot,man

  • PeaceInTibet

    The Dalai Lama is half God in Tibetan Buddhism, and the Tibetan people simply cannot disobey him. So far he has not openly called for the end of violence, which is almost equivalent to support. This is totally against the teaching of any Buddhism. He should take his responsibility to call for the end of it.

  • alonliu

    I wonder what percent of these posts are by Chinese communists writing under instructions of their government——you are too old a frog siting in a well,but i still believe you have a good heart,just dont know how to use it

  • Tenzin

    Chinese think the whole world is biased against them!!! Do you know a phrase “calling spade a spade”? Chinese expect the whole world to lie just like their leaders in Beijing are lying. Why don’t they get it that Communism is based on lies and hypocrisy? And, of course torture and persecution of people.

  • chen

    Mr. Tutu, if you don’t condemn the violence done to innocent Chinese, your words has no teeth, because you have no moral authority. How can you support Dalai Lama, who advocates racial segregation between Tibetans and Han Chinese?China doesn’t need Dalai Lama. China doesn’t need the Olympics either. For one, his status and authority over Tibetans was granted by Chinese government in Qing Dynasty. The central government can take that away anyways.What Dalai Lama is proposing is to setup an autonomous region that includes ¼ of Chinese territory. He also wants all Han Chinese and non Tibetans to move out. This can never be agreed upon by Chinese government. Not to mention this is a ethnic cleansing request.Looking at the history, every time Tibet has a uprising or riot. It sets back Dalai Lama’s agenda further back. This time is no different. What you will see is more integration of Tibet with inland China, both in economic and culture terms. Han and Tibetans will be increasingly mixed and Tibetan population will be more secular. Everybody need a good life, Tibetans are no different. Their language will be well taught and religion will still be strongly followed, but not as strong as now. Is this culture genocide? I don’t think so, what ever you call it, this is the trend of human development and nobody can stop it, even Dalai Lama.

  • Stopit

    What about calling Texas, California or Florida countries? What about lets support their independence? Free Texas! Free California!….

  • Aocou

    “I wonder what percent of these posts are by Chinese communists writing under instructions of their government”Very interesting point. How can you come out that statement? let’s have a good guess here:1. you actaully had experience writing under instructions of your government. because what people is saying/doing normally it’s coming from their experiences.2. you are narrow minded, or brainwashed by your media.3. you actaully hate China and Chinese from bottom of the heart.4. ?

  • John Pearle

    Chinese Govt. propaganda is obviously most effective on their own people. All those Chinese who were born after 1949 have only learned the distorted version of Tibetan history that were rewritten during that period. They gave new name to Tibetan kings and places in Tibet so that they sound more like Chinese. Common, rewriting history!! giving new names!!! Now all Chinese know is lies and when those lies do match against the facts in open societies, they cry fool like crazy. They think the whole world is ganging against them. Pity!

  • Aocou

    Can you show your history book about Tibet thousand ago?

  • IamChinese

    John Pearle:Chinese Govt. propaganda is obviously most effective on their own people. All those Chinese who were born after 1949 have only learned the distorted version of Tibetan history that were rewritten during that period. They gave new name to Tibetan kings and places in Tibet so that they sound more like Chinese. Common, rewriting history!! giving new names!!! Now all Chinese know is lies and when those lies do match against the facts in open societies, they cry fool like crazy. They think the whole world is ganging against them. Pity!=====What did native Americans call New York? Tibet was part of the Chinese world for thousands of years before the occidental world even knew about its existence. Yes, the Tibetans are backward in culture and practice slavery before 1950, but Chinese emperors never send its army their to promote civilization and religion, or make any of Tibetans slave. Today, Tibet is the only province in China that do not pay any tax but get large subsidies from the central government. Even Dalai Lama himself acknowledge it is for the best interest of the people in that province to stay in the country. Finally your claim that all Chinese know is lie is false and at best stupid. Chinese people seldom blindly believe in the government, and know what truth look like. We don’t have CNN or FOX News to tell us trivialities day in day out and call that news. Most Chinese don’t even watch news on TV. You can find plenty of free speech on the Chinese internet, even CNN or VOA has been blocked. Why do you think Chinese police closing websites all the time? They just cannot catch up with people who build new ones daily.

  • Jack Merkel

    Ther are more “facts” on the site:

  • free_Tibet

    Those who say they stand for justice but allow such oppression are just as responsible as the tyrants that exercise oppression. Enough is enough! When are people going to DO SOMETHING to STOP it? If nothing has been done so far, and nothing is done soon, the problem will grow. Some of us aspire to be as patient as the Dalai Lama, but aren’t quite there yet.

  • -d

    RESPONSESAocou: 4. Posting in favor of a free Tibet would be cause for arrest in China and only pro-Chinese posts would be government sanctioned. The Chinese government regularly monitors the internet (CNN, YouTube, etc…) and the Washington Post would obviously be something that wouldn’t slip through the cracks. Furthermore, if the Washington Post is blocked/censored in China (why wouldn’t it be?), then all these posts by Chinese citizens would HAVE to go through government channels. As we have all seen in Tibet, THE VOICE OF DISSENT IS FORBIDDEN IN CHINA. All that is left is the approved communist agenda.alonliu: Thank you, but I’m more of a young frog.Whoever said I was sitting here like an idiot: Truth can never be seen. You, however, only stand for what you’re told to stand for. -dPS: There will be a GLOBAL DAY OF ACTION on MARCH 31st. If you live in the Los Angeles area, there will be a vigil in front of the Chinese Consulate between 3-6:00 PM. Various communities are coming out to show their support, and we would love to see you there!Chinese Consulate-General Office 443 Shatto Place, Los Angeles, CA 90020

  • ff

    Comments from China on this site are pretty telling: equal parts insecurity, chauvinism, paternalism and paranoia. Nobody supports violence against Han civilians, but the obvious fact remains that the underlying cause of the riots is the oppression of Tibetans by the Han Chinese, and so nobody is fool enough to believe that the Dalai Lama is the bad guy in this situation. There wouldn’t be any riots if y’all weren’t so determined to rob them of their self-determination, subjugate their religion and appropriate their land and resources. The whole “oh, we’re being victimized by those evil Tibetans” line is just insulting, coming as it does in the context of blatant colonialism. If you’re going to support that kind of policy towards Tibet, at least have the balls to own up to it.

  • Zephon

    As an American I know about oppression.The good old USA has the highest per capita prison population in the world. Our government spies on us without warrants against the Constitution that Bush is sworn to uphold.It is basically a police state. If Americans want to be a symbol of freedom to the world we had better start back home first.Bring our troops home! Stop paying taxes if you believe that oppression by government is wrong. Protesting about China’s handling of Tibetan terrorists and murderers will get you nowhere with changing policies that the vast majority of Chinese support.Keep it home where it might make a difference!

  • Anonymous

    NO! The Dali Lama Needed China! If he kept quiet then he [Mr. Tizin Gyatso] would have gone Far!No, IT was not the Kali or Durga that made him do it, but rather Greed & APATHY. He listened to the Wrong Players!He Blew It! Goodbye Buddhism! Ya Ya!

  • Jim J

    I thought the Dalai Lama’s representatives had several talks with the Chinese government but both sides could not reach any agreement. The pre-condition set by China was “no independence” and the pre-condition set by the Dalai Lama was “genuine automony”. Obviously, the difference between the two sides was the degree of automony for Tibet. In my opinion, the Dalai Lama should consider returning as the spiritual leader rather than a governor. In this way, he could return much quicker and excercise significant influence over Tibet. Boycotting the Olymics is a bad idea since it could ruin any chance of reconciliation between the two sides.

  • robert

    I think you have not got the truth, so you should not say something about other country when you were not in the Tibet(Xi Zang) locale.”Killing, imprisonment and torture …….”>?Did you see that? If you just got this screen on newspaper, you can afford your Nobel Peace Prize !So Could you please make the China Map full first?

  • Harsh Bhasin

    I always had great respect and admiration for Archbishop Tutu.This statement has raised my esteem for him by several notches more. He is increasingly becoming the voice of mankind’s conscience

  • Chester

    It seems that to the people of Tibet, His Holiness the Dalai Lama, a Nobel peace laureate,is a kind of God.Of course, this is connected with religion,but I have been wondering whether it is PROGRESS? Is he connected with the violence? How can we know that? What is the truth? In this world, some countries, in fact every country,is doing something in the interest of their own state.The USA,in particular.So it seems quite OK to deal with a certain problem in a certain way!Then

  • eric

    don’t say yes or no posing “Nobel Peace Prize winner”.do you know china ?do you comprehend china?and do you see the fact happened in tibet.as a religionist,are you blindman, support mobs but don’t condomn riot and vilence.please shut up!!!

  • ProDemo

    Desmond Tutu has said it all! Thank you!!!CHina MUST return Tibet to its people. FREE TIBET NOW.

  • Navin

    Desmond Tutu is a great man and his timely statement on Tibet will forever make him an Icon of Freedom.Thank You.

  • Zephon

    Actions speak louder than words…If the Tibetan people would only protest non-violently instead of murdering, looting and burning then I would perhaps believe statements of peace and non-violence.Instead the Tibetan buddhists have aligned themselves with the likes of terrorists and murderers.I believe that the Dalai Lama’s words are hollow given all the violence his follower’s have caused.

  • Godfather

    It is absurd for Tutu to jump into this so quickly. According to NYT, the real cause for the riot is the increasing economic gap between Tibetans and Han people. This difference largely attribute to the despise of worldly matter that deeply rooted in the Tibetan culture. This is very similar to the ethnic cleansing in Indonesia years ago. The over reaction of the Chinese government is largely caused by the party’s indecision at the early phase of the incident, where police is totally unprepared and unequipped for such riot. Once the demonstration starts to get violent and became a riot, the police just ran away from their duty. This led the whole thing got out of control. In China such incident, especially in a sensitive time, can basically paralyzed the local government–none of the local leaders would take the responsibility. They just report this through the hierarchy all the way to the top. This delay leaves the whole Tibet in the sate of anarchy. Once a decision has come from the top, the solution left was only large scale operation by military police, something similar to the US national guard. I am sorry for the people died in the incident. But politicize the Tibetan incident does not help on some basic issues with respect to China. Supporting the trouble makers in Tibet would only alienate and isolate the friends of the US inside China, this is not helpful in promoting democracy there.

  • Ananda

    Tibetan people have been nonviolent for 50+ years since the Chinese invasion to no avail. They stand at a crossroads when their culture is at threat of extinction and Han domination. Also note that almost all the violent Tibetans were the youth and not the monks.

  • grant

    Please understand the fact first before make judgement. Every responsible government has right to protect his people. Killing innocent people on the street can not be conside as peace and non voilence

  • John

    It has become a fashion to criticize China, even without knowing what is actually going on.

  • Young

    The truth is not China doing wrong things but some Tibetan buddhists or called Tibetans did the things like torroists

  • Mary Grimaldo

    Beautifully and eloquently written. Mr. Tutu has a wonderful way with words. And he is so right.

  • ROBERT HARMON

    IT’S TOO BAD WE DON’T HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO COULD SPEAK THESE WORDS BUT I GUESS HIS CORPORATE HANDLERS WOULD BE UPSET.

  • R. Krall

    Out of respect for all the Olympians who have struggled so hard to participate in the Olympics, I feel all politics should be banned from the Olympic games. There should be no demonstrations tarketed toward the torch bearers, participants, or the Olympic Games. Isn’t “peace” the lesson, and the only lesson, we should receive from all that pertains to the Olympics?

  • u

    This is high time for China to let tibetians decide their own future and let them live in peace.

  • Truth

    Actually, it’s not the truth.

  • CJW

    FREE IRAQ!! The Government of China strongly urges the United States to please show restraint with the Iraqis fighting the US occupation. Please protect the humans rights of innocent Iraqis and refrain from waterboarding, Abu Gharib, Gitmo, rendition and gravity bombing them. Please protect innocent lives and use non-violent means to surpress the Iraqi rebellion. The Chinese government strongly urges the United States to enter into direct dialogue with Mutada al Sadr to resolve the current Iraqi situation. The Chinese government thinks direct dialogue will be very helpful in resolving the current unrest in Iraqi. The Chinese people will not rule out boycotting Boeing, General Electric, IBM, Microsoft, Intel, Google, Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, AIG, ADM and Cargill unless the violence in Iraq stops and all political prisoners are freed from Gitmo and Iraqi jails.Desmond Tutu is just another CIA stooge like “his holiness” (yeah right) the Dalai Lama.

  • Listener

    I agree, but China seems so subtly corrupt sometimes it just seems so hard. Your message reminded me that others still have hope. Thank you.

  • Jack

    why I keep reading such kind of news? Can some medias give people a true and objective report about what happened in Tibet? So many innocents are killed, and who should be responsible? Can Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Mpilo Tutu save those people’s life? five girls are burned to death, and many other people are killed and severely hurted, can Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Mpilo Tutu do some thing really meaningful to stop this while not only say something you don’t actuall know?

  • Me

    It would be interest to know what is this prize winner’s position on the American war on Iraq.

  • An educated American who wants to find out the truth before open her mouth

    Who give you the right to point finger at China as all western countries do? Did you visit China before? Did you talk to Chinese before? Do you know their feelings. Respect others and you’d better keep your mouth shut before finding the truth. By the way, where did you find the truth? Apparently not from Chinese media. Right. How about those innocent Chinese were killed during the voilence? Who speaks for them? What a bias.

  • Ron

    This is not written for freedom. But written for support for very few people, Dalai Lama, its supporters, and rioters.Most Tibetans, if not all, live well in China.Its not necessary to respond to this nonsense “beautiful” words without responsibility. We will do what we are doing right now – Bring a better life for all people in China, including Tibetans.

  • Yu-Tai Chia

    Indeed not only that “Killing, imprisonment and torture are not a sport: the innocents must be released and given free and fair trials,” but also the sportsmanship is demonstrated with spirits of mutual respect, fair and square. Universal human rights is the fundamental value of human beings. China cannot distort the facts and play dirty games to tar the reputation of the Dalai Lama.

  • bb

    Most Han Chinese do not know the truth that they are being brainwashed. I am Chinese American based in Beijing, and I am shocked to know that my Chinese friends believe the Chinese government propaganda. It sounds like in 1989 when thousands of innocent Chinese were killed..The last point: I have been told by a Chinese friend of mine that all communist party members who speak English have been ordered to say something that support the party and then get moeny for that..The bottom line – China is a communist country…

  • Ian M

    This article, while relevant to a degree, also avoids the situations provocateur. It is well known that these types of ‘public outbursts’ have been absent in the Autonomous Region for some time now. China has, overall, made good on its word to allow better lifestyles for the natives of this region.I don’t personally think that Tenzin Gyatso had much to do with it but this is clearly a breach of law in its purest form. China has every right to protect its territorial integrity. I would hope you do not think it is capable of standing on its own, not reverting to a theocracy and becoming another Kosovo? In my opinion separatism is just another word for terrorism if riots and crime do indeed an option prevail.

  • Andy

    Tibet has always been part of China. Why does anyone think it should be independent now? This is like saying Northern Ireland should declare independence from United Kingdom. Or maybe it’s ok for the South to leave the Union during the civil war. United Nations or League of Nations(after WWWI) has never recognized Tibet. Actually, no nation of the planet has ever recognize Tibet as an independent country. The media is so biased these days. They never mentioned the suffering of Han Chinese during the riots.

  • Ian M

    This article, while relevant to a degree, also avoids the situations provocateur. It is well known that these types of ‘public outbursts’ have been absent in the Autonomous Region for some time now. China has, overall, made good on its word to allow better lifestyles for the natives of this region.I don’t personally think that Tenzin Gyatso had much to do with it but this is clearly a breach of law in its purest form. China has every right to protect its territorial integrity. I would hope you do not think it is capable of standing on its own, not reverting to a theocracy and becoming another Kosovo? In my opinion separatism is just another word for terrorism if riots and crime do indeed an option prevail.

  • Being

    in fact, what dali boosted in those days caused innocence people died , i dont think he is devoted to non violence. he betrayed his religion

  • YY

    Why everytime when it comes to Chinese government, some people tends to take double standards? Why some people believe everything Dalai said is absolutely true, but refuse to believe something more tangible like those Tibetan mobs killing innocent Chinese? When we look back this whole thing, it’s very funny that at the very beginning, some people blindly blame Chinese government of sending army to restore order in Tibet and other regions in turmoil. Then after they realised it’s too difficult to deny what those mobs have done in Tibet, they shift the focus to urging Chinese government to talk to Dalai who is the spiritual leader of those mobs. This is simply ridiculous no matter what prize you have won.

  • albiizzert

    yes its tragic to here whats happening in Tibet, but yes its true, where are u getting this news? clearly you dont see both sides of it. Also I agree that everyone are just pointing fingers at the Chinese. China has been blamed for years. Especially the news about the toy recalls due to lead paint. yet again we blamed the Chinese instead of blaming it at the actual company owners here in america. for the toy recall the people we should blame are the people of the United States because we were the ones who agreed to even use cheap labor. overall, i dont hold a position in the problem of Tibet.

  • Paul

    Thank you, for your support. And to those who defend the totalitarian communist leaderships rhetoric are infinitely tone deaf. We only need to be reminded of the Tianamen Square events to understand the brutality of this regime. China today is the same as it was then, but with a lot more power and money.

  • The wrong judgment

    How come in china people overwhelmingly support the government crake down the violent? What I saw from the TV yes the CCTV I see the thugs carrying knifes and other thing to kill the innocent, what the western world think about the situation? Just because the Dalai Lama know how to do the P.R (he is darling or the western world ) you have double standard the situation and only to apply the human right to blame Chinese government, china should not host the Olympic and will never get the attention of Tibet.

  • horsham

    Mr. Tutu claims that he understands Dalai Lama, where as China does not. This, based on his statements, obviously not the case. Yes, Dalai Lama is now advocating non-violence, but this did not happen until he exhausted his violent means, including his armed rebellion in Lasha in 1959 and subsequently about 10 year CIA-sponsored gorilla war with China. In his current proposal of “autonomous Tibet” (his step-back from “independent Tibet”), he demands to rule not only the historical Tibet region, but also much of the Qinhai, Gansu, Sichuan, and Yunnan provinces. This is simply unacceptable to any Chinese person (not just the current government in Beijing). Simply put, this is not a purely culture and religious issue, and until the Western governments and their media outlets (and sidekicks like Mr. Tutu) acknowledge Chinese national interests in this matter, they will only hear their own echoes.

  • Zephon

    Tibet was always considered the doorway for the military conquest of China. Indeed even the American military surveyed and created plans for an invasion of China through Tibet.Hence it is very important for China to not allow Tibet fall into separatists ideology.If Tibetan Buddhists want more independence then doing so with violence and murders will bring them only the disdain and imposition of law and order by the majority in China that abhor such violence.This rioting was a tragic mistake on their part.

  • pierce

    Funny that people named “John”, “Jack”, and “Educated American” are having trouble keeping their predicates straight. A 4 year old speaks better English than you. I’m fine if you suck at English (my Mandarin is horrible), but please stop pretending to be American.Any self respecting country should not need to manipulate their media to keep their people under control. I will be coming to Beijing this summer to see the Olympics, and I hope that you have shaped up by then.

  • Ji

    Thank you. Your voice is more powerful and honors than any politician.

  • Peacnik

    These so-called innocent Chinese in Tibet should never have been there. Before the Chinese invasion, there were almost zero Han in Tibet. Now there are millions.

  • The “Great Game”

    check this article out:

  • larry

    I feel sorry for Archbishop Tutu. He’s writing to powerless people at powerless organizations. I think anyone who has sympathy for Tibet and Tibetans should write to the executives c/o shareholders of major US retailers such as Walmart, Target, Best Buy. If they are convinced to be on Tibetans’ side, their words will be as powerful as 1,000,000 AK-47s or 10,000 missiles or 1 nuclear bomb to stop China from violating human rights in Tibet or in China itself.

  • Jeffrey Berger

    We should stand with Desmond Tutu and other leaders who have condemned China’s oppressive policies towards the Tibetans and their culture. China does not deserve to hold the Olympic games, and I am hoping participates will join in a worldwide boycott. I, for one, intend to boycott merchandise made in China and sold in stores.Truth be told, China sells mortors and other munitions to insurgents in Iraq which are aimed at our soldiers serving there. China is an immoral and mercenary force in the world. They should be boycotted at every turn.

  • gloucho

    Killing, looting, burning of innocent civilians is a sport for protesters? Why Tutu did not urge USA to have a dialogue with Bin Laden? He is a puppet of the West !!!

  • aaron silverstein

    if the tibetins built a man made island in the ocean and made it a new tibet that would be realy cool…..and non violent.

  • Matt Blouin

    Word up to the Revered Man upon High, Desmond Tutu.

  • Hibino

    Yes, you are such a nice guy but if your dog bites me YOU have to pay for it. Dalai Lama might be a person of peace, but he has to be responsible for the violence of his followers as well.

  • Peacenik

    In there own country, the Tibetans can not carry a picture of the Dalai Lama. They have to learn the Chinese language to progress while the Han do not learn Tibetan. The Tibetans can not see the chosen successor of the Dalai Lama who is locked away in Beijing (hopefully alive), and instead have to obey the Commies who chose a successor.Complete destruction of Tibetan people and culture. Sad. The Han value money above everything else.

  • Yuxi Wang

    Desmond should be intelligent enough to know this recent violence in Tibet and other regions of China was planned and instigated by some forces outside China. This would not have happened if this was not an Olympic year. Burning businesses, destroying cars, and killing innocent people are not acceptabel in any society. Get real, Desmond! Make sure you condemn all parties…

  • TRUTH

    WashingtonPost is the worst one and most biased newspaper. free speech is only being used on purpose: no justice

  • Wen JiBO

    “Money Good – Dalai Bad”

  • XL

    “Killing, imprisonment and torture are not a sport: the innocents must be released and given free and fair trials”Actually, it is a fun sports for Tutu if it is killing innocent Chinese people. And innocent Tibetan mob should be set free because they are followers of Dalai, a long time friends of Tutu.

  • Joe of Maryland

    His Holiness sure still has the power to curb the violence and killing. His Holiness needs to do more than just talking. May Buddha forgive all the crimes.

  • Ben

    Maybe Desmond Tutu is a great man. But the Dalai Lama is absolutely NOT holiness. He has a double-face. Even some media has admitted the Dalai Lama is also a political figure. Actually, he is a supreme leader of a theocratic exile government. He was also the biggest lord of a slave society. If you admit that the politicians usually are good at cheating the public or posturing, it is better to consider what exactly they are doing. Besides, nobody will feel comfortable when others judge a conflict by a double standard. The point of this “riot” or “demonstration”, however, is that the Chinese government is NOT the only one responsible for the violence. It’s unfair to only denounce Chinese government for this riot, especially when it seems that the Tibetan protestors, or more precisely, “ruffians” and their instigators have been pardoned or sanctified by most western medias.

  • NoBody

    I am shocked by just how much people living in western countries have been lied to from Iraq WMD to this Tibet incidence. Ask your government and news networks if they have given you the whole truth nothing but the truth about what has happened in Tibet. If you are about finding the truth you will find the truth. If you are used to being lied to you will forever be living in the world of lies.

  • Joe of Maryland

    His Holiness sure still has the power to curb the violence and killing. His Holiness needs to do more than just talking. May Buddha forgive all the crimes.

  • ProDemo

    it’s really laughable when reading someones labeled the upraising Tibetans as terrorists, murderers, troublemakers, etc.,Ask yourself, what would you do if your country is being occupied by a foreign force? Sit tight and shut up? Is that Mao (Hair) told you what to do?Tibet is rightfully belong to its people, not of those communists of China.

  • Nga Le

    China has to open its eyes widely to be able to see the world as it is. Chinese people should look back at their own history…The “Nanking” incident that happened to them not long ago. We all should boycott the coming Olympics because I strongly believe it is the most effective way to help Chinese people to realize and be accountable for their own behavior toward other human beings.

  • anthony

    TUTU is not a specialist of Tibet.

  • gloucho

    Tutu, the hypocrite, still has not urge USA to free all the innocents from The Guantanamo Bay, because he is getting paid off.

  • Dave de la Plante Canada

    A Declaration of Love for TibetThat all humankind aspire to the realization of:1. The Tibetan and Chinese people, standing side by side, and embracing each other as neighbours, with respect for thier cultural differences;2. The people of Tibet coming together as a Unified Community, and as a beacon of non-violence to the entire world;3. Honor of the people of Tibet, with all humanity opening thier hearts to their neighbours, and offer each other their hand in peace through unity;4. All humankind recognizing the Unified Community of Tibet, and thier commitment to peaceful co-existence.5. That all humankind, come together in an act of solidarity, to support the will of the Unified Community and its self-actualization.We, as humankind stand united with an offer of love, to native Tibetans, to the people of China, and to all humanity

  • Salt Lake City Man

    Tibet was a unified country in the 8th century under king Songsten Gampo. At that time, there was no unified country called China. China emerged about the time of 13th century. Tibet was an independent nation and has always been a independent country. The only mistake that Tibetan’s made was letting other nations take formal charge of foreign affairs by it’s neighboring countries.thanksFree Tibet

  • gloucho

    Good boycott Olympic, China gets all the Gold metals and endorsements for their athlelics, all the others get screwed for four years of hard word for NOTHING, hahaha

  • Wg3

    Dalai Lama kidnapped Olympics and now asking for ransom, watch out, he will lose everything as many other hijackers ended up with.As for Tutu, you’d better throw your Nobel price into fire to show you still have redeeming quality, why? instigating violence.

  • Isaac

    To love is not to merely to look longingly into each other’s eyes. It is to look together in the same direction.Surely, the world has reached the stage of knowing that love is the strength we can share.How wonderful it will be when over one billion people feel the inner peace that accompanies the love we feel for another, rather than the loss of vitality we experience when resisting what we know each being deserves. The world is watching!

  • Tony

    You are wrong!

  • Tony

    You are wrong!

  • I don’t understand

    Please ask DaLai Lama has some control over his men first, don’t let them kill innocent Han people first! Now those protesters killed people and set other people’s houses on fire, what should the Chinese government do? Let them do whatever they want? Criminals are punished by law in every country, why it should be different for Tibetan???Just because they have a leader claim “nonviolence”, they are free to kill as many people as they want???????? So this is called “Human Rights” in the western world?????

  • Teresa M.

    Right on Desmond Tutu. The Dalai Lama is a man of peace and we in the US need to listen and heed his words. Those who live by the sword shall die by the sword. May peace prevail on earth!

  • SOB TUTU

    You needs clean your mouth before you talk. Noble peace prize was supported by invaders,like UK and, western powers…. Shut up. Do you think you are the judge? you are idiot, tool of western countries……………Dammm

  • Neal

    Originally the PRC did claim Tibet as being part of China since the Tang Dynasty. But the current official Party line is that Tibet became part of China during the Yuan Dynasty, although they neglect to mention the Yuan was a Mongol & not a Chinese empire. So this Chinese professor’s claim is not new in this regard. What is interesting is how he points out that the concept of “China” & its borders did not originate until after 1912. Prior to that time, China was ruled by the Manchus (1644-1911). The Manchus did not consider themselves Chinese although they were the rulers of China, & Tibet, like Mongolia, was a vassal state of the Qing Empire. However, it was a colonial relationship & the Manchus never considered Tibet to be part of China. Of course, when the Qing Dynasty fell, Tibet became completely independent of Qing overlordship. This concept of Tibet as an integral part of China did not develop until after 1949 by the CCP. However, the Party has been successful in convincing most Chinese of this lie. It’s scary how easy it is for a govt. to make people believe something is true when it is not if you keep repeating it over & over again & the lie itself is palatable the listener.

  • John Quinlen

    Well Spoken. The international community needs to come together and boycott the olympics. Nike, McDonalds, Apple and other corporations who have profited in the Billions because of China’s lack of human rights, needs executives who are leaders and have cajones to say the B word and follow through with a boycott.

  • Gang

    “China has to open its eyes widely to be able to see the world as it is. Chinese people should look back at their own history…The “Nanking” incident that happened to them not long ago. We all should boycott the coming Olympics because I strongly believe it is the most effective way to help Chinese people to realize and be accountable for their own behavior toward other human beings.” – Nga LeWait one minute here, Nga Le. What are you saying there? We(the Chinese people) should look back at or own hisory “Nanking”, that “happened” to me? What exactly your point here. What does that have anything to do with this? Do you know your history? Do you know your facts? Stay away from topic you don’t know anything about and stay that way for your own good.

  • Boris

    I do agree, some of you might think it’s fruitless and bleak to protest against China but just think of those poor Tibetans who in spite of knowing their act would lead them to their grave, are only doing so for their country, their people and the future generation. After all, there has to be someone who has to hope against hope and instill patriotism among Tibetans. Our culture, our traditions and our religion is something that’s immortal and will prolong to live on forever. May the souls of those Tibetans who have lost their lives rest in tranquility. I hope and pray that China will show some sympathy (sentiment of a human being) and will FREE TIBET.

  • A oversea Chinese

    I do respect the Dalai Lama and I do hope he is truly promoting peace in Tibet. However, I do not think peace can be achieved by introducing hatred and racist attack.

  • a chinese

    really stupid

  • Lu Gan

    China is a menace not only to Tibet but to the whole world. A country that is skilled and capable of slaughtering its own people is undeniably capable of doing anything. Such sad state of affairs, we Tibetans had to stomach Chinese rule for the past many decades. My heart goes out for those living in Tibet. Chinese officials are merely bullying Tibetans with their arms and ammunitions. You guys have no idea how it feels to not have a country of your own and the fact that it’s been snatched away from you adds further soreness to the wound. All we Tibetans yearn for is our country. We are not the least bit interested in violence whatsoever. We as Buddhists are fully aware of the consequences of causing harm to someone else; yet there are some vulnerable Tibetans in Tibet who are not only risking being tortured to death by the Chinese officials but facing their “Karma” in the next life.

  • george

    Tibetans are not protesting peacefully. So its kind of hard to stand with Tibetans. Dalai Lama shouldn’t be involved in this.

  • Ted

    If you teach someone right from wrong, and they do wrong–you are not responsible. At some point we have to learn that individuals are responsible for their own actions. Let’s stop using brainwashing as an excuse and believe that other people have the same investigative instincts to learn the truth. If these insticts are ignored and people decide to take the easy way out and believe lies–certainly their parents or spiritual leader for that matter cannot be blamed. You can lead some to the truth but you can’t make them believe.

  • Gang

    “China has to open its eyes widely to be able to see the world as it is. Chinese people should look back at their own history…The “Nanking” incident that happened to them not long ago. We all should boycott the coming Olympics because I strongly believe it is the most effective way to help Chinese people to realize and be accountable for their own behavior toward other human beings.” – Nga LeWait one minute here, Nga Le. What are you saying there? We(the Chinese people) should look back at or own hisory “Nanking”, that “happened” to me? What exactly is your point here? What does that have anything to do with this? Do you know your history? Do you know your facts? Stay away from topic you don’t know anything about and stay that way for your own good.

  • Zephon

    Furthermore China recognized the Tibetan province as an autonomous region for a very long time. And even worked with the Dalai Lama to help stabalize that part of the country.But then Tibetan buddhists with the knowledge and support of the Dalai Lama staged an armed uprising with the support of the USA/CIA. Americans provided arms and training in terrorist activities for the Tibetans. But like the Bay of Pigs when the Chinese found out they brought in their military and the Americans not really wanting a war left the Tibetans to their own means. ie: they lost.Hence you have the state of affairs today. China considers the Dalai Lama a failed terrorist and has no intention of ever allowing him back in at any governmental level in the Tibetan province of China.Gooogle Tibet and CIA or operation ST Circus which is the CIA codename for the Tibetan bay of pigs operation

  • Jay Patel

    Yeah China has come really far for human rights….whatever….keep in mind that if you were in China you wouldnt be on this site right now I guess since Tibet doesn’t have oil we’re not so brave in wanting freedom for the oppressed. It’s called being Hypocritical. America has completly lost it’s “values” since the right wingers have stepped up.The only “values” that America stands for now is gimmie gimmie gimme. Hey, doesn’t America want to bring ‘freedom’ and democracy to Tibet? Funny how we pick and choose who’s fight for freedom we support and those we do not. Iraq; yes, Tibet; no? Iraq; yes, Taiwan; no. Maybe it is all about money and/or oil, and not a thing about the ‘ideal of freedom’ and democracy. Hmm, what a shocker.

  • Mike Hudson

    I have watched Chinese police brutalizing defenseless Tibetans in the streets of Lhasa for no apparent reason, and with impunity (he who has the gun makes the rules). I have seen gangs of Chinese youth in Lhasa attacking and beating lone Tibetans just for wearing the traditional Tibetan dress. I have seen monks who were beaten to a bloody mess by Chinese police simply for sitting peacefully in the town square (Barkhor) with a photo of the Dalai Lama, and I have, sadly, met too many nuns who were either brutally raped by Chinese police or forced to fornicate with a monk, a family member, or a stranger in public as a means of humiliating and disgracing them.Anyone who speaks out in protest is typically beaten, arrested, imprisioned, and tortured horifically (e.g. countless numbers of political prisoners are raped with electric cattle prods) until they are dead or just short of death. I have personally met several dozen such former political prisoners, many of whom were undergoing medical treatments for severe internal organ damage. I have spent about a month in Tibet and I have seen with my own eyes the brutal repression of Tibetans by the Chinese government. Beijing claims that Tibetans are better off under Chinese rule, and according to the research of various international academics and NGOs it’s true that about 10% of Tibetans (essentially the minority that have chosen to be members of the Communist Party) say that they consider the Chinese-built roads and hospitals to be welcome improvements (and it should be noted that the hospitals benefit only that minority who are party members). A handful of Tibetans have also been coerced into making various propaganda statements out of fear of the repercussions if they refuse. The other 90% are brave enough to speak the truth even at the cost of their own lives. And what is that truth? Many of the basic stats have been mentioned already, so I’ll focus on a few points with which I have pleny of personal experience.

  • gloucho

    True fact about the genocide of the American Indians, they took their holly land, slaughtered their men,women and children, wiped the race off and what’s left turned them into gamblers and alcoholics, then they falsely accuse others as having no human rights, it is all political and biased opinion

  • alonliu

    there are many pictures all over the web,you should see them before open your mouth

  • Meenu

    To “An educated American who wants to find out the truth before open her mouth” ,First and foremost, you need to brush up on your grammar. its …”before she opens her mouth”. Some ameircan you are. Second,if you feel that the world has a wrong interpretation of what is really happening in Tibet, why dont you let the world press come in and get a chance to report the ‘truth’? Why have you locked out all foreign press and then expect us to blindly believe the news coming from the only chinese media?

  • caroline

    All these people are encouraging the rioters to kill more innocent people next time. Something very clear happened in Tibet is that “calculated targeted violence against an ethnic group, or I should say two ethnic groups, primarily ethnic Han Chinese living in Lhasa, but also members of the Muslim Hui minority in Lhasa. ” According to the CNN journalist James miles who happen to be in tibet when it happened in Mar 14, 2008.But, in March 16, new york time interviewed Dalai lama, here is what he said:Dalai Lama Won’t Stop Tibet Protests. Is it so difficult for you to figure out what’s wrong here?

  • Dlgs

    Do any of you asks yourself? where is your HOMELAND?* CRY?we are human being, who dont have his own family, parents, cultire etc? chinese do so .Stop propagates china is help the devolops Tibet ecomonic, it´s not true, i been in tibet since year 2004, i was completely shocked….. the environment been damaged distroyed etc…should we thinks back TIANMEN = 6.4, what china govertment had done?

  • caroline

    All these people are encouraging the rioters to kill more innocent people next time. Something very clear happened in Tibet is that “calculated targeted violence against an ethnic group, or I should say two ethnic groups, primarily ethnic Han Chinese living in Lhasa, but also members of the Muslim Hui minority in Lhasa. ” According to the CNN journalist James miles who happen to be in tibet when it happened in Mar 14, 2008.But, in March 16, new york time interviewed Dalai lama, here is what he said:Dalai Lama Won’t Stop Tibet Protests. Is it so difficult for you to figure out what’s wrong here?

  • Meenu

    To all the chinese writing here as ‘educated americans’ – If you feel that the world has a wrong interpretation of what is really happening in Tibet, why dont you let the world press come in and get a chance to report the ‘truth’? Why have you locked out all foreign press and then expect us to blindly believe the news coming from the only chinese media?

  • Frank/US

    Here are the facts:

  • Lee Kuan Yiew

    Tibetan Holocaust official numbers from delegations sent to Tibet between 1979 and 1983:Tibetan Holocaust Total (until ’83): 1,278,387Why didn’t Tibet ever have a Tibetan governor who could have prevented this genocide?China’s human rights abuses are “staggering”: the detention of hundreds of thousands of people, including political activists, for “reeducation” programs, and forced labor camps; and the liberal use of the death penalty in China — including for political prisoners — which makes China the site of 8 of every 10 government administered executions carried out in the world. The Chinese cannot and should not be trusted. One World, One Dream, Free Tibet!

  • aaron silverstein

    why dont the tibetins build a man made island in the ocean and make it a new tibet

  • Frank/US

    Here are the facts:

  • gloucho

    Puppet regime established, 4000 soldiers died, $500 billion USD spent, millions of innocents killed, all justified because anything the West do is always right, and many can be paid off to support the action, and anyone not kissing up to them is always wrong !!!

  • aaron silverstein

    why dont the tibetins build a man made island in the ocean and make it a new tibet

  • CHENG XU

    I just wonder why western media and western people just don’t want to talk about the Chinese killed and burned to death in this riot. It is the tibetn that did all the killings. The exile government in India said it did not organize the riot, but it also claim that it know exact number of people who get killed in this riot. How come the exile government is so good at this information if it was not involed in this riot?If I say the western media is heavily biased on this issue, would anyone disagree?

  • MP

    Tutu seems to be only posting his picture on this article. Somebody else is moe than likely an author of it. Eversince western allies have helped Kosovo to declare an unilatheral independence, that was a signal for the Tibetans to start with the same scenario. The allies are putting in practice a long time master minded plan to destabilize Chinese economy when they are the weakest- before the Olympics. Everithing happens with a reason- somebody planned to initiate the whole issue with a small pilot project of Kosovo. Why is Tamil in India not an issue at this point?

  • to Meenu:

    there are many pictures taken by AP and Ruters,did you notice that?

  • KGC

    Thank you Archbishop Tutu for having the strength to say the right thing. I hope that other in positions of power will show similar courage. We are at a turning point in history, the question is which way will it go. If China does the right thing and enters into dialogue with the Dalai Lama it could be a watershed moment for international diplomacy and so called civil society. If China entrenches, it could ignite a new cold war. Given that President Jintao implemented the changes in Tibet that are at issue when he was party chief there prior to becoming president, and the history of overreaction to peoples movements by the people’s party, I am fearful that things could go bad.

  • new nobel peace prize winner

    we should take your nobel prize away and give you a olympics gold metal for front runner.

  • Hao

    In China, we hear only state media. So hard to know truth. Dali Lama is made villian but is known he is great leader and man of compassion. Tibet is like America when Native Americans were killed. They live in country long before then army killed them. Now Tibet is same. Very sad.

  • new nobel peace prize winner

    we should take your nobel prize away and give you a olympics gold metal for front runner.

  • Kathy Podgers

    China has my sympathies on this subject. The “western media” have been assalting readers almost non stop, and with little opportunity to post comments correcting the false and misleading information repeted as fact, when it is known to be false fact.The Dalai Lama is not only not a man of peace, but he is a paid CIA opperative. This is a matter of public recpord, and in the US Congressional record. I find it an appaling and ironic injustice that a man who has fought for racial equality would ever support the dalai Lama, who willing left Tibet, because he refused to give up his slaves.China, not the Dalai lama freed the slaves and serfs in Tibet. China, and not the Dalai Lama built schools so Tibetan families could educate their children. China, not the Dalai Lama built hospitals so folks could have medical care. China, not the Dalai Lama ended the traditions of gouging out eyes, cutting off limbs, torture and placing folks in dungeons inside the monestaries. China, not the Dalai Lama ended traditional superstitious, like throwing women outside to give birth in the dirt, killing and stuffing twins because they were proof that the mother had consorted with evil spirits. China, and not the dalai lama ended the “ear tax” and corvee.I find it astounding that news reports claim that Tibetan students in universities all over China have taken to the streets to protest oppression. In my opinion the chance to study and sit for exams and be accepted into top universities regardless of ones race or religeon is an opportunity not oppression.Finally, I cannot think os a single person who would believe that the terror camps set up by the CIA and the Dalai Lama in Mustang was a peaceful expression of wanting to be a part of China. The only reason there is such a hue and cry over Tibet today is due to the great dis-service the western media has done in being the willing mouthpiece for the CIA.Is this not how we ended up in VietNam? Is this not how we ended up in Iraq? Do the leaders of the world not have responsibility to tell this story truthfully?take care folks, and don’t swallow it whole, kathy

  • aaron silverstein

    if the dalai lama was to say that he would build a man made island in the ocean and make it a new tibet……the voilence would stop…..

  • hanmagic

    Ten innocent people have been burned to death in and near the Tibetan capital Lhasa, including an eight-month-old boy and a family of five by the violent and brutal monk and protester, they have no human rights???

  • hanmagic

    Ten innocent people have been burned to death in and near the Tibetan capital Lhasa, including an eight-month-old boy and a family of five by the violent and brutal monk and protester, they have no human rights??? Monks are religious?? May be they practice the religion of brutality, violence and terrorism

  • Joe

    Stupid announcement before clarify the whole issue! I can not believe a Nobel Peace Prize winner will support riots and the action of killing innocent people! It is the way for Desmond Tutu support his friend whatever the methods they manage to get their human rights by burning others home and killing innocent people? It is the way they called “PEACEFUL PROTEST”?!!! Think it over, do not be fooled by someone!

  • Tutuclueless

    Tutu, being a Nobel peace laureate, seems to be just as clueless and biased. Killing, imprisonment and torture are not a sport – you are absolutely right. But setting vehicles and shops on fire, and killing innocent people are not non voilence, either. Have you been to China? Have you been to Tibet? How much do you know about the Chinese history? You, Mr. Tutu, must stop naming, blaming, and verbally abusing China! Rioting and killing innocent people won’t be tolerated by any country on this planet. Let me know if you can name one country where criminals won’t be punished.

  • J

    To Meenu: 1) after bush was elected 8 years ago and seeing what he has said/done to other countries, the term ‘educated american’ almost appears to be an oxymoron2) I’m canadian, not everyone who reads this is american, so please don’t make the usual assumptions, like chinese media=lies, cnn=truth, america=liberty+freedom, iraqis are happier now3) and there’s been enough said about the freedom of places like qubec, hawaii, texas, north america, so there’s no need to raise the fact that the western world holds a huge hypocritical double standardall I will say is, china will NOT let tibet become independent, in the next 200 years we’ll kill 220 million of them(same number as the native indians killed), then give the remaining ones little scraps of land and casino licenses, and lots of booze.then china will be praised by the world for its freedom/human rights? right USA?

  • Justin G

    Tibetans have my support too. The unspeakable acts of cultural genocide is ridiculous, the outrage of the Tibetans is justified given the moral stance of the Chinese Government. This is no different than what the US did to Native Americans. Recognizing that were wrong in what we did, the US should step for human rights to make sure it does not happen anywhere else. The UN should be united as well.

  • China killed 1.2 million Tibetans

    China has killed over 1.2 million Tibetans SINCE 1959. That is by far larger number than the number you keep mentioning in the recent riot. Why dont you leave other people’s country? Do you not understand when you are not wanted? Apparently 1.2 million tibetans opposed your invasion.

  • gloucho

    Tutu was awarded the prize as a paid off to be the spokeman for the West in their favor. As they way there is a trade off in everything we do.

  • tibet is a crapy peace of land with thin air and bad dirt

    tibet is bad land there is thin air and the land is all stone …….why would eney budy want to live in tibet……

  • Dave

    Boycott the Olympics and “Made in China”.Buy a hybrid or economy car so we don’t end up in just one of many “100 year” wars.No wonder Republicans don’t want to pay for Social Security…they won’t have any money to fight “fake” wars.God save us if we elect lame McCain!

  • sandra fei

    Clearly you do not know Chinese!

  • Dave

    Boycott the Olympics and “Made in China”.Buy a hybrid or economy car so we don’t end up in just one of many “100 year” wars.No wonder Republicans don’t want to pay for Social Security…they won’t have any money to fight “fake” wars.God save us if we elect lame McCain!

  • Joe

    Don’t be fooled by someone who is dying to see the fight and killing between others!

  • Joe

    Don’t be fooled by someone who wants to see the fight and killing between others!

  • reader

    In an event like this, anybody who jumps to conclusion so quickly and starts pointing fingers right away shows only their stronger interests in using this event than knowing the true behind. Also, you’ll only fool yourself if you think somebody can not be wrong and so can not be questioned.

  • Rob

    But China has NOT changed Mr. Tutu. The only thing they have changed is how they get their national money. China’s people still do not have freedom, they are encouraged to spy on one another still. Religious and philosophical issues are still restricted. And it continues to care only for itself. It has never sent troops or even medical assistance whenever the UN has sent “peacekeeping” forces to Africa, it hasn’t assisted with the new world-war except that their definition of terrorists is anyone that differs from Chinese communism. What people seem to not realize is everything we know about so called “Chinese culture” is actually from China’s past before the communists stamped it out. The Chinese who came to the America’s in the 1800’s to build the railroads and the slave sex workers with them are the ones who deserve the credit for any knowledge and reverance of so called “chinese culture”. Those who say China is trying to commit “cultural genocide” in Tibet are absolutely correct because they did it to their own even.Rob

  • Cameron

    For those Chinese sympathizers that attempt to excuse the actions of the Chinese authorities in Tibet by comparing it to other acts of civil disobedience in other countries, I say this: The harsh REACTION of the Chinese to the rioting is what stands in stark contrast to the way most other nations would have responded. An appropriate response to violent rioting is to arrest the suspected rioters and have them stand trial, not to murder them in cold blood without a trial. Non-lethal means of riot control exist (Tear gas, rubber bullets, mounted officers, riot gear, water cannons, etc.). I’m certain the Chinese have access to those means.Given the history of tension between Tibetans and China, it would have been prudent for the Chinese to have anticipated possible civil unrest in Tibet and to have developed contingent responses for law enforcement. The use of wanton lethal force in order to quell a rioting populace is excessive and exposes the limited training and foresight the Chinese have provided to their law enforcement corps.Although I understand individual rights by western standards do not exist in China and by extension Tibet, I feel China should tread carefully in Tibet given the unique situation there. China must recognize that because it is emerging onto the world stage as a major political power, its actions will be scrutinized more closely. China will not be given a free pass on brutal treatment of Tibetans.If China truly believes that Tibet is their sovereign land, then logic dictates that Tibetans are to be considered Chinese. Using that logic, the Chinese authorities are brutalizing their own people. So it would seem that in the many years since Tianamen Square, the Chinese have not implemented safeguards to protect human rights. That is understandable, given that China has not accepted any indelible human rights or freedoms as the basis for its government and does not see the value or feel the responsibility to observe such lofty ideals. China would not have this problem if it granted individual freedoms and rights to its people.Lastly, I ask the Chinese and Chinese sympathizers: What is the harm in granting individual rights to speech, the press, religion, etc.? The reason for much of Tibet’s unrest is precisely because of the lack of freedoms imposed by the Chinese. It would behoove China to extend some personal freedoms to Tibetans as an acknowledgement of Tibet’s unique cultural & historical perspective. China may claim that Tibet is it’s own, but China cannot claim that Tibet’s unique cultural history and religious fervor is its own. By granting some individual freedoms in Tibet, China has an opportunity to show it will be a responsible steward of its growing global power with respect to human rights.

  • Sam

    Excellent statement, you can’t say better. It’s now up to China to show if they are really open or still same old Communist hardliners. I would boycot the Olimpic games if China will not resolve this quickly.

  • The Tired

    I am tired of people pointing their fingers at China, when they know absolutely nothing about China. It was NOT a peaceful protest, and the fair and all truth telling western media intentionally manipulated the news and made sure China would come out extra evil: CNN showed a photo of army vehicles roaming the streets of Lhasa while covering up the other half of the photo which shows protesters throwing rocks at the vehicles. German media “mistakenly” mixed up Nepal police and the Chinese army and framed China for using violence against protesters when It was the Napal police in the photos, and the list goes on and on, please people, do some research before you mumble free Tibet!

  • The Tired

    I am tired of people pointing their fingers at China, when they know absolutely nothing about China. It was NOT a peaceful protest, and the fair and all truth telling western media intentionally manipulated the news and made sure China would come out extra evil: CNN showed a photo of army vehicles roaming the streets of Lhasa while covering up the other half of the photo which shows protesters throwing rocks at the vehicles. German media “mistakenly” mixed up Nepal police and the Chinese army and framed China for using violence against protesters when It was the Napal police in the photos, and the list goes on and on, please people, do some research before you mumble free Tibet!

  • KGC

    Let us support the people of Tibet and at the same time not be reactionary and force China into a corner. That would be bad for the whole world and Tibet particularly. Even if China may be in the wrong, they will not be forced by outside forces to change. They must be allowed to change themselves. Let us not forget of the tension over Taiwan. The Dalai Lama’s tempered practical approach should be a model for all of us.

  • Watcher

    I am trying hard to reconcile Mr. Tutu’s condemnation of China regarding recent events in Tibet with other news reports that say most of the deaths were of Chinese nationals who were attacked by demonstrators. (see Gwynne Dyer’s recent blog:

  • Hail to Cameron

    Your logic and sensible approach is not going to make head way when you have brainwashed and overly emotional people. Instead of debating the issue, you will see chinese pass blame to others. a great way to aviod the topic in hand.

  • The Tired

    I am tired of people pointing their fingers at China, when they know absolutely nothing about China. It was NOT a peaceful protest, and the fair and all truth telling western media intentionally manipulated the news and made sure China would come out extra evil: CNN showed a photo of army vehicles roaming the streets of Lhasa while covering up the other half of the photo which shows protesters throwing rocks at the vehicles. German media “mistakenly” mixed up Nepal police and the Chinese army and framed China for using violence against protesters when It was the Napal police in the photos, and the list goes on and on, please people, do some research before you mumble free Tibet!

  • KUKURUN

    Anyone who said “Tibetans being repressed, beaten, tortured, and killed ” has no idea of what is really going in Tibet and China!In Tibet when a Han Chinese was beaten and tortured on the street right under the sun, he would rather not fight back! There were all tibetans all around the corner. If he fights back, he may get killed. If you watch the video of the riot, you would know what I am talking about. Most wester people don’t know the fact that tibetan won’t get punished if they break minor law in tibet only because they are tibetan! They are spoiled by the favorable race policy in China. If China government adopt the harsh policy 50 years ago as US did to the native india, I guess this world would be more peaceful now.

  • instrumentalop

    China killed 1.2Million Tibetans? However small your brain is, use it please! Some 300 lives a day over 50 years (weekends off) is pretty serious.

  • LX

    For those who ever claims that China has killed 1.2 million Tibetan during the Cultural revolutions. The following infomation is what you can find on Wikipedia and you can see what is the Tibet Government-in-exile’s habit of doing statistics and how trustable casualty info from them can be:”The Central Tibetan Administration states that the number that have died in the Great Leap Forward, of violence, or other indirect causes since 1950 is approximately 1.2 million,[100] According to Patrick French, a supporter of the Tibetan cause who was able to view the data and calculations, the estimate is not reliable because the Tibetans were not able to process the data well enough to produce a credible total. French says the CTA based this total on refugee interviews, but prevented outsider access to the data. French, who did gain access, found no names, but “the insertion of of seemingly random figures into each section, and constant, unchecked duplication”. Furthermore, he found that of the 1.1 million dead listed, only 23,364 were female (implying that 1.07 million of the total Tibetan male population of 1.25 million had died)[101]. “

  • Tibet wasn’t ours, says Chinese scholar

    A leading Chinese historian and a veteran of the committee that advises on official Chinese history textbooks has broken step with the official Chinese line on historical sovereignty over Tibet and said that to claim that the ancient Buddhist kingdom “has always been a part of China” would be a “defiance of history”. In an article in the China Review magazine, Professor Ge Jianxiong, 62, director of the Institute of Chinese Historical Geography and the Research Centre for Historical Geographic Studies at Fudan University in Shanghai, states that while considering how big China was during the Tang Dynasty (7th to 10th century), “we cannot include the Qinghai-Tibetan Plateau, which was ruled by Tubo/Tufan…” Tubo/Tufan, notes Ge, “was a sovereignty independent of the Tang Dynasty. At least it was not administered by the Tang Dynasty.” If it were not, he argues, there would have been no need for the Tang emperor of the day to offer Princess Wen Cheng in a “marriage of state” to the Tibetan king, Songtsen Gampo. “It would be a defiance of history,” asserts Ge, “to claim that Tibet has always been a part of China since the Tang Dynasty; the fact that the Qinghai-Tibetan Plateau subsequently became a part of the Chinese dynasties does not substantiate such a claim.” Ge’s article is an exploration of a larger theme of Chinese identity in history — and precisely when it evolved. And his comments on Tibet conform to scholarly accounts that acknowledge that the takeover of Tibet during the Qing Dynasty (17th to early 20th century) was the starting point for “Chinese sovereignty” over the region. Yet, Ge’s comments are controversial insofar as they deviate from the official Communist Party line that Tibet has always been an inalienable part of China; in the past China has regarded as any weakening of that theory as “anti-national” and “split-ist”. It will be interesting to see how the authorities respond to Ge’s scholarly article. Ge’s major research fields include historical population geography, population and migration history, and cultural history. He has written and edited numerous books, and over 100 articles on historical population geography, population and migration history, and cultural history.In his latest article, Ge notes that prior to 1912, when the Republic of China was officially founded, the idea of China (in Chinese, Zhongguo) wasn’t clearly conceptualised. Even during the late Qing period, he writes, the term ‘China’ would on occasion be used to refer to the “Qing State, including all the territory that fell within the boundaries of the Qing empire”; but at other times, it would be taken to refer only to the “18 interior provinces”, excluding Manchuria, Inner Mongolia, Tibet and Xinjiang. Therefore, he argues, “if we want to understand the extent of ancient China’s territory, we can only speak of how large the actual territory controlled by a particular dynasty was at a particular moment.” Noting that notions of a ‘Greater China’ were based entirely on the “one-sided views of Qing court records that were… written for the court’s self-aggrandisement”, Ge criticises those who feel that “the more they exaggerate the territory of historical ‘China’ or China’s successive dynasties and kingdoms, the more patriotic they are.” In fact, he says, the opposite is true. “If China really wishes to rise peacefully and be on a solid footing to face the future, we must understand the sum of our history and learn from our experiences.”

  • peter in canada

    dalai “clique”? the rulers of china should have a pretty good idea of what a clique is.

  • LX

    For those who ever claims that China has killed 1.2 million Tibetan during the Cultural revolutions. The following infomation is what you can find on Wikipedia and you can see what is the Tibet Government-in-exile’s habit of doing statistics and how trustable casualty info from them can be:”The Central Tibetan Administration states that the number that have died in the Great Leap Forward, of violence, or other indirect causes since 1950 is approximately 1.2 million,[100] According to Patrick French, a supporter of the Tibetan cause who was able to view the data and calculations, the estimate is not reliable because the Tibetans were not able to process the data well enough to produce a credible total. French says the CTA based this total on refugee interviews, but prevented outsider access to the data. French, who did gain access, found no names, but “the insertion of of seemingly random figures into each section, and constant, unchecked duplication”. Furthermore, he found that of the 1.1 million dead listed, only 23,364 were female (implying that 1.07 million of the total Tibetan male population of 1.25 million had died)[101]. “

  • Jerry

    Clear those who set fire on shops, killed innocent people, and damaged public or private properties of others are not innocent. I challenge Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Mpilo Tutu and all the leaders in Western countries to condemn these atrocities; otherwise everybody can see you are using double standards and will not be convinced to support any of your suggestions.

  • Spoiler

    I laugh at the pitiful Chinese here, pretending to be from another country and using Western names as disguises, reciting the ridiculous propaganda they learn from their State Council Information Office.I guess if I was one of the 1.3 billion faceless nobodys trying to seem important, I’d try getting all my power from being a glorious Communist and spewing pre-packaged ideology, thinking that somebody cared.

  • Frank /US

    Here are the facts:

  • Wonder

    You have to love the puppets posting here.First of all what right did the Chinese government have to “annex” Tibet to begin with.I read a lot of the Tibetan Monks did this to this person or killed this person. Where is the proof outside of the state run news media?When you can prove this please let the rest of the world know. Until then it would probably be a good idea not to continue to post.Nice thing about state run news, the government controls what is reported. Enjoy your ignorance since it seems that you hold on it so dearly.

  • Xiaodan

    While I personally remain open to all different judgement of Dalai Lama from various parties, onething that should draw world’s attention is the real-fact violence “protestors” did bring to Tibet in mid March.Complicated as the Tibet issue could be, we shouldn’t be blinded about violence and terrorist activities, which should be firmly suppressed in the first place.Securing a safe environment possible for development is critical to Tibet, as well as residents there, of whatever ethnicity they are.

  • aaron silverstein

    a lot of poeple have been murderd becuese of the dalai lama ……not just tibetins but chineas to…….g-d is mad….for both come from noah…

  • timz/AU
  • Mydad

    If Tibet is part of China, any dialogue with Dalai Lama should promote the unification of all ethnical groups across the whole China rather than further divide China. Otherwise, such dialogue would only promote riots. Since Dalai Lama is the leader of Tibetans, unless he quits he should at least take some responsibility for riots happened in Tibet. He lately called for non-violence, which helped the situation but could have come a bit earlier.

  • HYPOCRITICAL

    ONE WORD: HYPOCRITICALHypocritical people should go to hell!Hypocritical media should go to hell!!Hypocritical nation should go to hell!!!

  • Han

    so, Fine! You take a position against 1.3 billion Han Chinese, who are enraged by looting, beating and torching Han Chinese properties by Tibetan mobs.

  • Jonah

    DaLiar Lama… did you ever think that the reason this “does not compute” is because the Dali Lama works for peace and cannot visit Tibet, and the Tibetans that still live there are desperate and have no options left but to protest as forcefully as they are able?

  • Gavin

    Unfortunately, there appears to be too much profit to be made by turning a blind eye and continuing to endorse the games. I only hope that, when applauding the athletic achievements and medals attained, each country can examine its collective conscience and feel satisfied that the the cost in suffering and the prostitution of principles were justified.

  • Mydad

    If Tibet is part of China, any dialogue with Dalai Lama should promote the unification of all ethnical groups across the whole China rather than further divide China. Otherwise, such dialogue would only promote riots. Since Dalai Lama is the leader of Tibetans, unless he quits he should at least take some responsibility for riots happened in Tibet. He lately called for non-violence, which helped the situation but could have come a bit earlier.

  • Mydad

    If Tibet is part of China, any dialogue with Dalai Lama should promote the unification of all ethnical groups across the whole China rather than further divide China. Otherwise, such dialogue would only promote riots. Since Dalai Lama is the leader of Tibetans, unless he quits he should at least take some responsibility for riots happened in Tibet. He lately called for non-violence, which helped the situation but could have come a bit earlier.

  • One American

    FREE IRAQ!Prosecute the CIA! The last time the CIA gave money and arms to “freedom fighters”, two planes crashed somewhere.

  • Ananda

    People from a country where more people are executed than the rest of the world combined try to say Tibetans are brutal! LOL

  • Mydad

    If Tibet is part of China, any dialogue with Dalai Lama should promote the unification of all ethnical groups across the whole China rather than further divide China. Otherwise, such dialogue would only promote riots. Since Dalai Lama is the leader of Tibetans, unless he quits he should at least take some responsibility for riots happened in Tibet. He lately called for non-violence, which helped the situation but could have come a bit earlier.

  • ww88

    Western people now blame China for anything they do, no mattWe Western people now blame China for anything they do, no matter they are good or bad. For this Rioting in Tibet instance, we Western medias had one-sided reports, just ignoring the fact that the Tibetan rioters killing innocent civilian people, burning their shops and schools, throwing stones at barely armed peace keeping policemen, waving knifes on the street, robbing shops… Chinese people just have to bear it, OK? Chinese people just have to listen to this TU TU, OK?? Because I think we Westerners are try to make you China a perfect country, with everything 120% perfect, OK??? Because we Westerners want you China become a country that we can’t find anything to blame of anymore, OK???? As for US, we OK with a 2% perfection, because this TU TU dares not to “Urge” us to do anything, OK????er they are good or bad. For this Rioting in Tibet instence, Chinese people just have to listen to this TU TU, OK??

  • Nice comment

    But does Desmond Tutu really know his friend. I guess the solution is much hard than his supposed “dialogue” or “negotiation”. The problem today is not that simple. HH DL has over the year sent mix messages concerning his intention on Tibet. In the 80s and early 90s, in various statements and books, he stated he wanted to declare indpt. Now, he wants autonomy. In additon, at this time, if the chinese gov negotiate, it would be a sign of weakness giving in to the demands of violent rioters. This is like negotiating with terror for the US gov., and there is no end in that.

  • MD

    Beautifully put.

  • aaron silverstein

    why live in tibet when you can live on a man made island……

  • jado

    wow, Mao´s Fanatic fans and Chopsticks user seemed everywhere.

  • Jerry

    Let’s face it: it is to the interest of the Western countries to see China is smaller and weaker, and they hate and fear the polical system in China, which has made China much stronger in the last 30 years. They fear it, and you can feel from lots of the replies here. They will support anything in their interest.Have you seen any of them condemning those Tibetans who brutally killed innocent people? I guess you will never see that. If they are using double standards, and not playing a fair game, why should China?

  • Horselight

    When i was a child,i knew you,an outstanding leader in the struggle of the South Afican people for their equal rights. i regarded you as a hero at that time in heart.Bset regards

  • Thomas Holloway

    I support the comments of desmond Tutu, one of this planet’s greatest proponents for peace. The Government and people of China must know that the only way to continue on the road to peace and prosperity, not to mention the respect of the entire world, is to refrain from attacking the spiritual people of Tibet, whom China has kept in senseless bondage for many years. China must stop the persecution of the Monks of Tibet who wish only to practice the spiritual tradition which has been the main focus of their civilization for countless decades. China must cease her rhetoric of blame and persecution of the only true Tibetan leader, the Dalai Lama, a figure of peace and a living example of the true spirit of the Tibetan people and the spiritual values they proclaim. If China truly wants to be a friend to the World Community, the place to start is to recognize the rights of all people to worship as they wish.

  • My Tummy Hurts

    Thanks for posting the YouTube video so we can see what the communist propaganda machine is cranking out these days. I support the struggle of the Tibetan people even more now :)

  • Jesus is the only way to salvation

    Dalai Lama is no concern. One of the many false prophets in the end of the days. Chinese people including Tibetans should convert to Christianity. God Bless.

  • Anonymous

    “These so-called innocent Chinese in Tibet should never have been there. Before the Chinese invasion, there were almost zero Han in Tibet. Now there are millions.”Same here in America. Before the europeans extincted the aboriginal Americans, there were almost zero europeans in America.

  • Friends help me please

    Friends as you know China is currently a Christian majority country but still prominent Christian leaders from around the world(apart from Mr. Desmond Tutu) like the Pope or Billy Graham or John Hagee has not said anything on this issue. What do you friends think on this issue ?

  • haha

    Haha!Please keep on screaming and your eyes close while imagining how goodness the western are.

  • Hirsh

    It’s amazing! The China propaganda machinery is trying to hijack this site with pro-China comments. They are trying to drown out all other viewpoints consistent with what they are doing in Tibet and in China itself. But the fact is that this will only enrage people further and increase sympathy for Tibet. The entire argument of these anti-democratic participants rests on:All these points are weak. Tibet was never an intrinsic part of China but only a (sometime) conquered province. China has tried to anhilate Tibetan culture by flooding it with Han people amongst other atrocities. Even if feudalism in Tibet was fact, Tibetans dont want China’s generous help to capture their land and end feudalism any more than Rwanda wants Chinese colonization to end genocide. Lastly, Tibet can get richer without the Chinese who have, in fact, looted Tibet’s riches and polluted their land, culture and environment.

  • TT

    Here are 6 cardinal rules of wester journalism.Rule #1 The chinese are badFollowing my 6 golden rules, you, too, can be a western reporter.

  • Yang

    Tutu, you are wrong, If Tibetan person worked same way as most other Chinese work, can be much better. Why our government spent so much of our money to help them?Let them out and go hell!!!

  • _kt_

    TIBET WASN’T OURS, SAYS CHINESE SCHOLAR:A leading Chinese historian and a veteran of the committee that advises on official Chinese history textbooks has broken step with the official Chinese line on historical sovereignty over Tibet and said that to claim that the ancient Buddhist kingdom “has always been a part of China” would be a “defiance of history”.In an article in the China Review magazine, Professor Ge Jianxiong, 62, director of the Institute of Chinese Historical Geography and the Research Centre for Historical Geographic Studies at Fudan University in Shanghai, states that while considering how big China was during the Tang Dynasty (7th to 10th century), “we cannot include the Qinghai-Tibetan Plateau, which was ruled by Tubo/Tufan…”Tubo/Tufan, notes Ge, “was a sovereignty independent of the Tang Dynasty. At least it was not administered by the Tang Dynasty.” If it were not, he argues, there would have been no need for the Tang emperor of the day to offer Princess Wen Cheng in a “marriage of state” to the Tibetan king, Songtsen Gampo.”It would be a defiance of history,” asserts Ge, “to claim that Tibet has always been a part of China since the Tang Dynasty; the fact that the Qinghai-Tibetan Plateau subsequently became a part of the Chinese dynasties does not substantiate such a claim.”Ge’s article is an exploration of a larger theme of Chinese identity in history — and precisely when it evolved. And his comments on Tibet conform to scholarly accounts that acknowledge that the takeover of Tibet during the Qing Dynasty (17th to early 20th century) was the starting point for “Chinese sovereignty” over the region.Yet, Ge’s comments are controversial insofar as they deviate from the official Communist Party line that Tibet has always been an inalienable part of China; in the past China has regarded as any weakening of that theory as “anti-national” and “split-ist”. It will be interesting to see how the authorities respond to Ge’s scholarly article.Ge’s major research fields include historical population geography, population and migration history, and cultural history. He has written and edited numerous books, and over 100 articles on historical population geography, population and migration history, and cultural history.In his latest article, Ge notes that prior to 1912, when the Republic of China was officially founded, the idea of China (in Chinese, Zhongguo) wasn’t clearly conceptualised. Even during the late Qing period, he writes, the term ‘China’ would on occasion be used to refer to the “Qing State, including all the territory that fell within the boundaries of the Qing empire”; but at other times, it would be taken to refer only to the “18 interior provinces”, excluding Manchuria, Inner Mongolia, Tibet and Xinjiang. Therefore, he argues, “if we want to understand the extent of ancient China’s territory, we can only speak of how large the actual territory controlled by a particular dynasty was at a particular moment.”Noting that notions of a ‘Greater China’ were based entirely on the “one-sided views of Qing court records that were… written for the court’s self-aggrandisement”, Ge criticises those who feel that “the more they exaggerate the territory of historical ‘China’ or China’s successive dynasties and kingdoms, the more patriotic they are.”In fact, he says, the opposite is true. “If China really wishes to rise peacefully and be on a solid footing to face the future, we must understand the sum of our history and learn from our experiences.”March 26, 2008 2:47 PM | Report Offensive Comments****************************************Thanks for posting that. Nice to have some facts on the table. Why do Chinese keep using past atrocities by other countries to justify their current atrocities? Don’t they remember that Japan used those same arguments when they occupied China? I bet China didn’t like those arguments when Japan used them. Western imperialism did not justify Japanese invasion and occupation of China, and neither western nor Japanese imperialism justifies Chinese occupation of Tibet. Slavery was once widespread in Europe and the Americas. Are you going to use that to justify slavery in China? Chinese emperors used to be buried with large numbers of retainers. Are you planning on doing the same for Hu Jintao? Time marches on. The true worth of a civilization is not in its material wealth but in how they treat people. At present, when there are relatively few Han in Tibet, China could give Tibet independence at relatively little cost, and the People’s Republic of China would gain enormous international prestige. Instead, worldwide, people’s feelings about the PRC are turning towards disgust. Tibet is a liability for China. The practical thing to do would be to get rid of Tibet. Great Britain was an imperial power for centuries, but as it matured and civilized, it gave up those possessions. Now the UK is loved even by most of its former colonies. I have never met a citizen of the UK that wishes it still ruled India. China could follow the same path. By voluntarily giving up territory, China would only increase its greatness.

  • Chepra

    I, for 1, am glad to see some posts with balanced view here.If you are bothered by people expressing their opinions, it’s called power of the internet and I suggest you swallow it and jam it down your throat like pills.

  • all 56 ethnical groups are united like one family

    Dear professor:

  • Matthew Nash

    Desmond Tutu, my fellow South African, I couldn’t have put it better myself! Well said. Furthermore, I don’t think that China are aware of what the Olympic Games are truly about. People from all corners of the globe competing against each other in the unity of sport and peace! FREE TIBET!

  • Anthony Monaghan

    Texas should be free of Washington! Cornwall should have its king! Cape Town is oppressed by Pretoria! Australia squats on Tasmania!

  • Anthony Monaghan

    Texas should be free of Washington! Cornwall should have its king! Cape Town is oppressed by Pretoria! Australia squats on Tasmania!

  • adrian

    naive.

  • ok

    a old fool.

  • Rohit

    I think China needs something tougher than a polite message from Bishop Tutu, accompanied by NO concrete demands except “talk”. The Chinese government can talk, to be sure, but their talk is rarely sincere and they do not know how to listen. They equate listening with losing face. Note that Gandhi’s non-violence did not mean, “I will lie down and you can kick me.” He made things difficult for the British without resorting to violence. I hope the EU will decide to boycott the Olympics, or at the very least make their support of it contingent on clear and verifiable conditions to be fulfilled by China.

  • truth-serum

    Dalai Lama is not elected in free elections and would form a religious theocracy as BUSH should say, what is all the fuss.

  • ting_m_1999

    Today Washington Post’s article “Eyewitnesses Recount Terrifying Day in Tibet” clearly stated that it was the Dalai-Lama extremists/terrorists who had committed murdurous crime against the innocent Chinese merchants and that it was not the Chinese who “committed the violence against this civilian population of monastics and lay people”. Your Holiness TuTu, How can you be so uninformed and quick to judge erroneously, ignoring the facts. If you “urge my esteemed friend Louise Arbour, the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights to visit Tibet and be given access to assess…”, did you do the same in regard to USA human right violation in Iraq. If not, your Holiness is not a righteous man but a biased person. Blaming China wrongfully and prejudicially violate God’s Commandment “Thou shalt not bear false witness againast thy neighbor”. The violent murdurous crimes commited by the Dalai-Lama and his fellow extremists’terrorists clearly exposed Dalai-Lama’s pretense of peaceful, tolerant and non-violent preaching, dishonoring the Nobel Peace prize, the US Congressional Gold Medal and all those who approved these honors to him. God will accept your repentance if you so desires. Otherwise your Holiness will not see Him.

  • Daniel of China

    Thank you, Mr.Tutu.

  • Daniel of China

    China should let media and education being independent from party-state-controlledness.

  • Tsongi

    Prohibiting Tibetans from practicing their religion and culture, and killing,torturing and imprisoning them is like handing the Tibetans a can of gasoline with a box of matches. What do the bastard Chinese expect???

  • Neuter

    The user interface design of this forum is REALLY REALLY out of date!!!!Threads of discussions are easily and quickly lost!!!This year is 2008! For God’s sake!I am sure with the resource of Washington Post and Newsweek you can do better!!!Can you spell F-A-C-E-B-O-O-K?Here are my suggestions:1) Add a voting panel with an “agree” and a “disagree” buttons — to get how many people agree / disagree with Desmond Tutu.2) Have a table with 2 columns: one for “Top 10 reasons I agree”, one for “Top 10 reasons I disagree”.I might want to charge a royalty if you actually implement this idea ;-) But then I may donate to a charity …

  • Madeleine

    The Dalai Lama is a great communicator, entrepreneur and propogandist who came to this country backed by a cadre of old wealthy families who had previously ruled Tibet and were aghast at the land reforms and political equality that the then Communist Chinese brought to that country. When he first got to this country, the Dalia Lama was hard put to even understand the basics of what a “democracy” is. After all, it was not personal effort and merit that lifted him to his own exalted position and the leaders of Tibet had always traditonally been to the manor born. But quick study that he is, he soon learned to Dem speak really well, and perhaps more amazingly, he ditched the teachings of Buddha and embraced western cafeteria style pick and chose religion. He has authored and co-authored such a huge number of mindless and idiotic feel good books about religion that I would think that Prof. Thurman would at least blush a little at his over the top praise. Let us all take a deep breath and remember that while the Chinese have shown some disrespect for Tibetan culture, the Dalai Lamai has trivialized the great teaching of Buddhism to the point that people really believe that old wise men go on long treks through the wilderness to seek out baby lamas lit up by stars of fortune, surrounded by animals, christ like, in poor remote hovels buried under twenty feet of snow. And that this little lama baby is a new container for the transmigrated life of a previous lama. When in fact that is disfunctional Tibetan myth, a folk tradition that is an anathema to the magnificent humanity of Buddhism which sees all beings as equal, as is the concept of a “Lama” which is also just part of Tibetan folk traditions and pagan beliefs. It is an outrage that this man, who so many in our society believe to be the mouth piece of Buddhism, has allowed these melodramatic superstitions, meant to keep the poor in their place and guarantee the continuance of upper class leadership, has been exalted by society as a man of peace, and even praised by a scholar like Prof Thurman – who, after all, really should know better.

  • Tim

    中华人民共和国万岁!世界人民大团结万岁!

  • Dan DeMaioNewton

    Having listened to Bishop Tutu as he helped promote one of the most peaceful changes in human history in South Africa, I feel inspired that there remain people with such compassion, such courage, and such immense wisdom. His words ring true, are practical, and are based on his direct relationships. My wish is that China listen to Bishop Tutu and follow his advice. It will be better for China, Tibet, and the many people who are innocently caught in this political oppression.

  • Oran

    If you didn’t get the truth, you just would make wrong things. And you do.

  • a chinese

    To Desmond Tutu:you gave some suggestions to the chinese government , but why don’t you gave some to the Dalai Lama?you say Dalai Lama is a Nobel peace laureate,but have you noticed that what happened in TIbet has nothing to do with peace. They are mobs, who loot,burn and kill. Nobel peace laureate is a prize gaven by westerners. If Hitler defeated soviet union, westerners may also gave it to him. The reason is very simple: the Prize is a tool of politics. By the way, I am an ordinary chinese and most chinese hold the same opinion with me.

  • Z.W.

    If you rely on media to get to know the news, you can never see the real picture of truth. No matter the Chinese media, or the western Media.I have a friend working in BBC. He told me that their unwritten rule is not reporting any “good news” of countries including China, Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam, etc. I have Tibetan friends who love their motherland of China very much. I also have Tibetan friends who think they don’t belong to this country. But when asking for their reasons. Those anti-Chinese govenment Tibetan friends actually cannot give any, but say that its the statement of Dalai, and they MUST follow because their religion.

  • A chinese

    Just like I know nothing about you,even you are a Nobel Peace Prize winner, you may also know little about chinese history, even China is now so frequently mentioned.If that, I strongly ask you to get yourself familiar with the history of our country before you declare you stand with your dear friend Dalai Lama.

  • inner peace

    Dear Tutu,

  • Chin Han

    If you claim to be half God, or representing God, or can act like God, say God told this or that and telling people what to do because God said so to you. Really, you have to be crazy and you are a pratical liar. God may not agree with you if he is next to you. What good is it to have a dialogue with a liar or a mad man, TuTu YoYo ? Fooling people around ?

  • Rodrick

    I believe that you have never been to neither China nor Tibet.So why not shut up your mouth and go to there and seek the truth?

  • Tell you the truth

    The hypocritical western media deceived a Nobel Peace Prize winner. So interesting

  • zhang ning 张宁

    I am a Han-Chinese living in Tibet for very long time. I 100% support Archbishop Tutu’s statement . The recent event reflects the total failure of CCP’s tibet and ethical minority policy. Although I don’t think simply boycott Beijing olympic would be a good idea for the cause, because it might close the possibility of conversation between CCP and international community and leave huge space for CCP to manipulate the opinions within China and push itself into more unreasonable direction. For my personal opinion, the better idea is to go to Beijng in august and start to try to make pressure or open conversation on several level on spot.

  • Free Tibet from the lamas

    “Free Tibet”??? Are you kidding me – Tibet has been free for the last 50 yrs. That’s right, it’s been free of slaves and the ruling lamas since PRC took control of it…

  • The faithful

    By calling Dalai Lama His Holiness, Bishop Tutu has acknowledged Dalai Lama as God Incarnate, as Dalai claims himself to be. This is blasphemy and insult to God Almighty. If he wants to acknowledge Dalai Lama as His Holiness, Tutu should first resign his position in the Church. Tutu has violated his own oath to serve the Lord faithfully by writing this article. He is in no position to talk politics. Tutu has given up his priestly duty to political expediency. Tutu should repent and ask for forgiveness of the Church.

  • The faithful

    By calling Dalai Lama His Holiness, Bishop Tutu has acknowledged Dalai Lama as God Incarnate, as Dalai claims himself to be. This is blasphemy and insult to God Almighty. If he wants to acknowledge Dalai Lama as His Holiness, Tutu should first resign his position in the Church. Tutu has violated his own oath to serve the Lord faithfully by writing this article. He is in no position to talk politics. Tutu has given up his priestly duty to political expediency. Tutu should repent and ask for forgiveness of the Church.

  • Tim Dunn

    Joseph Goebbels, head of the Nazi Propaganda ministry, wrote the following in an article dated 18 March 1939, “As the Führer finished his proclamation to the German (sic) at 5 a.m. an historical decision had taken place. Shortly after, radio stations told the world that the historic provinces of Bohemia and Moravia had returned to the federation of the Greater German Reich. State President Hacha himself had asked the Führer to assume the protection of these provinces, noting that he “was confidently placing the fate of the Czech people and nation in the hands of the Führer of the German Reich. The so-called Czecho-Slovakia ceased to exist. In a single night a nation vanished that in reality had never been a nation.” Sound familiar? Maybe a little like Chinese government pronouncements that Tibet is and always has been part of China? Those representatives of other governments that hasten to reassure the Chinese government that they agree remind me of Neville Chamberlain, as well. “Peace in our time!” Unless, of course, you happen to be Czechoslovakian, or Tibetan. Doesn’t the Chinese government say that Taiwan is also part of China? I wonder just how long “our time” is, anyway. I’m sure the Taiwanese must wonder.

  • Tibetan Lama = Spanish Inquisitors

    Just as some Germans today still look upon the Nazi era with nostalgia, so too are some backward looking Tibetans who longed for the return to the days when the Lamas ruled with impunity. Far from being peace loving, these Lamas would make the Spanish Inquisitors look like bunch of girl scouts. Yea, that’s right Tibet was in the dark ages before the PRC took control of it in 1959.

  • susie

    Tutu, a man with similar scar does not necessarily stands in the same trench with you. lift his cover and find the truth. you may be shocked when you see the facts on the ground.

  • DVD

    I don’t have a problem with the Chinese people in general. It is the communist government that is at the root of the problems. These big shots want to hang on to power at any cost and with the communist party membership, they – of course there are a few exceptions – enjoy privileges that most of the common folks can only dream. Such privileges cause/result in corruptions from the local government all the way up to the national, central level. On the surface, these high power party members may look clean and pure, but they are very corrupted by having their relatives to open businesses on their behalf (of course, they influence the outcome/decision of the bidding contracts, for example) so as to get rich. In other cases, the corrupted government officials would collectively force the commoners to vacate their homes to make room for some public projects and compensate the people poorly. Once the people are evicted, even forcefully, these officials would turn around to sell the land to private businesses or real estate companies at the price of many times higher than their victims are compensated initially. There are innumerable atrocities, frauds, bribes, …, happening under the suppressive, dictatorial regimes such as China, Cuba, Vietnam, North Korea. Reasons are that there is no real freedom; the communist party (they don’t tolerate any party other than theirs) makes the laws, carries out the laws and judges the laws.Anyway, to keep the comments short, let me get to the point. Communist China, one of the leaders of the pack (Russia or the old Soviet Union is another), is an intolerant, abusive, greedy and ambitious government. They even suppress their own Chinese citizens – those that dare to speak up and voice their dissident opinions – so why should they care about Tibetans?History witnesses communist China’s actions toward other countries:- supports the disgusted and tyrannical government in Burma/Myanmar for access to Burma’s vast and rich resources that are mishandled by the Burmese atrocious generals.- supports the theological Iran in the nuclear standoff with the West. Again, oil is involved to quench China’s thirst to run its red-hot economy which is invested by the West.- shoots Vietnamese fishermen on the high seas in Vietnam’s territory (but China claims to have indisputable evidence of China’s territory in order to gobble up Vietnam’s islands. Just like its claims that it has indisputable evidence that the Dalai Lama is behind the current crisis in Tibet; however, when pressed further, China cannot show anything concrete except verbal lies). Killing innocent fishermen for unjust deterrence.- does businesses with the West to achieve trade surplus in trillions of dollars in reserves, but at the same time China spies to steal high technologies: weapon systems, space programs and other companies’ know-how’s. China’s armed forces would not be anywhere near today without stolen high techs. Also pirates movies and music without regards for intellectual properties.- exports junked goods (serrated Firestone? tires), foods (pet foods to the US, poisonous dumplings to Japan), medicines (ethylene glycol-filled cough syrup to Panama, ethylene glycol toothpaste, counterfeited heparins to US and Germany), dangerous toys (painted with lead-based paints). When confronted, the usual response is “What are you talking about? Our lab test results on the samples are negative.” Only when collectively confirmed by a number of nations’ positive test results then it would admit its dishonest deeds.(to be continued) …

  • aaron silverstein

    the dali lama wants tibetens to build a man made island in the ocean……a new tibet….

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  • Hans

    Let’s see: paranoid rulers forbid members of a religion to recognize their traditional, spiritual leader, and proceed to “oversee” the religion, appoint or approved religious leaders, ban certain religious customs, control religious property and monsateries, etc. Tibet? Yes. But also England in the 16th century, when Henry VIII told Roman Catholics (also for political reasons) that he was running the show. If it’s wrong now in Tibet, then it was wrong in England then. Perhaps Anglicans will return confiscated churches to Roman Catholics and the “official” church will disenfranchise itself in the name of fairness and religious liberty? Ha.

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