Why We Need a New Jesus

Searching for the real Jesus has been a growth industry and an obsession for several decades now. We read about … Continued

Searching for the real Jesus has been a growth industry and an obsession for several decades now. We read about “discovering” the tomb of Joseph and Mary the way medieval pilgrims heard that the head of John the Baptist had just surfaced in a French cathedral. The difference is that modern Christians want scientific, historical proof that Jesus walked the earth, and for many believers such proof supports their conviction that the New Testament is literally true in every detail.

Yet in almost every respect the hunt for the real Jesus is misguided. To begin with, there are two conflicting versions of Jesus, neither of which can be unearthed in an archeological dig. The first Jesus is the historical rabbi who wandered the northern shores of Galilee two thousand years ago. His public career lasted no more than three years, scholars inform us, and may have been as brief as eighteen months. The first Jesus disappeared in the shifting sands of time, leaving barely a footprint in history.

Yet so great was his impact that a second Jesus arose almost immediately, the Jesus of theology – the Son of God, the Holy Spirit. Anointed as Christ, he became the unwitting origin of a religion that has proliferated into more than 20,000 sects. The second Jesus was created by organized religion and cannot be approached without bushwhacking through the thickets of theology.

Many believers are satisfied with one or the other Jesus, and yet millions are not. They have witnessed their faith being hijacked by rigid fundamentalism. A teaching of love and peace has been perverted to justify war and bigotry. These deeply disturbing trends speak of a single radical need: the need for a new Jesus. In particular, there’s a hunger that has existed as long as the Church itself, which is a hunger to relate to Jesus personally. Although not raised as a Christian, I went to a Catholic-run missionary school in India and fell under the romantic spell of a universal Savior. I wanted to know, as anyone would, how to fulfill Jesus’s promise that the Kingdom of Heaven is within.

That desire lingered over the years, until it occurred to me that Jesus can be taken as a savior without being the savior. He can be accepted as a teacher speaking directly to me in the present moment. Such a teacher needs to cause total personal transformation. What Jesus envisioned was a world ruled by God, which cannot occur unless human nature changes radically. In everyday life Jesus’s teachings are impossible to follow. Ordinary awareness doesn’t permit us to follow the Golden Rule. If we treated everyone else the way we wanted to be treated, there would be no wars, crime, or divorce. If we obeyed the injunction to resist not evil, all too probably the world’s evil-doers would run amok.

What this implies is that there was a third Jesus, a teacher of higher consciousness. He wanted to raise his followers to the same level of God consciousness that he was in. Only then is Christian doctrine livable. If that sounds like blasphemy, consider John 10:34. The priests in the Temple wanted to stone Jesus for blasphemy when he claimed to be the Son of God, and he gave a startling reply: Jesus answered, ‘Is it not written in your law,” I said, you are gods”? He quotes Psalms 82 to argue that if scripture makes everyone a god, he cannot be blaspheming to make the same claim for himself. In many other places Jesus calls his disciples “the light of the world,” and he promises that they will perform miracles greater than his.

Years ago I ran across a book that intrigued me called “Be Your Own Guru.” In a liberated age, that’s an enticing offer. However, your personal vision must come from a deeper value structure – call it myth, archetype, or the wisdom tradition – and Jesus stands as one of the high peaks of that invisible structure. God-consciousness will never perish. Since Jesus once embodied God-consciousness, he is keeping it alive at this moment, offering to teach the way to anyone who wants to find it.

Deepak Chopra is founder of the Chopra Center for Wellbeing in California. Chopra’s Wellness Radio airs weekly on Sirius Satellite Stars. He is president and founder of the Alliance for a New Humanity. He has written more than 50 books, including his latest, “The Third Jesus: The Christ We Cannot Ignore.” Go here to read an excerpt.

  • RH

    A good essay and along the lines of what I’ve long believed. I believe when Jesus said “the kingdom of God is near” he meant it was within reach, attainable by all. Near in place, not a coming event near in time. “Believe in me”, in my opinion, had less to do with “worship me as your savior” and more to do with follow his teachings and guidance. God, peace, and love are within us.One nit-pick: Christianity hasn’t been hijacked (recently). From the time of its widespread adoption and endorsement from political and military leaders, it’s been perverted to justify war and bigotry. Nothing new there. Most religions have been tools to gain, consolidate, and preserve power and influence; Christianity is no different in that regard.

  • artistkvip

    i like your questions…

  • betsy

    We don’t need a “new Jesus” so much as we need for Jesus to restate His positions: the Kingdom of God is within you; as ye sow, so shall ye reap; these (miracles)and more will you do; do unto others what you would have them do unto you.If it is true that Jesus is now back in the everyday world, appearing to everyday folks, and preparing for a public mission once more, wouldn’t it be worthwhile to listen up? Wouldn’t it be worthwhile to research this most wonderful development?Most Christians believe in the idea of Jesus, and even His return sometime in the distant future, but maybe could not accept the now worldwide rumour that He is among us once more. Think of what that would mean for our political, social, and most important economic life?

  • april

    Danilo-Thanks for your post which documents the changing power of Christ Jesus: the same yesterday, today, and forever.Nothing has changed in 2000+ years:For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.1 Corinthians 1:22-25

  • Roy

    We don’t need a new Jesus, we need the original one who has been hijacked by neochristians who cherry-pick scriptures from Leviticus to judge, hate and exclude those different from themselves.

  • Pastafarian

    may he touch you with is noodly appendage [ Pirates 10:25]

  • betsy

    Roy, Well said. It seems that competition drives Christian culture just as it does commerce. If

  • Robert B.

    According to Scripture, we won’t get another Jesus until the End of Days. What we need, perhaps, is another Francis of Assisi, a man who truly understood the message of Christ and preached it with his mouth and his deeds.

  • Angela

    Deepak: I must admit, I didn’t even read this as I saw you on a Larry King live interview with John McArthur and I must tell you I was saddened but not shocked by what I heard by YOU. You speak like there’s no wide road that leads to destruction. Your teaching is destructive, I don’t have to read this as I believe you said we make Jesus to be a Tribal Judge. We are very aware of the likes of so called prophets/teachers called by God(whomever you say HE is)…Food for Thought: Jeremiah 23:16-20: 16 This is what the LORD Almighty says: “Do not listen to what the prophets are prophesying to you; they fill you with false hopes. They speak visions from their own minds, not from the mouth of the LORD. 17 They keep saying to those who despise me, ‘The LORD says: You will have peace.’ And to all who follow the stubbornness of their hearts they say, ‘No harm will come to you.’ 18 But which of them has stood in the council of the LORD to see or to hear his word? Who has listened and heard his word? 19 See, the storm of the LORD will burst out in wrath, a whirlwind swirling down on the heads of the wicked. 20 The anger of the LORD will not turn back until he fully accomplishes the purposes of his heart. In days to come you will understand it clearly.

  • Anonymous

    What we need is more intelligent and compassionate humans that are able to think for themselves apart from messianic confabulations and religious credos…..the golden rule is a very good place to start. Never has there been a better commandment anywhere in the religious universe.

  • G.D. Wymer

    Another Jesus? Please, Mr. Chopra, no thank you. Let’s keep the Jesus where he belongs in myth or history or archetype as you might prefer. Thinking people of the emerging humanist inclination do not need another idol. We need free thinking and a truly public philosophy based on real human needs and real human nature as we discover what that means in all its aspects. While the religions of the world may serve some structural/functional purpose for many, we shall see, and this will be our only way to survive at this point, a move away from the very archetype of religion itself. Let us as humans living on an increasingly smaller planet engage each other without all this baggage of belief in the tired old tropes of religion. I want reason, compassion, learning and the actions that might follow; I want no new Jesus. And I won’t be purchasing your latest book, Mr. Chopra.

  • Robert B.

    G.D. Wymer wrote: “Thinking people of the emerging humanist inclination do not need another idol.”So religious people aren’t thinkers? Tell that the vast majority of thinkers throughout history…Anti-theists like yourself do have an idol, by the way. You idolize Reason itself, much like Robespierre did in the 1790s.

  • Michael

    The world needs more Jesus’s and fewer dogmatic Christians. Who would Jesus waterboard?

  • Anonymous

    Wannabe Huckabee is a ‘SPOILER”! And He love the Lime-light, Photogs, attention, secret Service arraingements, and Best of all, since he is a’Minister’ Of EVERYTHING, that he has grown a great big Following since his Presidential Debut!In other Words, he is sucking ‘The Secular System’ for his potential ‘Religious Systems’!Down with ‘Pre-Apocalyptarian’ politicions!Goodbye [Pre-Apocvalyptic] EVANGELiCAl CHURCHES of sweet sweet A*M*E*R*i*C*A & elswhere!

  • B-man

    We do need a new Jesus–it’s called “enlightenment”, or God-consciousness, as Deepok refers to it, and Gautama Buddha was as good a messenger for this consciousness as anyone.It seems that America needs to go through another Renaissance, another “Age of Reason”, where we as a populace can put these bronze-age myths behind us once and for all, and delve ever more deeply into science, knowledge, and spiritual development.

  • Robert B.

    Well, apparently Jovenz is alive and well after Romney’s endorsement of McCain…:)

  • Jm

    Mexico is full of Jesus’s, surely they can spare a few?

  • Anonymous

    Thank You , B-MaN! Thank you!

  • Michael

    JM,

  • JM

    Well, we could him remotely couldn’t we? isn’t that what the internet is for?

  • John

    Angela,You speak with such certainty on matters where the reality is none of us know the absolute truth. Do you know something we don’t or is this just your personal interpretation of scripture?

  • Fred Evil

    The LAST thing we need is another Jesus. How many versions of the same fantasy can we tolerate?We need FEWER Jesus’s, and more reality.

  • Angela

    John, May I ask you if you are certain if you’ll go to heaven or is that an uncertainty. Do you believe that there’s nothing that’s absolution or is everything relative or “that’s your opintion”.

  • mo

    digging in the relics!!!.please aim high and look for the creator of this universe .in order to mesh right in this perfect universe you need to practice the perfect word of the creator of this universe .the old and new wax clone museum would,not take humanity any where but the hill fire.

  • irishjazz

    If only we could find a best-selling New Age windbag to take his place…There is a certain amount of truth in what Chopra says, but he drives past it so quickly toward his “Third Jesus of Higher Consciousness” that it is barely a blur. New wolf. Same sheep’s clothing.

  • Clayton P. Bullröhr

    Here’s the heads-up, Dr. Chopra. Barack Obama has a lock on the rôle.

  • Vinay

    Way above my head, Mr. Chopra. You certainly do not speak in layman’s terms. Too deep for me. I never buy your book.You said Jesus has been hijacked by its practitioners…..You and I, both Hindus, left our birthplace for this Christian country like millions of others. Who has hijacked Jesus? Certainly not Americans.What is your opinion on Islam? Do you have the guts to criticize it? Or you are more like Arun Gandhi?How about Hinduism with all the dowry, caste system, female infanticide….?

  • JBE

    Regardless of whom is considered a prophet, or messiah, or son of god, evil minds will use such an individual’s history to further their own crimes of hate, avarice, greed, lust, and personal enrichment.EVERY religion has human leeches attaching themselves to it.Lately, those leeching off of the prophet Mohammad have usurped even the evangelical scum of Ted Haggard and George Bush for most detrimental leeches to the world.OK- Maybe Tom Cruise is making inroads on the muslim clergy, but you know, its gonna happen in every religion.

  • Mike

    Since when does new age gobbly-gook make for serious editorials on the Wash Post? This stuff is laughable. Right, Deepak, some Christians did bad things in the name of Christ. Everyone who believes His teachings about being the Messiah are bigots, blah, blah. If this is what passes for serious opposition to the Faith, I don’t think Historic Christianity has much to worry about. So what else is on TV today?

  • Corpt

    You know, it isn’t just that so many of the religions around the world are corrupted, it’s because they are so corruptible. In fact they are corruption itself. Any human endeavor which can’t stand the light of day (reason) and instead exists on blind unquestioning faith – as a Virtue, is corruption by definition.You just gotta love it when one religion claims the others are man-made or invented or phony, just love it.

  • dcguy

    If the kingdom of heaven is within, then we don’t need one, two, three, any Jesus.

  • James Craten

    We do NOT need a new Jesus; we need universal belief, request for our forgiveness and, commitment to the original Jesus who died for our sins and made possible our redemption. As for the bigotry, wars, hurt, etc., the Bible informs us that they will continue to occur until the Lord’s return to judge the living and the dead and form the new age.

  • James Craten

    We do NOT need a new Jesus; we need universal belief, request for our forgiveness and, commitment to the original Jesus who died for our sins and made possible our redemption. As for the bigotry, wars, hurt, etc., the Bible informs us that they will continue to occur until the Lord’s return to judge the living and the dead and form the new age.

  • david deufel

    La Allah il y Allah, There is no God but God. The belief in the Holy Spirit is paramount and pervasive. God is omnipotent. Deepak, the guru-gone-awry guy, is merely one of billions who want to re-invent the Alighty in their image. He goes beyond being simply sacreligous; Chopra is Jim Jones, Jim Bakker, Jimmy Swaggert, Joel Osteen and Ernest Angley all wrapped into one devilish handsome, smooth, suave, slick, articulate, grand deceiver. He is the Ayatollah of the Me-First Generation. What part of I AM The WAY…does he and countless others Not Understand? He is just like the Swami who says I will show you the SOURCE if you give me $25 dollars. Are we sure this guy wasn’t in the MITCHELL report? Egads!?!?!

  • J. Craten

    We do NOT need a new Jesus; we need universal belief, request for our forgiveness and, commitment to the original Jesus who died for our sins and made possible our redemption. As for the bigotry, wars, hurt, etc., the Bible informs us that they will continue to occur until the Lord’s return to judge the living and the dead and form the new age.

  • J. Craten

    We do NOT need a new Jesus; we need universal belief, request for our forgiveness and, commitment to the original Jesus who died for our sins and made possible our redemption. As for the bigotry, wars, hurt, etc., the Bible informs us that they will continue to occur until the Lord’s return to judge the living and the dead and form the new age.

  • J. Craten

    We do NOT need a new Jesus; we need universal belief, request for our forgiveness and, commitment to the original Jesus who died for our sins and made possible our redemption. As for the bigotry, wars, hurt, etc., the Bible informs us that they will continue to occur until the Lord’s return to judge the living and the dead and form the new age.

  • Campbellite

    Congratulations. You’re a Gnostic. :)

  • feminatty

    The last thing humanity needs is another messiah. Unless of course a savior comes along with the message, “save yourself”.

  • Doug Wildman

    “A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic – on the level with a man who says he is a poached egg – or he would be the devil of hell. You must take your choice. Either this was, and is, the Son of God, or else a madman or something worse. You can shut Him up for a fool or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come with any patronizing nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us.” C.S. Lewis

  • Matthew

    I think there is need for a new God, not a new Jesus. Many of the teachings of the person Jesus have been preserved. They are within the Bible, and within the Apocrypha and the Nag-Hammadi library. Many of Jesus’ teachings about the mysteries can be found in those suppressed gospels.Unfortunately, the popular conception of God is misguided. An anthropomorphic God simply does not make sense on a literal level. God IS within all of us, because we are all part of it. God is that sustaining and creating force that is within all matter and all ideas, and all natural laws and things. To understand God as a being that is conscious in a human sense is to totally miss the point. The stories of the Old Testament are strictly metaphorical.To take them literally is to believe in a God that could not exist.The problem, I think, is that people are trying to get in touch with the wrong God. This leads to anxiety and despair for many intelligent people, because they cannot make contact with a God who isn’t real. Their prayers go unanswered, not because a being hears them (at least, not in a human sense) and then refuses to listen, but because they expect the wrong things from the wrong being. Perhaps this new Jesus which Mr. Chopra advocates above might shed some light on a more true conception of God, but before understanding what Jesus was saying, one must first understand what God is. Further, the dogma of the church does not help with understanding. Why must we read only what Athanasius and a few early church councils have prescribed for us as the canon? We should read everything we can about Jesus, if we truly believe. Why is the church more sanctified than our own hearts? Why should their tabernacles be more holy than our homes? They have the same scriptures we do.I think Mr. (Dr.?) Chopra is right in that we need to consider the mystical implications of Jesus’ teaching. Unfortunately, it is precisely this mysticism that has been suppressed by the church, because it is dangerous. It’s dangerous because everyone can find out for themselves how to live with God in our hearts and minds, and the church will have no control over the mysteries of God. When really our priests should be guides and teachers that help people become one with God. They should be mystical guides, not curriculum followers.

  • Sonel

    My…my..my. I only read your article because it caught my eye with tht title. Half of it makes no sense to me at all. First, there is ONE and only ONE Jesus and there will never be another. If coming here on earth living a sinless life, dying and rising for our benefit, and restoring us to be just like him(FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO!)…what else do you want him to do??? Our world situation is a direct result of OUR failure to obey. The wages of sin have always been death and will continue to be. That doesn’t only denote a physical death. That could include opportunities, relationships…etc.It is going to get worse. We are also warned of people such as yourself those with “foolish and unlearned questions. And lastly, ANYONE who questions the holiness of Jesus the Christ I pray that you will allow Jesus in your heart and he will answer anything you needs because there is nothing new under the sun.

  • Hal Itozis

    As a gay man, I am repulsed by the co-opting of the ideals of the real Jesus – love of thy neighbor, treating all as equals – by the radical right wing “christians” and the heirarchy of the catholic church. The real Jesus would upend the silk-lined tables of the profiteers of poison (i.e. Pat Robertson, James Dobson)and instruct all to stop the bigotry that dominates the cash-cow church pulpits of today.

  • Sonel

    My…my..my. I only read your article because it caught my eye with tht title. Half of it makes no sense to me at all. First, there is ONE and only ONE Jesus and there will never be another. If coming here on earth living a sinless life, dying and rising for our benefit, and restoring us to be just like him(FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO!)…what else do you want him to do??? Our world situation is a direct result of OUR failure to obey. The wages of sin have always been death and will continue to be. That doesn’t only denote a physical death. That could include opportunities, relationships…etc.It is going to get worse. We are also warned of people such as yourself those with “foolish and unlearned questions. And lastly, ANYONE who questions the holiness of Jesus the Christ I pray that you will allow Jesus in your heart and he will answer anything you needs because there is nothing new under the sun.

  • Angela

    Doug Wildman.Very well put. I call him LORD and MASTER and MOST OF ALL, I CALL HIM THE LIVING GOD.

  • Arnab Gupta

    More mumbo-jumbo (actually this whole on-faith thing itself is a mumbo-jumbo) from a questionable person who pimps a distorted version of India’s culture abroad and once made a claim that you can fly while doing yoga. I am constantly amazed by the amount of free press given to the complete idiotic statements that come out from “people of faith”. These faiths are at the roots of most of the problems in today’s world – but look at the benefit of doubt they get. Can you imagine Castro or some bozo communist somewhere in China being given free space to discuss how godless communism is not so bad after all and that it is the practitioners who give that godless faith a bad name ? If idiocy rules, why leave Communism just because it does not have a “faith” in God ?

  • Kamal K. Mittal, D.V.M., Ph.D.

    Answers to Dr. Deepak Chopra’s posting may easily be found by reading a master piece of the modern age, “AUTOBIOGRAPHY OF A YOGI”, by Paramahansa Yogananda, who explains how Jesus the man, became Christ the Cosmic Intelligence, by gaining Cosmic Consciousness through meditation. The same author has written “The Second Coming of Christ, The Resurrection of Christ Within You”, in two volumes. Someone of the caliber of Dr. Chopra would greatly and rapidly advance his understanding of Jesus Christ, the Avatar, by reading this revelatory commentary on the original teachings of Jesus. Humbly – kamal

  • Sam Chappell

    Who wrote “Be Your Own Guru”?Thank you.

  • SONJA

    My…my..my. I only read your article because it caught my eye with tht title. Half of it makes no sense to me at all. First, there is ONE and only ONE Jesus and there will never be another. If coming here on earth living a sinless life, dying and rising for our benefit, and restoring us to be just like him(FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO!)…what else do you want him to do??? Our world situation is a direct result of OUR failure to obey. The wages of sin have always been death and will continue to be. That doesn’t only denote a physical death. That could include opportunities, relationships…etc.

  • Angela

    Mr. Hal Itozis,I’m so sorry you feel that evangelical Christians are bigots. I happen to be an evangelical Christian. In no way do I believe that James Dobson teaches bigotry. However, if you have a friend that you love oh so dearly but your standard for everything in life is from Gods’ word and that WORD states that your lifestyle is something that the Lord finds to be in a word “abonimable” then you chose to just love them. Say if your son or daughter lived a life that you didn’t agree with and you were the judge of this universe, you would still love them but hope that they would see it through your eyes. James Dobson is one of the godly men on this planet who lives by the word of God and speaks the truth, in love. We are all taught to love thy neighbor as yourself, bless those who curse us and most of all forgive as our heavenly father has forgiven us.

  • Bill Tetzeli

    I disagree profoundly with much of what you say. I bear you no ill will, but will only say I think you’re very, very wrong.

  • Abdul – Kadir O. Etuazim

    I enjoyed reading this wonderful and thought provoking piece by a great mind of our time. I was born a catholic, converted to Islam and I am now a world religionist. All my quests pointed to one direction: All religions are the same – avenues to greater self awareness. The tensions between religions today has to do with, amongst other factors, a linear and absolute world view.As a world religions practitioner, I find aspects of the greater truth in all religions. Seeming disagreements are relative in terms of era of the message and most importantly, INTRODUCTION OF PERSONAL AND GROUP CONTROL AGENDA into the arena.

  • What

    This guy needs Jesus. Jesus never condoned bigotry. There is a way that seems right unto a man. meaning that you might think your way is best but don’t you know that the person who created us all knows what is best for us. He knows your thoughts before you think them. The Jesus of old is enough for me. I agree with everything Jesus said to do and if you do what he has told us we would be better off. However, we have always tried going against God and therefore that has caused the mess of the world. Let’s keep the old Jesus and how about we change.

  • PCB

    I refuse to take seriously anything from this man, least of all a call to selflessness. He lives a sybaritic lifestyle (if you Google him I’m sure you can find a picture of him in his Ferrari.) The man is a New Age fraudster, in my humble opinion (just in case good ol’ Deepak’s attorneys are reading this.)

  • lindafranke1952

    Susan Jacoby is so correct. Not many want to read or research for themselves. Why spend their personal time reading? They would rather stand on the sidelines and wait for someone to spew their “truth”. Sad indeed.

  • alex castruita

    This sure is a sad self promoting letter. Sad because the writer is so mis informed. Even more sad is the fact that people will listen to a person like this because of lack of interest in reading a well preserved factual book called the BIBLE. The manuscripts found that prove prophecy in the Bible is true and without error are ancient and authenticated. This writer will never be able to tell the future without error so why even consider for one moment to take his opinions seriously over the proven text of the Word of God (the Bible). Who actually spends hard earned money to read this person Deepak?? sad

  • What

    AMEN Angela. Simple and to the point.

  • sceptic

    I do not think we have a choice really about what kind of Jesus we should or shouldn’t keep – old/new/religious/new age/humanist/etc. Did Jesus leave us that option? For all of scholarship, both historical and religious, has given us is just different views of the Jesus portrayed in the Gospels. Since that remains the primary source for most scholarship about Jesus, and dissections resections etc stem from that, maybe it is simpler to just read the Gospels, each one of us for ourselves, before we can make claims?

  • Sully

    No new Jesus needed, or the old one. The Golden Rule is all people need and is accepted by most people of all cultures. It really is the most basic human theology. The Golden Rule has no god or idol to pray to in order to obtain favors or wish harm on others. No miracles or magic to change your situation. And no coffers to fill with money to maintain the meaning of the rule. No one to excuse your behavior and absolve you.The Golden Rule has no requirements except on the *results* of your actions and inactions. If you sin you cannot be forgiven except by the person you sinned against. The Golden Rule requires accountability, something Jesus actually preached but his churches created loop holes to escape both for the church and its followers. How many Catholics are absolved of their sins each week? Even sins they would repeat?But those who follow the Golden Rule are less likely to sin, because sin cannot be washed away. You must live with the results of your actions, and that is the deterent to sin and the structure that provides a path to happiness by thinking of others before you act. Follow it and you will be happy. Its really that simple. And please don’t insult the meaning or integrity of the Golden Rule by calling it a religion. Its basic human nature spelled out in a simple to understand sentance that no one to date has disagreed with, just ignored to their detrement.

  • frank collins

    your first and second Jesus are one in the same. nice try.

  • Chaotician

    Yo! If Jesus is to have any usefulness in the 21st century and beyond, we have to throw the mythology of the gazillion versions of that so-called book of GOD called the Bible…away! It is an unusable document for anything but bigotry, insanity, and hypocrisy. I love it whne those who claim the Bible is literally true begin every other sentence with those imortal words “And that means…..” or another words those literal bibical words do NOT mean what they say unless and until I tell you what they are “literally” saying…or meaning! It is even more ridiculus when those same folks delve into the hoary Christianized “Old Testament” Bible which bears limited correlations with the Jewish Torah from which it originated to “find” the “truth” about the “mind” and “intentions” of GOD!Jesus is quoted in the Bible, the “lost” documents of the Dead Sea scrolls, the known contemporary Rabbis of his particular Jewish philosophy to have believed that GOD was within each human, available to each man in the same way that Jesus had found GOD, and that each man could have the same attainment as Jesus…another words Jesus was no greater than YOU and YOU are as great as Jesus if you choose.It is one of those simple truths of Jesus that the temples(CHURCHES), the Priests, and the Elders were obstacles to God realization…not helpers. The Priests are particular problems as their very existence and purpose depends on them convincing YOU that the only way to GOD is through them and with your support of the priests.The Evangelical movement is especially wrong as it is successfully preying on the modern insecurities with its machivellian twisting of scriptures from the Jewish conquest of Judah to fit the modern society as some literal truth that allows the perverted teachings of a humble, poor based, non violent man to be used to build their McMansions, drive their private jets, and generally have a good ole time on their followers dime!

  • Thomas Baum

    TO DEEPAK CHOPRA: You wrote, ” If we treated everyone else the way we wanted to be treated, there would be no wars, crime, or divorce.”, this is a total distortion of what Jesus said and taught. What Jesus said was for us, individually, to do it. Jesus did not say that we would be treated the way we wanted to be treated if we treated others that way, did He? You also wrote, “the Jesus of theology – the Son of God, the Holy Spirit. Anointed as Christ,”, Jesus said that, “He would send the Holy Spirit to guide us into all Truth”, He didn’t say He was the Holy Spirit. We are all made in the ‘Image and Likeness’ of God which is LOVE, but we are not God. Jesus was made in the Image and Likeness of God and He was God and is God and always will be God. God is ONE and God is a Trinity and God is a Being of Pure Love. God is not a loving God, as in love being an attribute of God but He is LOVE. We are all sons and daughters of God and since God became One of Us, we are also brothers and sisters of God and of each other. Since we are all members of God’s Family, does it not seem that we are a rather unruly family? God is a searcher of hearts and minds not of religious affiliations or lack thereof. It is important what you do and why you do it and what you know. God has a Plan and His Plan will come to Fruition in God’s Time, God’s Plan is for all of humanity to be with Him in His Kingdom. As Jesus said, “My Kingdom is not of this world”, the bible also speaks of ‘new heavens and a new earth’ that will be at the dawning of the seventh day but the night of the sixth day will decend upon us. Take care, be ready, see you and the rest of humanity in the Kingdom. Sincerely, Thomas Paul Moses Baum.

  • Stars and Stripes forever

    We already have a new Jesus. It’s Al Gore and the religion of Environmentalism. Oh Darn…. that won’t help, they are more bent on destroying other humans than the christians!back to the drawing board.

  • Stars and Stripes Forever

    We already have a new Jesus. It’s Al Gore and the religion of Environmentalism. Oh Darn…. that won’t help, they are more bent on destroying other humans than the Christians!back to the drawing board.

  • Rev Jim

    Last year as I read the through the annual passage concerning “The Transfiguration,” I was suddenly struck by the notion that this was nothing supernatural at all. For a brief moment, there on the mountain top, Jesus somehow empowers Peter, James, and John to a peak experience; to see a reality that he perceived all or most of the time though his thoroughly human eyes. Given time and a new perspective, he said they might see likewise. “Not all will die before they see the kingdom of heaven.” Similarly, the so-called miracle stories are not miraculous at all, but evidences of a more subtle plane of potential awareness. The Jesus of John’s gospel goes to some length to say that words he speaks are not his words and that the works that he does are not for his own glorification. The stated goal is that we might have abundant life, ie expanded consciousness, and that we might accomplish even greater works in that awareness. “As the Father is in me, so shall I be in you.” Jesus means to be the catalyst for the next level of evolution, the evolution of consciousness. But, like Peter on the mountain top, Christianity has consistently failed to rise to the invitation, instead building empty booths, idolizing Jesus, and going nowhere.

  • david green

    The deduction based on a forthright reading of the NT as a credible history of Jesus provides one of three alternatives as C. S. Lewis pointed out: Jesus was either a lunatic, a liar or the Lord, i.e. God incarnate. Whatever is less or more than that deduction stands on ground that would purport to make a claim to be equally authoritative as surely one of the most well-attested documents in ancient history: the NT, with its over 7000 manuscripts in part or whole.If we accept as historically viable the statements of Jesus as to who he is, then distinct from all other ‘sons of god’ (a phrase comparable to being made in the image of God, Gen.1:26-27), he is not ‘a’ son of God but the unique Son of God, or rather he is God the Son, the second person of that Trinity of persons who are the one true and living God. In this case, his life and death as the God-man fulfilled all that was prefigured and promised in the OT of a Messiah, an anointed Savior for all who repent of their sins and put their trust in him alone and thereby have credited to their account a righteousness that God will accept. In chapter 5 of the same Gospel of John Jesus claimed that all authority to judge the human race was committed to him by the Father. Lunatic, liar or Lord? And how is it consistent or comforting to accept John 10:34 as Mr Chopra understands it but thereby potentially overthrow so many other NT statements Jesus and his apostles made about himself and his mission? Mr. Chopra offers yet one more fallible human opinion to the thousands that cannot save and leave us without hope. No, we do not need a third or fourth or even second Jesus: only the one we meet in the NT. Only he can save us.

  • JOVENZ NEEDS PSYCH MEDS

    JOVENZ, why post under ANONYMOUS? Its obvious its you. You need real help, my friend. Honestly, TAKE YOUR MEDS. At least there was no racism in your comments today. Big step for you, I guess. Btw, what’s with all of the symbols?

  • jillian

    Hal-The Jesus that you admire who turned the tables on the hypocrites is the same Jesus who bled and died for the sin of the world: mine and yours.If Jesus approves of a “no sin” world view. He would not have come to redeem us from the consequences of our sin.Just read Phillipians 2:6-11Who, although being essentially one with God and in the form of God [possessing the fullness of the attributes which make God God], did not think this equality with God was a thing to be eagerly grasped or retained,But stripped Himself [of all privileges and rightful dignity], so as to assume the guise of a servant, in that He became like men and was born a human being.And after He had appeared in human form, He abased and humbled Himself [still further] and carried His obedience to the extreme of death, even the death of the cross!Therefore [because He stooped so low] God has highly exalted Him and has freely bestowed on Him the name that is above every name,That in (at) the name of Jesus every knee should (must) bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,And every tongue [frankly and openly] confess and acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

  • Sully

    Angela wrote: “James Dobson is one of the godly men on this planet who lives by the word of God and speaks the truth, in love. We are all taught to love thy neighbor as yourself, bless those who curse us and most of all forgive as our heavenly father has forgiven us.”Christ also taught to give to Ceasar what is Ceasar’s and to God what is God’s, yet Dobson is actively endorsing political candidates and actively lobbying to change laws to be in line with his religious ethics. He has endorsed Huckabee who considers the consitution a “living and breathing document” ripe for change to adhere to christian doctrine. I cannot think of anything more ungodly or unAmerican.You talk about “speaking the truth, in love”, but creationists lie about scientific finds to make biblical genesis seem correct. You say you are taught to “love thy neighbor as yourself” while Dobson supports a presidents who talks of preemptive war and being “with us or against us”. You speak about “blessing those who curse us” yet Dobson is telling gays and lesbians what awful people they are, cursing them left and right. You talk of “forgiving as our heavenly father has forgiven us” while Dobson supports those who suport the death penalty, which has been proven to kill innocent people, supports those who attack nations that did us no harm, and supports those who threaten nations that have not shown us any intention to harm us (Iran). So before you talk of Dobson and love, try reading what Dobson has written and ask yourself, “would Christ have written this”? Then maybe you will see that evil can cloak itself in religion just as evil can wrap itself in a flag. The trick is to see through to the person, and Dobson has shown enough of himself to understand he is as far from Jesus and his teachings in my humble opinion.

  • Kool

    Angela:

  • Gaby

    Good Lord, I got came to the holy roller convention…!!!!!After reading the majority of the entries, I sit here slack-jawed wondering why so many people can be so brainwashed???Simply incredible!!!

  • Lawrence Bryant

    Hello,There is nothing wrong with the teachings of Jesus as they stand. There is, however, everything wrong with the way that certain people use those teachings for their own personal and political gain and expediency. Such things have occurred in Christianity as well as virtually all the other religions that have existed throughout human history. The problem is not that we need ‘a new Jesus’ who can raise us to “a higher level of consciousness.” The problem remains what it has always been, namely, our unwillingness to follow HIM into that “higher consciousness.”

  • Khalid Mahmood

    Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam believes Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian to be the Jesus for present times. His teachings have changed the lives of millions of Ahmadi Muslims, who are living peacfully all over the world. Among Ahmadi were Professor Doctor Abdul Salam and Sir Choudhry

  • Anonymous

    I basically agree with Chopra if one can discern that what he speaks of is another metaphor intended to point us toward an internal experience of more universal realities.It’s evident opinions vary. And all assumptions can and should be questioned.From CS Lewis’ argument which of course starts with an assumption not to be questioned (a mere man would be a lunatic/fool, end of discussion….)…..to those who assume all religion is nonsense, etc.Reason, and perhaps something that transcends reason, should be our ultimate guides on these matters I would think.My assumption is there is no God apart from our individual consciousness. There is no proof of course, only experience, and that only has meaning to the individual who has experienced the absolute rightness of the universe as it is.In my view religions become corrupt with time and devolves unfortunately into forms of organized ignorance passed down from generation to generation.Millions of prayers go out every year to stop war, crime, poverty, sickness and injustice of all forms. Yet nothing changes. I infer the method must be basically faulty.Perhaps it is each of us that must through individual effort refine our character and behavior a little each day so we better fit ourselves for an experience of “the savior”, a quality of consciousness available to us all, if we can be silent enough to let it awaken within.

  • gary

    your making up stuff.read the bible . Jesus said who he was. he said he was the Son of god. you say the secound Jesus was made up by religeon. he was either the son of God or he was nuts. there are only His sayings in the bible to go by and He doesn’t mince words about sin or the afterlife. you can accept what he said in scripture or you don’t have to. He told his followers if the Gospel was rejected where they went, to kick the dust from their feet and move on. He said he came to fulfill the law,not to do away with it. He told His followers to follow the mosaic law. he was a jew and so were his disciples. if we followed the jesus you are trying to put forth we would all die in our sins,the thing you are trying to sweep under the rug. whether you like it or not ,love is why He came and sin why He died on the cross and rose from the dead. He said He came to divide us,not so we could live out our days in some namby-pamby liberal oasis and then die and go away. you confuse people . people need to read what He said,not what you say,and make up their minds. we are called to account. its simple.

  • JesusH

    Hey already! I don’t need any new editions around, but you know I could use a few associate christs now and then. I swear, these humans always begging for this and that, like I care already!

  • gkam

    We will never be free until we grow out of our need for religion.

  • steve delin

    Hi Deepak,You and I met many years ago in Boston when I took my mother-in-law to see you for a painful inflamation of the muscle disease.She ended up going to your clinic in the suburbs receiving ayrvedic treatments that were helpful.Jesus had achieved God- contiousness or enlightenment and chose to die on the cross and to return to the earth plane to show the world that we do not really die.Over time this story was either ignored or changed purposely to scare folks into believing that we only live once. They also added that we had to llive exactly by the human rules that were invented or we would forever exist in a horrible place they called hell.The good news is that we will all attain God awareness in time, and that we are not judged by the great creator of all that is in the universe.Thanks for all of your work and healing efforts.Peace be with you.Stephen

  • slyboyd1

    I beg to differ with your analysis. By the way, Jesus never said that the Kingdom of Heaven is within – that’s your Catholic teaching speaking. Further, there is no historical mention of anyone claiming to be the “Messiah” before Jesus made that claim. Plenty of false prophets, but that is not the same thing. I can accept both the historical Jesus and a theological Jesus. Without the historical, the theological makes no sense because Jesus declared that He would physically return to a physical earth and then institute a physical Kingdom of Heaven. The reason there is a “thicket” of theological interpretations of Christ is because of human understanding or misunderstanding of His words. You yourself quote Jesus’ to qualify your understanding of what he meant. I differ as to what he meant when He said “It is not written in your law”. Jesus was not exhorting His people to a “higher consciousness” or some other allegorical interpretation. He was exhorting His people to live literally according to God’s law. Without a literal, historical, gramatical interpretation of the Scriptures, one can apply any concept or interpretation he wishes, as you have done. We have no need of a “third Jesus” – the first one will do, as He always has.

  • ahmed from bahrain

    Even if Jesus came back physically, the first ones to shoot him down would be the Christian zealots. Many have already come claiming they are Christ. They all have been ridiculed. So, pray tell me how would you identify the real Jesus if you are expecting him to appear in a physical form?What is your litmus test?God made each living person, then those created legal entities with no physical bodies, like corporations, governments, etc. They even call them corporate bodies.A real person tries not to harm another and when they see an ugly sight of flesh and blood they are naturally repulsed. Most of us have compassion and some sort of morality, at the least towards our own kith and kin.Yet governments and body corps’ (with no physical corps!) get away with murder by taking your tax money and spending in ‘your’ interest. No morality. No compassion. Pure politic games.Pray tell me what is your national interest in far away places you can not even pinpoint on a map, let alone pronounce the names!!When you can answer above we can progress. Most comments are distracted and do not offer intelligent view to what Mr. Chopra is putting forward.I will only enter into intelligent dialohue. So, ignore masses of cut and paste jobs. I have no time to read crap. Cheers

  • steve delin

    Hi Deepak,You and I met many years ago in Boston when I took my mother-in-law to see you for a painful inflamation of the muscle disease.She ended up going to your clinic in the suburbs receiving ayrvedic treatments that were helpful.Jesus had achieved God- contiousness or enlightenment and chose to die on the cross and to return to the earth plane to show the world that we do not really die.Over time this story was either ignored or changed purposely to scare folks into believing that we only live once. They also added that we had to live exactly by the human rules that were invented or we would forever exist in a horrible place they called hell.The good news is that we will all attain God awareness in time, and that we are not judged by the great creator of all that is in the universe.Thanks for all of your work and healing efforts.Peace be with you.Stephen

  • Godfrey Pereira

    AS usual, Deepak Chopra, like the recently dead Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, presents his case with a background of clever words and and convoluted examples. This design is then put forth and the reader is given the impression that the discourse is a “Wise” dissection of religion. Clever, sounds great and intellectual.

  • Godfrey Pereira

    AS usual, Deepak Chopra, like the recently dead Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, presents his case with a background of clever words and and convoluted examples. This design is then put forth and the reader is given the impression that the discourse is a “Wise” dissection of religion. Clever, sounds great and intellectual.

  • Mark

    Mr Chopra sets HIMSELF to be God when he decides to pick and choose what Jesus really said.He claims WITH NO EVIDENCE that many of the sayings of Jesus in the Bible are not the statements of Jesus.Anyone can take a look at the Bible, at Colossians 1:15-16″He is the image of the invisible God, the first-born of all creation;for in him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or authorities — all things were created through him and for him.”This is a hymn that St. Paul quotes, an early Christian hymn. St. Paul is writing circa 50 AD, so this hymn comes from around 40 AD or thereabouts, in other words barely a decade after the resurrection of Jesus. So much for this myth that the divinity of Jesus was a later addition.The Bible as written produced the Age of Faith that civilized the pagan Roman, Germanic and Slavic worlds. That same faith built cathedrals, produced saints whose lives still inspire us today.Mr. Chopra is cheap con man, who’s original claim to fame was to ride along on the “magic carpet” of that well known fraud and cult leader, the so-called Maharishi Mahesh Yoga.We don’t need a new Jesus; the one who was the same in the beginning, is now and ever shall has served millions of souls well.The world is in a sorry state when the like of a con man like Deepak Chopra are given serious credit.

  • Godfrey Pereira

    AS usual, Deepak Chopra, like the recently dead Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, presents his case with a background of clever words and and convoluted examples. This design is then put forth and the reader is given the impression that the discourse is a “Wise” dissection of religion. Clever, sounds great and intellectual.

  • Ron Pearson

    The real, historical Jesus lived, was crucified, died, was buried and rose again to eternal life and now sits at the right hand of God the Father Almighty. His purpose was not to be a moral teacher but to save His people from their sins by His sacrificial death. He is God the Creator.

  • Anonymous

    Mr. Chopra – thanks for bringing the Jesus freaks out of the woodwork. We needed that…….

  • faithfulservant3

    Deepak:We don’t need a new Jesus, we have one, the real one, the one who inhabits the gospels. Indeed, He left such a big footprint approximately one-third of the world has followed Him.Believing in Jesus is faith not science. Only Christians of extremely weak faith seek scientific proof. Essentially your initial premise is false. The modern differences between the “sects” in Christianity is minimal, the kind only theologians, not practicing believers really care about.Jesus’ teachings may be summed up in a word: love. It is not impossible to follow Jesus’ teachings.In scripture, we are given all the tools that we need to effectuate them: faith, sacrifice, intense prayer, study of His word and praise and worship. It is the failure of believers to follow these simple rules that has caused the problem. In addition,we are taught that no one besides Him is perfect, and that we are all sinners. Man also continually falls short of the humility, submission and asking for forgiveness aspects of faith. But, the power of the Holy Spirit has, can and will change this world for the better.The spiritual transformation that you speak of here on earth is by no means overlooked amongst believers. I agree that Psalm 82:6 and Jesus’ reference to it are often overlooked. However, our future spiritual destiny is CLEAR to those who bother to read all of scripture, or attend a church where study of the word is vallued. Jesus tells us that we will be “like angels;” and the book of Hebrews instructs us that heaven is comprised of “an innumerable company of angels…the spirits of just men made perfect” (Mark 12: 25, Luke 20:36; Hebrews 12:22-23).Anyone who bothers to deepen their walk with the Lord by engaging in bible study is well aware that moral growth is the point of our faith, and perfection in heaven with God the culmination. The “god” from Psalms 82 is equivalent to “angel” which in the hereafter is essentially equivalent to man and woman. I appreciate the fact that God has revealed Himself in part to all men, throughout time, in various ways. Many other belief systems are not unlike the Law of Moses that was man’s tutor to get the world to Jesus. I also appreciate that your spiritual quest and embrace of other philosophies besides the teachings of Jesus is both valid and rewarding.However, I am sad that you didn’t stay on the path that you began in Catholic school. The simple rules that I described above, the formula, guarantees spiritual blessings on earth and in heaven.Influential you are, but how powerful you would be had you not strayed from that path. An even greater power for good.

  • faithfulservant3

    Deepak:We don’t need a new Jesus, we have one, the real one, the one who inhabits the gospels. Indeed, He left such a big footprint approximately one-third of the world has followed Him.Believing in Jesus is faith not science. Only Christians of extremely weak faith seek scientific proof. Essentially your initial premise is false. The modern differences between the “sects” in Christianity is minimal, the kind only theologians, not practicing believers really care about.Jesus’ teachings may be summed up in a word: love. It is not impossible to follow Jesus’ teachings.In scripture, we are given all the tools that we need to effectuate them: faith, sacrifice, intense prayer, study of His word and praise and worship. It is the failure of believers to follow these simple rules that has caused the problem. In addition,we are taught that no one besides Him is perfect, and that we are all sinners. Man also continually falls short of the humility, submission and asking for forgiveness aspects of faith. But, the power of the Holy Spirit has, can and will change this world for the better.The spiritual transformation that you speak of here on earth is by no means overlooked amongst believers. I agree that Psalm 82:6 and Jesus’ reference to it are often overlooked. However, our future spiritual destiny is CLEAR to those who bother to read all of scripture, or attend a church where study of the word is vallued. Jesus tells us that we will be “like angels;” and the book of Hebrews instructs us that heaven is comprised of “an innumerable company of angels…the spirits of just men made perfect” (Mark 12: 25, Luke 20:36; Hebrews 12:22-23).Anyone who bothers to deepen their walk with the Lord by engaging in bible study is well aware that moral growth is the point of our faith, and perfection in heaven with God the culmination. The “god” from Psalms 82 is equivalent to “angel” which in the hereafter is essentially equivalent to man and woman. I appreciate the fact that God has revealed Himself in part to all men, throughout time, in various ways. Many other belief systems are not unlike the Law of Moses that was man’s tutor to get the world to Jesus. I also appreciate that your spiritual quest and embrace of other philosophies besides the teachings of Jesus is both valid and rewarding.However, I am sad that you didn’t stay on the path that you began in Catholic school. The simple rules that I described above, the formula, guarantees spiritual blessings on earth and in heaven.Influential you are, but how powerful you would be had you not strayed from that path. An even greater power for good.

  • acvg

    Mr. Chopra:I enjoyed your article as I have also been thinking lately that the world needs another Jesus. I am not hopeful, however, as I assume that we would just lock up or institutionalize him or her and marginalize his/her followers as cultist or fringe. I just can’t imagine someone coming along in this day and age who could have the enduring, world-wide impact that Jesus and his followers did.I prefer to think of the historical Jesus as a revolutionary (and perhaps first on earth) Master of God-Consciousness. And I believe there are many Masters of God-Consciousness among us — and within each of us. We simply need to be silent, listen, think, then act. Currently, I think Donald Neale Walsh’s Conversations with God series show him to be a modern Master among us.

  • sboyd18

    So you believe that since prayers to cease wars haven’t been answered this makes a belief in a war-free future null and void? Remember, Jesus said there would be wars and rumors of wars til the time He returns. It is because of a destructive worldwide war that He does return. He also said the heavenly bodies in this physical universe would go awry when He physically returns. He said in effect there would be a massive lightshow to signal the world seconds before He returns. This reads like a physical, bodily event to me. And why would He return? To give this world the type of peace and government it has never experienced. I don’t place my hope in a far better future in the fact that man will achieve some allegorical Kingdom of Heaven within himself. No, the Bible’s bold words firmly assert that it will take a physical renewal just as the universe is a physical place. Man’s history has shown that he is incapable of governing in this manner. And God has His own timeline and program for inaugurating a physical Kingdom here on this planet, not in the corrupted and corrupting souls of some political machine because man has seen the light and can do it on his own because “the Kingdom of God lives within him”. Maranatha!

  • RedRose1

    The Devil is alive and well, going to and fro throughout the earth, seeking whom he may devour. It seems he is doing a booming business. Mr Chopra, the title of your article is an invitation to instill doubt. I found nothing to do with faith in it. It sounds more humanist than anything. Let’s just make Jesus whatever we like to fit the way we live. In fact, this global faith section needs to be removed because it brings out all the people who have turned against God and have embraced the things of the world. There are true Christians and there are those who call themselves Christian, but in reality have no knowledge of Jesus Christ, our Lord. Since we can’t judge a person’s heart, we accept what they say on faith, just as we accept Jesus on faith.

  • RedRose1

    The Devil is alive and well, going to and fro throughout the earth, seeking whom he may devour. It seems he is doing a booming business. Mr Chopra, the title of your article is an invitation to instill doubt. I found nothing to do with faith in it. It sounds more humanist than anything. Let’s just make Jesus whatever we like to fit the way we live. In fact, this global faith section needs to be removed because it brings out all the people who have turned against God and have embraced the things of the world. There are true Christians and there are those who call themselves Christian, but in reality have no knowledge of Jesus Christ, our Lord. Since we can’t judge a person’s heart, we accept what they say on faith, just as we accept Jesus on faith.

  • Paganplace

    OK, this is only funny to a few people out there, but some Net glitch had me seeing an ad with bouncing Bingo balls proclaiming some financial services as ‘Ing Direct’ under the headline, ‘Why we need a new Jesus.’ Hail. :)

  • faithfulservant3

    SLYBOYD1:Jesus said; “For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you” (Luke 17:21).

  • Joe

    It’s a shame that so many people are so threatened by this article specifically and by other spiritual ideas generally. The degree of vitriol and vehemence with which people recoil from ideas different from their own is a classic sign of being “defensive,” which in most other areas of life is considered to be a negative trait and a sign of some underlying discomfort with your own “argument.” I may not agree with everything Mr. Chopra has to say, or may not agree that he has all the answers, but I would rather spend my time looking for what truth there is in his words than screaming at the top of my lungs what he is wrong about or what kind of person he is. Communion with God and insulting other people are not compatible in my opinion…

  • Anonymous

    Gaby – I’m with you. Otherwise intelligent reasoning people, until THIS subject comes up. Thou art God! I wish I could send you all a copy of the Tao.Anyway….

  • Bill

    Ce parlance eternel de ces gens croyable m’effraye.

  • hsing lee

    You don’t need a “new” Jesus… you just need to eliminate the ridiculous, fabricated Roman version of Jesus which is in the Christian bibles and start teaching about the Jesus found in the gospels banned by the Church… THAT Jesus is very close to Mr. Chopra’s “new” Jesus, and there’s nothing new about him.

  • Gaby

    Anonymous,Right you are. It never ceases to amaze me!And then I read things like this: “The real, historical Jesus lived, was crucified, died, was buried and rose again to eternal life and now sits at the right hand of God the Father Almighty. His purpose was not to be a moral teacher but to save His people from their sins by His sacrificial death. He is God the Creator.”First he sits at the right of of God the Father, then he is the father. Where exactly is that throne God is sitting on in physical form so one can sit at this right hand. And how exactly sits oneself by ones right hand???And people believe that?????

  • Anonymous

    hey bill- boo!

  • Anonymous

    hey gaby,you amaze me too. like so many other xtian haters that inhabit the wapo boards, you fail to realize you are in an american minority group.

  • Naval Gazer (NOT)

    From “We Believe there is meaning and purpose in life and all knowledge comes from within.”If indeed “all knowledge comes from within”, then there is nothing to be gained by reading his books and it is rather pointless for him to publish them.

  • Jason

    Gaby,

  • Gary E. Masters

    I can not agree.

  • Anonymous

    With all due respect we don’t need a new Jesus. The old one will do just fine. In fact the book of Hebrews says he is the same yesterday, today and forever. He did not have a God consciousness: He was God in human flesh. He made an astonishing claim which as C.S. Lewis so eloquently stated made Him either “Lord, Lunatic, or Liar” and we must either accept that claim by falling at His feet in worship or reject Him and perish.

  • Noor Muhammad

    Jesus in the Holy Quran and the sunnah is what you need to be introduced for. But you need some one of good understanding to this knowledge.

  • Jess

    Neil Douglas-Klotz in his “Prayers for the Cosmos” has retranslated key passages from the original Aramaic of Jesus’ words into our modern vernacular. Douglas-Klotz’ is an approach to this conundrum that deserves greater attention…

  • Frank

    You’re affiliated to Ann Coulter, I guess you know about the perversions of war and bigotry, firsthand. You should be ashamed, and your family.

  • Kelly

    The Christian life is about surrender, not about becoming God-like. You cannot pick and choose what to believe from the Bible if you’re a Christian, b/c the Bible states that its words are inspired by God himself. It also says that the only way to God is through Jesus, not by accessing your own “God consciousness.” Humans will never reach that level, which is why God sent Jesus to earth t save his people. Its great that this writer asks us to follow Jesus’ example, but it’s not enough to secure an eternity in heaven or a relationship with God.

  • Pops

    No, we don’t need a new Jesus. We don’t need the old one either. What we need are for people to get their head out of their religions myths and fairy tales an start living with some rationality. There is no god and the sooner people realize that the sooner humanity can get it’s head out of it’s proverbial behind.

  • Brian

    See all of these responses? All of the crap? All of the disagreement? The weird, creepy responses that look like hieroglyphics? yeah…that’s why I’m atheist.

  • test

    testing

  • testing

    pervert (testing if the word passes wapo censorship)

  • David O

    What a perverse article. Mixing the Eastern religious ideas, and even using Scripture for it!There was no 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Jesus. How can you hijack true Christianity to teach this mumbo jumbo pie-in-the-sky Jesus? Jesus is who he said he was/is in the Bible. Just read it in a literal way. And, there’s no conclusion left to make. You can’t take what you want from it. That’s where myths come from. Just picking and choosing what your wishful mind wants to pick out of the Bible.

  • Dwight

    Please don’t talk about Christ and I will not talk about hinduism or whatever, you have no clue about Christ and that we don’t need to find another. I’m sorry your faith makes you put down the faith of others yet understand this, Christians are the only hope against radical Islamic forces that will slaughter your kind as sheep, so trend lightly lest we consider this a task not worthy of our attention.

  • Spiritual Mongrel

    Let’s assume God exists, I believe he does. Let’s put a little perspective on what we all think we now about God. The sum total of all printed materials is around 200 petabytes of information That’s a 1 with 15 zeros. The total printed material on all religious writing combined is in the neighborhood of 17 megabyte or 17,000,000. That is 11.7 billion times more information on something other than God.With all this knowledge we do not fully comprehend our physical reality. Yet with this infinitesimal knowledge we have cobbled together on this infinite being is the final and absolute answer?We do ourselves a great disservice if our beliefs are stagnate.

  • Spiderman2

    testing ( i don’t understand why wapo is blocking my posts)

  • Spiderman2

    Susan Jacoby (testing if the name passes Wapo censorship) I don’t understand why wapo blocks my posts that is why I’m testing which words or names are offensive to them.

  • ENC

    Wow. I am deeply troubled by this article. There is just ONE Jesus- He was the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow! I suggest that you ask God to open your eyes when you read His word….instead of trying to make up your own interpretations- NOT based on the Bible! I pray God opens your eyes.

  • Spiderman2

    A quote from Martin Luther: A quote from Martin Luther:(testing) I can’t post the whole reply

  • Gary

    This comes off as some kind of Jesus-of-the-Month Club, its generalizations and lack of historicity making it both error-filled and useless. The author warps Jesus into tiny caricatures, stickmen, and then announces an insight even narrower and sillier than what he condemned. I can’t wait for the fourth Jesus. (PS And what makes this age “liberated”!)

  • Oregon

    DAVID O: I completely agree!

  • Sandman

    For even the Son of Man came not to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many. Mark 10:45

  • J

    If Jesus reappeared today, with the same message, the religious zealots of the world would be the first to make sure he didn’t make it to 35.

  • Spiderman2

    A quote from Martin Luther:”By God’s grace, I know Satan very well. If Satan can turn God’s Word upside down and pervert the Scriptures, what will he do with my words — or the words of others? “The perversion still exists today as ignorant people, like Susan Jacoby, believes they are on the side of “Reason” or “Rationality”. If ever Luther said those phrase (reason is of the devil?), he was referring to the people who use “faulty reasons” to pervert the word of God. These are his exact words :”But since the devil’s bride, Reason, that pretty wh*re, comes in and thinks she’s wise, and what she says, what she thinks, is from the Holy Spirit, who can help us, then? “The way he described the word Reason was synonymous to “false prophet”. But, as usual, idiots just want to find fault where there is really none. But, equally usual, the idiots today believe the lies.(The above post was intended for Susan Jacoby’s article yesterday but it was blocked because of the word “wh*re” which I just qouted from Martin Luther. Finally I figured it out after many testings. Gee, that was tiring.)I’m posting it here instead coz it has also some degree of relevance. I’ve heard Mr. Chopra spoke at Larry King Live. He believes in so many things that are not biblical. The article here and what he says on TV seem don’t match. I mean, why is he talking about Christianity when he even don’t understand what true Christianity is? The guy confuses me. Maybe that is his method to have followers. Confuse them then lead them to another path. Make them pliable first and then mold them. It seems like Martin Luther’s words are even more applicable now than it was then.

  • Society of Christians for the Restoration of Old Testament Morality

    We don’t need a new Jesus. We already have the one and only Jesus, God incarnate. How can anyone doubt that, when it says so in the Bible? How can anyone doubt the Bible, when it is the Word of God?

  • j smith

    Maybe we need a new Jesus, but we definitely don’t need Deepak (which is short for “deep pocket”)

  • Josephine

    We don’t need a new Jesus, one needs to find the real one.”a hunger to relate to Jesus personally.” – This is what God wants too, a personal relationship with you.”What Jesus envisioned was a world ruled by God, which cannot occur unless human nature changes radically.” – God gave us freewill. If we choose to have a relationship with him and make him Lord of our life then our nature will change radically, although we are not perfect so we struggle as humans to live and imitate Christ.”In everyday life Jesus’s teachings are impossible to follow.” – Impossible yes but something to aspire to.”If we treated everyone else the way we wanted to be treated, there would be no wars, crime, or divorce.” – Isn’t this the point?”If we obeyed the injunction to resist not evil, all too probably the world’s evil-doers would run amok.” – There is such a thing as righteous anger i.e. Jesus in the temple with the moneylenders.”He wanted to raise his followers to the same level of God consciousness that he was in. Only then is Christian doctrine livable. If that sounds like blasphemy, consider John 10:34. The priests in the Temple wanted to stone Jesus for blasphemy when he claimed to be the Son of God, and he gave a startling reply: Jesus answered, ‘Is it not written in your law,” I said, you are gods”? He quotes Psalms 82 to argue that if scripture makes everyone a god, he cannot be blaspheming to make the same claim for himself.” – “In many other places Jesus calls his disciples “the light of the world,” and he promises that they will perform miracles greater than his.” – As disciples, we are called to imitate Christ. We are the light of the world as Christ was but is now ascended to heaven.

  • Spiderman2

    Chopra wrote : “That desire lingered over the years, until it occurred to me that Jesus can be taken as a savior without being the savior.”Wrong, Mr.Chopra. Jesus is The Savior. That’s what salvation is all about.Unless a person don’t realize that, he is lost just like what Mr. Chopra is — lost but at the same thinks he is “like God” . Speaking of Lucifer? This man is dangerous. Beware.

  • Spiderman2

    Chopra wrote : “That desire lingered over the years, until it occurred to me that Jesus can be taken as a savior without being the savior.”Wrong, Mr.Chopra. Jesus is The Savior. That’s what salvation is all about.Unless a person don’t realize that, he is lost just like what Mr. Chopra is — lost but at the same time thinks he is “like God” . Speaking of Lucifer? This man is dangerous. Beware.

  • Keith

    What Mr Chopra, and people like him, don’t understand is that true Christians have the evidence of the Holy Spirit living inside of them. Just as the Spirit descended upon believers in the Bible, today’s Christian receives the Holy Spirit when they truly turn to, and call upon, the name of Jesus. It is a phenomenon that I have personally experienced when I (by the grace of God) earnestly and diligently sought Jesus. The Spirit of the Lord lives in me, as friend, comforter, counsoler, and Lord! I think Mr. Chopra is part of a growing movement to try and dilute the truth that there is one and only one way to God, and the road is narrow and few there be that find it….The Jewish Saviour that was told of in the old testament has come –Jesus!

  • smac

    I’m convinced God is a woman, and frankly, she thinks we ALL can do a helluva lot better. And Deepak Chopra is far smarter than any so-called “preacher” I’ve ever seen who claims to know Jesus Christ personally. Jesus preached humility and meekness, not flashiness and fund-raising and intolerance.John Lennon, in fact, probably said it best: “Imagine no religion….”

  • Jean Cresson

    Is Mr Chopra unfamiliar with the current status of religious wars?….has he review the thousand killed in the name of religion as a whole?..another “Jesus” to bring peace? ..Yes …I see the peace any given religious figure has fostered…maybe Mr Chopra needs a new career… JC

  • Chris

    Mr. Chopra has clearly demonstrated that he doesn’t know the real Jesus…he is obviously still looking for Him.

  • Anonymous

    We already have a new Jesus. Barak Obama was conducting a campaign speech yesterday. He has a head cold, and excused himself to sneeze. When he sneezed, he got a tremendous round of applause and many loud cheers. Enough said.

  • KP

    No more Jesus’ PLEASE!! I can’t take any more of the ignorance that “true christians” spout as they hurl bible verses that have so many contradictions that my head spins. and i always love the question whether i am sure if i am going to heaven because i dont believe. i am sure i am not going to heaven, but neither are you, christian dimwits, because there is no heaven, or hell, or any thing else that your faith made up. Google “flying speghetti monster” and try to follow the logic of your b.s. good luck. but im sure your faith will keep you mindlessly ignorant. am i anti-christian? you bet i am – i grew up in SC (bible belt) and got to see first hand the evil – yes evil – that you spew. PS – have you noticed lately how many “men of the cloth” have been getting arrested for child sexual abuse or porn? not a coincidence…

  • Jonathan Switzer

    Deepak is a bit biased as he downplays Christ of Christianity for an eastern-religionized version. Of course Deepak would say it this way. There is no Christ of higher-consciousness. There is the Holy Spirit who comes to live inside those who confess Christ as Lord and who believe in their hearts that God raised Him from the dead. This Holy Spirit does indeed raise us to a higher place. However, he cannot come outside of repentance and belief.

  • mnjam

    How about it, Deepak? Will you be the new Jesus? You don’t seem to have anything else to do.

  • Kevin

    Just what we need, more anti-christian bigotry from some squishy Dr. Feelgood. First of all it’s safe to say that Christianity doesn’t exactly have the market cornered when it comes to religious fundamentalism. Second, it certainly appears that the followers of Muhammad have done a first rate job of rationalizing his teachings to justify their murderous hatred of the west. And lastly, do you really think that if we had a “new” Jesus that someone wouldn’t corrupt his teachings for their own purpose. We don’t need a new Jesus, or a new Muhammad. We need for the moderates who make up the vast majority of all religions, Christian, Muslim or whatever, to stand up against the fundamentalist nut jobs that are trying to co-opt their beliefs. When the majority stands up and shouts down the kooks maybe then we’ll have some peace.

  • Joseph Gibert

    I’m deeply saddened that Deepak Chopra has never met the true and living God. His past experiences left him wanting that true moment when you discover the love God gave to us through his Son. All other expressions of religion involve man trying to “reach” God. True christianity involved God reaching down to man through the gift of the life of his son Jesus. He only asks us to accept his gift. We don’t need a new Jesus, just accept the Only Jesus.

  • Right On

    My view on religion has been in line with the title of this essay for a couple years now. Do I believe in Jesus? Yes. Am I familiar with his teachings? Yes. Have I seen thousands of examples of “Christians” who use his name to poison this country? Yes I have. From “Christians” who say “God Hates Fags” outside of a dead soldier’s funeral to televangelists soliciting money (often pinpointing poor neighborhoods) to mega churches with preachers in Armani requiring a 10% tithe upon entrance to a religion that preaches tolerance becoming the symbol of intolerance I have become disgusted with “religion”. Note I don’t say Jesus or God. They are not the problem. The problem is the way man has twisted the Bible to serve man. For this reason alone, it is time to put religion back into the domestic sphere and out of politics. Is a good man not a good man if he doesn’t sit in a “Bible Church” on Sunday? If I don’t cheat, steal, kill, disrespect my wife or neighbor but choose to study the Bible on my own and interpret it how I choose am I a bad man? Can anyone honestly say I will not be saved by Jesus simply because I choose not to attend the “correct” place of worship? Where does it say “Thou shalt go to the large warehouse-like building with stadium seating, pay a “tithe” to attend and listen to a preacher you watch on a big screen”? I agree with some of the other comments here. Jesus would be disgusted with much of the organized religion today.

  • jt

    Why is it that non-believers have no problem smearing and saying hateful things about Christians, all the while claiming the Christians are the awful, nasty ones???Jesus said, “By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.” (John 13:35). Read back through all these posts and decide who you think is the kinder, gentler group …One more thing … non-believers love to point out awful things in the past that Christians have been a part of. Enough already! We admit and confess that Christians are guilty of sin and wrongdoing – that’s precisely why we need Jesus’ love and forgiveness!!!What those who hate Christians refuse to acknowledge, however, is that lots of evil in this world is done by NON-Christians, too. That’s why the Bible says, “ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:23). The good news is that the passage goes on: “All … are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.” (Romans 3:24)

  • Matthew

    Interesting bit of theosophy…as I receive the

  • Spiderman2

    David C. wrote : “And we have a difficult, complicated future to navigate in our journey to 3000.”That’s not what the Bible says. Wrong prophecy.

  • Spiderman2

    The reason why the U.S is the greatest country is because it is the country that fit to the description of Apostle Paul which says that the children of faith and NOT the children of works (this includes the four major religions [ Islam, Budhism, Hinduism, Judaism ] and some major false christian religions like catholicism) will inherit and rule the earth. A big portion of the people in the U.S and even the first settlers in Plymouth, Massachusetts believe that scripture. They inherit the prophecy by believing it. This country will ultimately rule the earth coz that is the prophecy. The U.S. did not start WW2 but that was the beginning of the fulfillment of that prophecy and WW3 would establish it fully even though the U.S. won’t start it. That is the prophecy and those who would challenge it (there would be many) may temporarily win but in the final showdown, the prophecy would still prevail. A lot of people will be “vaporized”. America has been protected by God from two World Wars but not this time because of the increasing liberalism and secularism among its people.Salvation is personal and being a member of a religion would not save a person. But Eph. 2:8-10 and Jn 3:16 sums it all and those who live these verses in their hearts are the holders of true religion. The history of this world is pretty much laid out already. Parts of America is liberal and secular and that will be destroyed by its enemies. But the bigger story is, America’s enemies will be wiped off the surface of the earth. America is not invincible and it could be defeated. But the irony of it is that it’s a lot more stronger the second time around. Remember the famous phrase “I shall return”? In WW2, it did returned and pulverized it’s enemy like powder. The same will happen in WW3. The point is, it’s not a good thing that America gets defeated coz the next episode will be the annihilation of its enemies. ****A phoenix is a mythical bird with beautiful gold and red plumage. At the end of its life-cycle the phoenix builds itself a nest of cinamon twigs that it then ignites; both nest and bird burn fiercely and are reduced to ashes, from which a new, young phoenix arises. The bird was also said to regenerate when hurt or wounded by a foe, thus being almost immortal and invincible — a symbol of fire and divinity. “Then I said, I shall die in my nest, and I shall multiply my days as the sand”, Job 29:18. Seldom that a prophecy and mythology intertwine but the proof of the pudding is always in the eating. Let the unbelievers test the pudding. Let them taste the truthfulness of the prophecy. “Death to America” is a staple in Arab mouths. The mythology states that “the bird burn fiercely and are reduced to ashes”. The prophecy will happen and parts of America will burn. God will allow it because of America’s growing secularism and liberalism. But those responsible are equally hypocrites. They too will all burn and Im not sure if they will be able to recover unlike the phoenix which is described as almost “immortal and invincible”. People should be careful in picking America as their enemy coz as the prophecy foretells, that may spell the end of their civilization or their history. Believe it.America does not need another Jesus. It is great today because, from the beginning, the first settlers had already found Him and because of the faith of those people and of true Christians today, it shall someday rule the earth as God has promised. The promise will be laid upon it’s feet whether America would like it or not. It’s God’s Gift. It’s the Lord’s doing.

  • Hira Biswas

    In assence, I believe what Depak Chopra stated. However, I will state it differently. What we need is: Bring back the original Jesus; his message of love, compassion, forgiveness, recognition of light within in each of us(inner consciousness), and above all, his challenge to the world to LOVE YOUR ENEMY. This challenge, if accepted seriously, will change the face of our tortured world. Leo Tolstoy spent later half of his life to bring forward the lost teachings of Jesus to this ever miserable and bleeding world; he was excommunicated by the Orthodox Church, and the then Russian government harrassed him til his last day. Kallil Gibran made similar attempts causing holy hooligans burning Gibran’s books in the public square of Lebanon. But the message of Jesus is not going to go away; his message has immunized our humanity, and his healing message will heal us forever. I am waiting, the whole humanity is waiting; we do not need salvation or heaven of afterlife because the kingdom of heaven is within each of us in this life.

  • Terra Gazelle

    gaby,The folks in here are in a loop, they can only see things one way. I feel sorry for them,closed minds can never open or be enlightened.And since I am Pagan and not a believer of the biblical Jesus…they think I am doomed anyway. From them all I can say is…Thank Whoever!terra

  • Hira Biswas

    In assence, I believe what Depak Chopra stated. However, I will state it differently. What we need is: Bring back the original Jesus; his message of love, compassion, forgiveness, recognition of light within in each of us(inner consciousness), and above all, his challenge to the world to LOVE YOUR ENEMY. This challenge, if accepted seriously, will change the face of our tortured world. Leo Tolstoy spent later half of his life to bring forward the lost teachings of Jesus to this ever miserable and bleeding world; in response, he was excommunicated by the Orthodox Church, and the then Russian government harrassed him till his last day. Kallil Gibran made similar attempts causing holy hooligans burning Gibran’s books in the public square of Lebanon. The original message of Jesus is not going to go away; his message has immunized our humanity, and his healing message will heal us forever. I am waiting, the whole humanity is waiting; we do not need salvation or heaven of afterlife because the kingdom of heaven is within each of us in this life.

  • David C.

    GOOD NEWS: A (strong?) case can be made that I am the messiah…Those who run things already know of me and my story. They’ve known since before 2000. But why would they share this with the general public – they don’t share much else, do they? You can get a sense of my thinking here at my Post (below). I’ve had many additional important messages that I used to write, then regularly FedEx to all the power-players in media and government since 1990. For example I predicted 9/11; Who, where, why and that it may kick-off WWIII. It was published in an Aspen CO. newspaper six weeks before it happened.I arguably have the most powerful, positive & prophetic message in the world today; We face many problems and challenges [Duh, right?] And we have a difficult, complicated future to navigate in our journey to 3000…I (the new messiah?) prefer not to use the term Jesus or Christ. Although I have blue eyes and brown hair and was raised a Christian I am beyond the Bible. In fact oddly, I like the way Islam prays (5 times a day?) and shuns alcohol. They cover their women, which as a westerner I translate into co-ed schools with segregated (boy/girl) classes. I like techno-pop muisic but also Muslim call-to-prayer chants. I like some Christian music too, but not all. Alot of the people I admire most were raised Christian, but it’s 2000+ and I think it may be best to move on. I don’t know much of anything about Mohammed or the Koran and I do not want to learn. I do not like Asian or Islamic script either. I like the english language, although yes my punctuation & grammer are sometimes crude.There is much work ahead…Love to all, David C.

  • David C.

    SPIDERMAN2: You’re right, More accurately I have written “Some will do better than ever, while others will struggle and/or die off.” It’s in my WaPo web libary.

  • Delia Seinclair

    Thats very true, Jesus was so right…and it is writen in the Scripture Law’s…that we are all God’s children. Jesus was so right in his reply. ” I AM THE SON OF GOD ” For an atheist person…I had to find all of these on my own…by myself so to speak…the hard way. “struggle”.Having found answer for both of these I AM THE SON OF GOD and the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS WHITIN…state of mind, state of consciensce…or as a friend of mine calls it: THE VOICE OF THE UNIVERSAL LOVE…I am thankful, full of gratitude for the grace…(of having been chosen?) to have heard it.And,it stays, it is a constancy of life a permament reminder…that we are indeed all creatures of a Universe that is with a CONSCIOUS-Conscience, not without it. The Universe has/have CONSCIOUNESS. It is alerted. We are not alone. One must ‘conscienticize’ of this true-truth and life for everyone can become a blisseful-bless,not blast-blowing.

  • Delia Seinclair

    Thats very true, Jesus was so right…and it is writen in the Scripture Law’s…that we are all God’s children. Jesus was so right in his reply. ” I AM THE SON OF GOD ” For an atheist person…I had to find all of these on my own…by myself so to speak…the hard way. “struggle”.Having found answer for both of these I AM THE SON OF GOD and the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS WHITIN…state of mind, state of consciensce…or as a friend of mine calls it: THE VOICE OF THE UNIVERSAL LOVE…I am thankful, full of gratitude for the grace…(of having been chosen?) to have heard it.And,it stays, it is a constancy of life a permament reminder…that we are indeed all creatures of a Universe that is with a CONSCIOUS-Conscience, not without it. The Universe has/have CONSCIOUNESS. It is alerted. We are not alone. One must ‘conscienticize’ of this true-truth and life for everyone can become a blisseful-bless,not blast-blowing.

  • TF

    Whatever. Jesus was not an historical person. The epistles speak of a heavenly spirit never come to earth and bereft of miracles or teachings. The Gospels hark back two or three generations to describe an individual for whom no contemporary documentation exists.

  • Delia Seinclair

    Thats very true, Jesus was so right…and it is writen in the Scripture Law’s…that we are all God’s children. Jesus was so right in his reply. ” I AM THE SON OF GOD ” For an atheist person…I had to find all of these on my own…by myself so to speak…the hard way. “struggle”.Having found answer for both of these I AM THE SON OF GOD and the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS WHITIN…state of mind, state of consciensce…or as a friend of mine calls it: THE VOICE OF THE UNIVERSAL LOVE…I am thankful, full of gratitude for the grace…(of having been chosen?) to have heard it.And,it stays, it is a constancy of life a permament reminder…that we are indeed all creatures of a Universe that is with a CONSCIOUS-Conscience, not without it. The Universe has/have CONSCIOUNESS. It is alerted. We are not alone. One must ‘conscienticize’ of this true-truth and life for everyone can become a blisseful-bless,not blast-blowing.

  • Kacoo

    Historically, we know that Jesus of Nazereth lived about 33 years, preached for about 3 years in Palestine, and had no history between age 12 and age 30. At age 12, his parents were driven into panic because Jesus became lost and they could not find him. He had spent the entire day talking religion with the rabbis at the temple. As if that wasn’t enough, when they finally located him, he explained that they should have known he was at the temple to begin with. The child truly believed he was the son of God.The truth now known is that following this incident, Mary and Jospeh sent Jesus to the furthest reaches of the empire, quite literally. From age 12 to 30, Jesus lived in what is now England, which was then just a remote outpost of the Roman Empire.It was in England that Jesus began his ministry, and it was in England that Jesus founded his first true church. For this reason, when Henry the 8th was excommunicated by the pope in Rome, he and his royal subjects were not banished to hell for eternity. In fact, the church of England is Jesus’s first true church on earth.

  • Soja John Thaikattil, Sydney, Australia

    Dear Dr ChopraHow wonderful to have you on the forum! Thanks immensely for the great work you do. I’m one of your great admirers.Many intellectuals in the West who are against the Judeo-Christian and Islamic image of a transcendent creator God image often refer to your mention ‘fetish of Abrahamic faiths.’ It has distressed me.I’m a forty eight year old Indian woman from Kerala. My Hindu ancestors (Nambudiri Brahmins) converted to Christianity in 52 AD. Apostle Thomas who brought Christianity to Kerala must have made strong case for Jesus to be able to convert Nambudiri Brahmins. He did it with the real Jesus. Do we really need another Jesus, when the historical Jesus preached by his disciples is enough? Who needs another Jesus? Certainly Christians like me don’t!Soja John Thaikattil

  • Jai Khosla

    It is not a new Jesus we need but a new way of defining the God that is worth worshiping, that enlightened humans are ready and willing to worship.Does it make sense to worship a God that demands that He be the only be God that may be worshiped, demands prayers x number of times a day, lays prohibitions on foods and drinks and says women are inferior and even advises killing of other humans? Such a jealous and possessive God, essentially the God of Judaism, Christianity and Islam, is not worth worshiping. It is this semitic God that is responsible for the major massacres in human history, the holocaust on the Jews by Muhammad and the nazis ( of Christian origin) and for the massacre of 3 million Hindus in Bangladesh by Muslims. Jews, Christians and Muslims created the wrong kind of God, an evil God.Instead let us chose to worship only the God ( or gods and goddesses) whose only demand is that we be good to one another and help each. We cannot know the mind of God or what His intentions are. There is no point in speculating why babies are born with major deformities and illnesses when God only has to say ” Be well” and the baby will be cured. But He does not and babies are suffering.On the other hand the God that does not say and whose only demand on us is ” be good to one another and help each other ” is not worth worshiping.Yahweh, Jesus and Allah are not worth worshiping and it is possible that raising these idols to Godhood is the real blasphemy of history.We do not need another Jesus.

  • Jai Khosla

    Soja John Thaikattil of SydneyYour Nambudri Brahmin ancestors must never have read the Vedas, the Gita and the Upanishads. otherwise they would have never adopted a foreign idol as their main and only idol. The Vedas, the Gita and the Upanishads, all works of humans, have in them teachings that are far superior to anything Jesus taught. Had they read these books they might have converted St. Thomas to Hinduism.Instead of practicing a foreign faith look into your own heritage. you may very well decide to return to Hinduism.It is has been said Jesus learned Hindu philosophy while in India and applied it to Judaism to come with his own brand of teaching, albeit imperfectly. A Hindu sage would never drive pigs into the river and drown them like Jesus did.

  • Jai Khosla

    If we must go back to previous teachers, I would rather have another Buddha than Jesus. At least Buddha did not try to speculate on the nature of God. And he never committed violence of the kind Jesus was capable of including the silly anger against the swine who he claimed were filled with the devil. Also Buddha did not consort with a prostitute as Jesus did with Mary Magdalene.All one need to read are the Buddhist Dhammapada and the Christian NT and other books to understand that Buddhism is far superior to Christianity.

  • wallpass

    We don’t need a new Jesus. We just need people to come to know the only one there is. I marvel at the ignorance level many have about Jesus. Most think they know something about the Jesus found in the 4 gospels, but few of them have actually read them enough to speak authoritatively. Deepak seems to be one of them.

  • wallpass

    We don’t need a new Jesus. We just need people to come to know the only one there is. I marvel at the ignorance level many have about Jesus. Most think they know something about the Jesus found in the 4 gospels, but few of them have actually read them enough to speak authoritatively about Him. Deepak included.

  • wallpass

    We don’t need a new Jesus. We just need people to come to know the only one there is. I marvel at the ignorance level many have about Jesus. Most think they know something about the Jesus found in the 4 gospels, but few of them have actually read them enough to speak authoritatively about Him. Deepak included.

  • Sully

    faithfulservant3 wrote: “The Christian community is often mischaracterized and even demonized. Some of us help in providing the ammunition.”"The christian community”. I find this term enlightening about christians. Did Christ consider those who followed him to be in a christian community and those who did not follow him outside that community? Or did He consider all of humanity to be children of God? It is only human to tribalize ourselves, make clans, gangs, nations, etc. Religion is just another vehicle for separating ourselves from others, something that is completely against Christ’s teachings. faithfulservant3 wrote: “At any rate, sometimes believers are accused of being paranoid. However, honest liberals admit that many people discriminate against Christians.”A good christian would not really care if they were being discriminated against. If they were it would simply be the price for believing. And a real christian would not hold any malice against those who discriminate against them, for that too is a teaching of Christ. And a real christian would not label people as “liberals”, as though all who call themselves liberal say the same thing, or are outside the “christian community”. Christ spoke of inclusiveness. faithfulservant3, like many of evangelical teaching, speak of separatedness, being attacked, and otherwise closed in.Today in America christianity has been made into a paranioid cult by its leaders who find that a cult mentality holds the flock closer and extracts more money. Instead of the truth of God being what is important, the fires of hell are vividly painted to hold the flock in fear. When did Christ invoke hell to make a point? Pointing out real discrimination, as though it happens to no other group, helps keep a siege mentality that is necessary for a cult mentality to form. Christians are no more discriminated against than blacks, jews, muslims, or women, yet for some reason this is preached as some unique form of discrimination, which allows some christian leaders to get into politics, something which Christ did not think was important in order to following Him or God. The christians of Rome were fed to the lions. You can’t get much more discriminated against than that, yet they percevered in their Truth, and changed the world. Suck it up and stop whining faithfulservant3 and consider yourself lucky to be discriminated against. Its part of holding on to your faith, something you should look on with pride and not act like a child who is being shunned by the other kids. Consider the discrimination something to bear during this lentan season and stop acting like you deserve something, because if Christ taught us anything it was that what counts are YOUR actions, not judging the actions of others that you find offensive and building fear or hate.

  • Anonymous

    you do not order up Jesus like you do fast food. you got your one Jesus and that is all you get.

  • moe

    We need a new Jesus like we need a hole in the head. What we need to is to come to terms with the 21st century. Accept that Jesus is mythology and he will never come to us in a donkey, let alone in a Honda Civic.We need to move to the next level of conciousness, accept that we are responsible for our actions and that no donkey ridding hippie is going to save you!!!

  • Jack

    When I went to France I saw young Indians praying at the uncorrupted body of St. Bernadette – at 169 years of age she remains as beautiful as the day she died. They found their proof. Initially, I was going to tell them that it wasn’t right to pray before her body during the consecration of the Eucharist – since we were all in the presence of something far greater at that moment – the living God hidden under the accidents of bread and wine. But I was glad I didn’t they had come all the way from India and found their proof. What they had been taught in that old dusty Catholic missionary was true. God bless

  • lindafranke1952

    2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.Not many people want to do what it takes to understand the depths of Christianity. Most go to church and listen to someone else’s interpretation. They either agree or disagree. If anyone truly wants to understand the scriptures they should work toward reading them with a spiritual attitude of innocence, like a child. This will not answer all questions but it’s a good beginning.

  • Janet

    Bravo, Deepak. Thank you for talking sense, instead of misguided theology. Thanks for giving people the words to free themselves from the constricting and limiting belief structures built up over several thousand years by narrow-minded and/or power seeking human beings.

  • Idolator

    Call for second or third coming of Muslim’s prophet Mohammed and see what Muslims will do to you!!Be fair. You are a gutsy man, aren’t you, Chopra?

  • Eric

    You’re mistaken. Humans shouldn’t ever rely on just one “leader”. If you’ve been paying attention, there should be many humans who come to mind as excellent role models for us.Many musicians, writers, poets, artists. Some (but very few) politicians. There are hundreds of prime role models stuck in poverty and/or behind prison bars for their beliefs. These people will never be heard from by the masses.The modern-day story of Jesus is mostly bullsh*t. Immaculate conception? Walking on water, rising from the dead? Those who believe that nonsense are already behind in life and knowledge. Those who encourage such beliefs and ficticious stories of this nonsense are simply enablers of one kind of power structure. If it’s not the corporations, it’s the religions that are presently dooming the human race to perpetual ignorance.

  • LUISA

    washington post is a satanic newspaper that are trying to confuse christian people but you will not do it.

  • FunTravelAdventure

    Jumpin jeezus k frog.Why in the world would we need a new jeezus when we can’t even get rid of the old one.The earth and all it’s people will be a lot better off when jeezus, ally oop, buddah and all the rest of the Disney characters are long forgotten.

  • speed123

    Looks like you are trying to cash in on this “growth industry” that includes the likes of Dan Brown…I thought you were a scholar, Chopra….You make a false division between the rabbi and the Son of God, as Christ stated explicitly that He was no mere rabbi and that He was, in fact, the Son of Man.Nice try, Chopra, I hope you buy a nice new mansion to “meditate” in with the book proceeds.It must be close to Easter, the publishers and main stream media are bringing out the Jesus “theories” and other thinly veiled attacks on Christianity…

  • nin Privitera

    I love you Deepak but you don’t get it. The only reason that we know anything about Jesus and his impossible teachings is because he was killed and is resurrected and was seen by his followers who went to their deaths incapable of rejecting the truth of what they had experienced. Jesus isn’t guiding us today by teachings that the world rejects and what’s so revolutionary about loving one another anyways?Sorry Deepak, Jesus isn’t changing people’s lives by his philosophy or teachings. He’s changing lives because He and The Father are a real force in the universe that is manifested in the Holy Spirit through which the Kingdom of God is expanding.I respectfully disagree with your version of the truth. The only test that is reliable is by testing the fruits of various beliefs. Are you ready?

  • nin Privitera

    I love you Deepak but you don’t get it. The only reason that we know anything about Jesus and his impossible teachings is because he was killed and is resurrected and was seen by his followers who went to their deaths incapable of rejecting the truth of what they had experienced. Jesus isn’t guiding us today by teachings that the world rejects and what’s so revolutionary about loving one another anyways?Sorry Deepak, Jesus isn’t changing people’s lives by his philosophy or teachings. He’s changing lives because He and The Father are a real force in the universe that is manifested in the Holy Spirit through which the Kingdom of God is expanding.I respectfully disagree with your version of the truth. The only test that is reliable is by testing the fruits of various beliefs. Are you ready?

  • nin Privitera

    I love you Deepak but you don’t get it. The only reason that we know anything about Jesus and his impossible teachings is because he was killed and is resurrected and was seen by his followers who went to their deaths incapable of rejecting the truth of what they had experienced. Jesus isn’t guiding us today by teachings that the world rejects and what’s so revolutionary about loving one another anyways?Sorry Deepak, Jesus isn’t changing people’s lives by his philosophy or teachings. He’s changing lives because He and The Father are a real force in the universe that is manifested in the Holy Spirit through which the Kingdom of God is expanding.I respectfully disagree with your version of the truth. The only test that is reliable is by testing the fruits of various beliefs. Are you ready?

  • nin Privitera

    I love you Deepak but you don’t get it. The only reason that we know anything about Jesus and his impossible teachings is because he was killed and is resurrected and was seen by his followers who went to their deaths incapable of rejecting the truth of what they had experienced. Jesus isn’t guiding us today by teachings that the world rejects and what’s so revolutionary about loving one another anyways?Sorry Deepak, Jesus isn’t changing people’s lives by his philosophy or teachings. He’s changing lives because He and The Father are a real force in the universe that is manifested in the Holy Spirit through which the Kingdom of God is expanding.I respectfully disagree with your version of the truth. The only test that is reliable is by testing the fruits of various beliefs. Are you ready?

  • nin Privitera

    I love you Deepak but you don’t get it. The only reason that we know anything about Jesus and his impossible teachings is because he was killed and is resurrected and was seen by his followers who went to their deaths incapable of rejecting the truth of what they had experienced. Jesus isn’t guiding us today by teachings that the world rejects and what’s so revolutionary about loving one another anyways?Sorry Deepak, Jesus isn’t changing people’s lives by his philosophy or teachings. He’s changing lives because He and The Father are a real force in the universe that is manifested in the Holy Spirit through which the Kingdom of God is expanding.I respectfully disagree with your version of the truth. The only test that is reliable is by testing the fruits of various beliefs. Are you ready?

  • B David

    It’s amazing how little this has to do with reality in any form, from the article itself to the comments it inspired. Because we need “a new Jesus,” we can just make one? Why not make a new Lincoln? You’d have just as much luck trying to raise him from the dead.

  • Jim Playter

    Deepak Chopra is a hindu/universalist, trying to sound like a Christian. Jesus was not a rabbi or teacher, and he didn’t become God, or have a God consciousness. He is God. His mind is the mind of God. Deepak quotes John 10:34 out of context in order to promote his teaching that we are all in God and God is in all of us. But the reality is that we don’t need a 3rd Jesus. We just need to know the real Jesus, of whom Deepak knows very little.

  • Tim

    Being a good guru in life isn’t going to help when death and eternity beckoning your name. All this new age garbage isn’t going to restore you to the creator God, only life through Jesus who is the only way, truth and source of life.

  • John

    Deepak Chopra is a Hindu. He does not understand who Jesus is and should not be considered an authority on the Son of God. We do not need a “new” Jesus. The real Jesus will do just fine.

  • TMo

    B DAVID:You said, “Because we need ‘a new Jesus,’ we can just make one?”I think what Deepak is trying to say (yes, we’re on a first-name basis) is that we as Christians (I was raised Catholic) need to step back from the chaos in our world and reexamine who Jesus was and what he stood for and what he was actually trying to teach us. The fact is, we constantly reinterpret Jesus’ life and teachings to suit our own flaws, such as greed and conceit, and we use what was meant to instill peace and understanding as a weapon, justifying our hate and our wrong-doings by saying, “Jesus said so. Here it is in the Bible. See? He hates gays…immigrants…Arabs.” (for example)To those above saying things like, “We don’t need another Jesus,” etc., you must recognize that this “third Jesus” whom Chopra speaks of always was and always is. The “third Jesus” does not need invention; it needs recognition and procurement from within ourselves. Only through being true to ourselves, recognizing God’s creation in ourselves and everyone and everything, and ceasing to exploit our messiahs’ teachings will we be able to live in peace and harmony with ourselves and with those around us. And this goes for all religions.It is my personal belief that if Jesus truly is God, in the trinitarian ‘big guy in the sky’ sense, then so are every other religion’s gods. I prefer to think of Jesus as God in a Buddhist sense, in the same ways that all of us are reflections of God, and therefore we must respect ourselves and others as such, and we must strive to be examples of our godliness through our thoughts and actions. Through love, not hate.

  • FunTravelAdventure

    RedRose1, jeezus krist. Are you the same RedRose1 who rattles on how the Boomer generation should all die and get out of the way.How terribly christian of you, you hypocrite.

  • Brooks

    Wow, that is pretty deep; to think that Jesus was all about God-consciousness! If one quote from Psalm 82 gives you that impression I’d hate to think what kind of conclusions you’d draw if you actually read the rest of the Bible.I don’t mean to sound rude, truly, but that is the most ridiculous thing you can say about the Messiah. He wasn’t trying to raise anyone’s consciousness. He said of Himself, “I came to seek and to save that which is lost.” He was God in the flesh! He came here to save mankind from its sinfulness. He’s not some kind of mystical spiritual leader!You are right, however, Deepak, in this day and age we do need a “new” Jesus. I think the better way to state it is: “We need a better and a correct presentation of Jesus.” Nowadays He gets mangled all over the place by people voicing their opinions about who He is or what they want Him to be instead of looking to the source to find out who He really is.Any other presentation of Him outside of Biblical context is idolatry (violation of the 2nd Commandment: Exodus 20). If you don’t understand Jesus correctly, you are not talking about the Jesus Christ of the Bible; that “other” person is a figment of your imagination.The “lost” I referred to in the 2nd paragraph is all of mankind. We have all sinned against God. The Bible tells us that “…we’ve all sinned and fall short of God’s glory” (Romans 3:23). How’s that? Well, if you’ve ever lied you’ve broken the 9th Commandment, if you’ve ever stolen anything you’ve violated the 8th Commandment, if you misused God’s name or the name of Jesus, you’ve broken the 3rd Commandment, adultery is the breaking of the 7th. Jesus even said that if you have lusted after someone you’ve committed adultery in your heart (Matthew 5:28). No one can say that they are not guilty of breaking these commandments. There has only been one perfect man in this world. His name is Jesus. No one is perfect, not one of us.The reason this is so important to realize is that Jesus, as represented in the Bible, out of great love and compassion, came to this earth to take our punishment for these sins. It’s like this: You have committed a heinous crime and are standing before the judge for sentencing. You have been proven guilty and the fine and/or penalty is beyond your capability to pay. Someone you don’t know steps in and pays your fine out of compassion and mercy towards you. Once the fine had been paid you’re free to go. The law no longer has its hold on you because your fine has been paid. That’s what Jesus did for us. That is the Jesus of the Bible. Anything else is a phony. Don’t buy into this “new age” mystical view of someone who doesn’t even exist. We’re all guilty of sin and need the forgiveness that will pay our fine in the sight of God. Only Jesus can do that.I hope the folks who let posts go through will have the integrity to let this pass. It’d be great to see someone allowed to counter some of the nonsense that gets presented when people try to impose their worldly views onto Jesus. We’ll see…Blessings to you all.

  • Anonymous

    “I don’t think Historic Christianity has much to worry about.”You’re not understanding. Historic Christianity is not RELEVANT anymore.The obvious god created in man’s image is now too phony for thinking people to believe in, especially the torturous Jesus freaks. Jesus Christ indeed had a short public life, decried any kind of religious institution or need for buildings (which, like most things biblical, most christians ignore). While Jesus called himself the son of God, he also called his followers children of God. No need to pretend he was a deity. No need for a false religion to be born around a myth.If Jesus was such a deity in real life, how come not a SINGLE CONTEMPORARY wrote down a SINGLE WORD about him?Biblical writings started anywhere from 40 to 90 years AFTER Jesus died. They had no computers, very little written word – this was myth; made up for future consumption by those that want to control with religion – especially in medieval times.

  • Spiritual Mongrel

    Given the numerous denominations of Christianity I always find it interesting that someone has the absolute answer. Not all of you can be correct and that assumes that Christianity is “better” than other religions (or non at all). Once all of Christianity agrees on their religion then we might have something to talk about.TMO.Very nice post. Yes I believe we are talking about defining God/Jesus properly for maybe the first time.I think in general we have created God in man’s image, because that was all we could comprehend. With our greater understanding and sophistication it is time to revisit our definitions(s) of God. We are ready for more but unless we are open to the possibilities we will not see them.This doesn’t mean the ancient wisdom traditions are necessarily wrong. In many cases we have had trouble seeing the true meaning of numerous ideologies of the original teachings. We have surrendered our critical thinking to books and religious leaders and forgotten how to connect with God on our own. We are positioned to enhance our understanding of God which is a natural step in our spiritual evolution.

  • Kurt Engelhart

    A History of Religious Ideas Vols.1-3: by Mircea Eliade. Christianity is such a small part of this history that any emphasis of its importance is evidence of being completely under the influence of superstition. Superstition is driven by ignorance and fear, not knowledge and love.

  • Moe Hawm Ed

    We don’t need a new Jesus.Someone just needs to answer one thing, and all will be understood…What does the “H” stand for in Jesus’s middle name?

  • Anonymous

    looks like the wog printed the wrong article.

  • Lilly Jane Alexander

    Excellent essay on the changing nature of man’s interpretation of divine love and law**

  • Bill

    Dear Anonymous:Aaah!

  • Jeremy Lowrey

    I fear there is one overriding question that Mr. Chopra’s essay fails to answer. If we are responsible for defining Jesus for ourselves, where then is our hope. Mr. Chopra seems to concede that humans as we currently exist are incapable of living life on God’s terms – indeed, he says this is impossible – and I agree with that position. But if that is the case, we have no hope of ever reaching God unless Jesus IS who He is presented to be in the Gospels. Jesus said He was the “Way the Truth, and the Life” – not out of arrogance but from necessity. Without His redemptive sacrifice, the path to God would be forever closed to us. More than anything else, Mr. Chopra is claiming that as an “enlightened society” we no longer have a need for Truth, much less “the Truth,” and that we can define our own realities based on personal mythology. But if we are incapable of achieving God’s vision on our own, those new realities will be no better than the old. And ultimately, all of our efforts will have no lasting value and personal illusions on which we based that reality will die with us. I believe there is only one Christ, that He is the Truth, and that meaning and value can be found only in Him. Either He can truly change the nature of who we are if we place faith in Him, or we are without hope.Of those who contend that Jesus is not true, or that God is not, I ask only one thing – an honest search for what IS true. I have no illusions of being able to convince you that Jesus is real – despite His reality in my own life – but I have faith that God can, and that He will reveal Truth to those who are willing to abandon preconceptions, self-interest, and self-justification, and seek only Him. Jeremiah 29:12-13

  • K Cronin

    AMEN!!!

  • K Cronin

    AMEN!

  • k c

    (btw – i was “amen-ing” the article, not the nut in the previous post).This board is depressing. All the mentally-ill jesus-freaks logged in at once.

  • Chaotician

    Emperor The Bible was mostly written from the letters of Paul defending his heresy to the followers of Jesus and the brother of Jesus…if you believe the Bible at all. Paul never even met Jesus!And what happened to the letters from the people who received these letters? Why would a Roman Emperor be needed to have his “guy” make a judgment on what tales were to be in the “Bible”? At best, we have stories about Jesus from some of his followers; but where is his brother, his mother, his father?Paul created this Church, not Jesus! There is no indication at all that Jesus, if he existed, had even a notion of a new religion…after all, he was trying to fulfill the Jewish prophecies!

  • Richard R

    “We need another Jesus”? Not hardly… Since religion is pre-philosophy, i.e., the myth/explanations that primitive man gave to natural phenomena. The alternative is a reality and nature-based philosophy that will give us the means to live a fulfilling life. Reason and Reality are a good place to start, not superstition and myth.

  • Jai Khosla

    Jeremy LowreyI showed you the truth. If you must have God in your life than chooses a God that only demands that we be good to one another and help each other. If our God does not wish this from us he is not worth worshiping.The Christian god Jesus, entirely created by humans, does not fit this bill.You may find salvation thru the man-made idol named Jesus but I find my salvation by worshiping God thru service to others.Give my way a try and salvation will be immediate.You surely do not wish to worship a god that threatens with hell fires as Jesus did, do you??

  • Anonymous

    Christianity like Islam is an idolatrous faith. The true nature of the idolatory of Christianity lies in the fact the idol Jesus is entirely of human creation, very much similar to the Islamic idol Allah , who was created by Muhammad and in the fact that these two idols are defined by words that have been made permanent.I will not label Christianity and Islam as blasphemous because I do not believe that the true God, unlike the god of Christianity and Islam, is offended by idolatry and humans ascribing human attributes to him. ” Thou shall not worship any other god besides me is a very human statement propelled by jealousy and envy.The nature of the Christian and the Islamic idol is most harmful because they are word idols–in other words, idols whose permanence is manifested in the non-changeability of the scriptures of the idol worshipers. Thus the words alleged to have been said by the idol, whether Jesus or Allah, cannot be changed although in the formative years of the Koran and the NT the words were frequently revised by the authors. Compare with the cross as an idol. I am sure that Christians would have no hesitation in destroying a wood cross that is infested with termites but would not change the alleged words of the alleged god Jesus.The word nature of these idols is what makes them dangerous. Allah said women may be beaten up but no Muslim will dare to change these evil words uttered by Allah.Ditto Allah, except that Muslims go one step further because they will not destroy a Koran that say has become infested with antrups, that mythological ant that became a demon.It should not surprise any one that these two major idol worshiping religions or cults have also been the inspiration for most of the massacres and land thefts in recent human history.The theft of land and property of Jews of Arabia by Muhammad are well documented. The theft of land in North and South America and in Australia, New Zealand and South Africa by white skinned Christians surpasses all previous land robberies. Now these whites will deny Mexicans the right to enter a land that inhabited long before the whites stole it from them. Obscure interpretations or downright adherence to the letter of the scriptures have been used to justify the robberies. After all Jesus did say, allegedly, that the “poor shall always be with us.” Had Jesus been a good god he would have banished poverty with 3 words” Poverty be gone.”.

  • Sara Badaracco

    >>What Jesus envisioned was a world ruled by God, which cannot occur unless human nature changes radically. In everyday life Jesus’s teachings are impossible to follow. Ordinary awareness doesn’t permit us to follow the Golden Rule. If we treated everyone else the way we wanted to be treated, there would be no wars, crime, or divorce. If we obeyed the injunction to resist not evil, all too probably the world’s evil-doers would run amok.<<If Jesus' teachings can only be followed in the ivory tower of our own private ideals, then His teachings are worthless. The Jesus I know put His words into action. He gave His back to those who beat Him and stretched out His hands to those who would nail them to the cross. In doing this, He completed the ultimate act of forgiveness. You cannot forget something like that. We expect to be resisted. We expect hatred to return hatred. What do you do with somebody who returns your anger with the vibrant love of Christ? For such love, I would lay down my very life. All that we think has meaning in this world pales in comparison to the love and holiness of Christ. You're right, Deepak, if we were all followers of Christ, there would be no wars, crime, or divorce. The "god" in me can't hack it Jesus' way. It always seems to fail me at the worst possible moment. I put my trust in the God of the universe, in the real and sinless Jesus Christ.

  • Sara Badaracco

    >>What Jesus envisioned was a world ruled by God, which cannot occur unless human nature changes radically. In everyday life Jesus’s teachings are impossible to follow. Ordinary awareness doesn’t permit us to follow the Golden Rule. If we treated everyone else the way we wanted to be treated, there would be no wars, crime, or divorce. If we obeyed the injunction to resist not evil, all too probably the world’s evil-doers would run amok.If Jesus’ teachings can only be followed in the ivory tower of our own private ideals, then His teachings are worthless. The Jesus I know put His words into action. He gave His back to those who beat Him and stretched out His hands to those who would nail them to the cross. In doing this, He completed the ultimate act of forgiveness. You cannot forget something like that. We expect to be resisted. We expect hatred to return hatred. What do you do with somebody who returns your anger with the vibrant love of Christ? For such love, I would lay down my very life, because all that we think has meaning in this world pales in comparison to the love and holiness of Christ. You’re right, Deepak, if we were all followers of Christ, there would be no wars, crime, or divorce. The “god” in me can’t hack it Jesus’ way. It always seems to fail me at the worst possible moment. I put my trust in the God of the universe, in the real and sinless Jesus Christ.

  • Thomas Baum

    TO KELLY: You wrote, ” It also says that the only way to God is through Jesus,”, that is not what Jesus said. Jesus said, “I Am the Way, the Truth and the Life, no one comes to the Father except thru Me”. Considering that God is a Trinity and is One and is a Being of Pure Love, the difference between what you wrote and what Jesus said is huge. Take care, be ready, see you and the rest of humanity in the Kingdom. Sincerely, Thomas Paul Moses Baum.

  • cbl-pdx

    What really makes me amused is all of the holy, holies on here quoting the bible to prove the bible. They can’t give any other rational argument for their beliefs except the book told them so and then they quote the book to prove their point. How silly.Also, maybe C.S. Lewis was right (ie. messiah or lunatic). But unlike the holy, holies, maybe lunatic is the correct answer.

  • Providence Candlelight

    What amuses me is that the author of this silliness is a snake oil salesman.Providence

  • Anonymous

    Jesus did not exist. There was not such a person in history. See Earl Doherty’s “The Jesus Puzzle” book and web site.

  • sam

    The world can’t afford the Jesus and Mohamed that we presently have. We certainly don’t need more such myths serving to segregate humans into warring factions deftly controlled by greedy power brokers.

  • dionysis

    I think the Islamists need a new Mohammed.

  • Mukesh Mehta

    Deepak,

  • DoTheRightThing

    It must not be supposed, because the doctrine of the Cross makes us sad, that therefore the Gospel is a sad religion. The Psalmist says, “They that sow in tears shall reap in joy;” and our Lord says, “They that mourn shall be comforted.” Let no one go away with the impression that the Gospel makes us take a gloomy view of the world and of life. It hinders us indeed from taking a superficial view, and finding a vain transitory joy in what we see; but it forbids our immediate enjoyment, only to grant enjoyment in truth and fulness afterwards. It only forbids us to begin with enjoyment. It only says, If you begin with pleasure, you will end with pain. It bids us begin with the Cross of Christ, and in that Cross we shall at first find sorrow, but in a while peace and comfort will rise out of that sorrow. That Cross will lead us to mourning, repentance, humiliation, prayer, fasting; we shall sorrow for our sins, we shall sorrow with Christ’s sufferings; but all this sorrow will only issue, nay, will be undergone in a happiness far greater than the enjoyment which the world gives, — though careless worldly minds indeed will not believe this, ridicule the notion of it, because they never have tasted it, and consider it a mere matter of words, which religious persons think it decent and proper to use, and try to believe themselves, and to get others to believe, but which no one really feels. This is what they think; but our Saviour said to His disciples, “Ye now therefore have sorrow, but I will see you again, and your heart shall rejoice, and your joy no man taketh from you.” … “Peace I leave with you; My peace I give unto you; not as the world giveth, give I unto you.” [John xvi. 22; xiv. 27.] And St. Paul says, “The natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God; for they are foolishness unto him; neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.” “Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love Him.” [1 Cor. ii. 9, 14.] And thus the Cross of Christ, as telling us of our redemption as well as of His sufferings, wounds us indeed, but so wounds as to heal also.

  • Ashley
  • StephenS2S

    CBL-PDX:Thanks for your comments. You nailed it with C.S. Lewis – Jesus IS Lord, Liar, or Lunatic.And your choice of lunatic is one of the only viable options. Jesus is not merely a spiritual teacher, not merely a prophet, not the founder of a religion. None of those are consistent with his divine claims. He claimed to be God (in several places in the Gospel accounts and corroborated by applying several Old Testament Messianic/God references to himself). If he new it wasn’t true, he is THE liar.If he didn’t know that it wasn’t true, he is your lunatic (your choice).Any honest evaluation of his teaching and works on the earth rule out both of these options. That inevitably leads you to recognising that Jesus is Lord. And as Lord, Jesus has a claim on our lives – how we live them. In short, Jesus directs us to ‘repent and believe’ (Mark 1) and ‘Come, follow me.’ The context is that the Kingdom of God is at hand.This is not a narrowly denominational or religious invitation/command. It is made to everyone, regardless of upbringing, country of origin, philosophy, language, or religion.

  • Che Baraka

    My brother Deepak,Your words speak to what I believe is perhaps latent knowledge within each of us. It has been Re-membered and forgotten at numerous points during human history. It is the birth of a new idea of Jesus or religion, that we create depending upon the focus and agenda of our collective consciousness at a particular point.The historical Jesus and the physical events we attribute to him are only the symbols for deeply profound ideas.We are both the creators and creations.I forget the chapter and verse, but your words brought to my mind the New Testament passage that says:”And be not conformed to this world, but be ye transformed through the Re-Newing of your mind…so that you may know what is that true and perfect will of god…think soberly…according to your faith.” Christ consciousness awaits our Re-Birth.

  • Robert Montgomery

    I find Dr. Chopra’s article very inspiring and encouraging…it is in keeping with the opinions of Tom Harpur (“The Pagan Christ”). They both make clear distinctions between faith and religion, and while one may inevitably lead to the other over time, it should not stop us from constantly examining and evaluating both. We know that for the most part, our brains are governed by the mammalian, emotional lobes rather than the more recent Frontal , rational ones. I often wonder if we emerged as pack animals, and not unlike wolves, need to defer to an alpha male that exerts authority over our behaviour and ranking in society. If such a biological imperative does exist, it would be easily exploited by anyone seeking authority over others’ lives. This is one area in which reason is needed in faith, so that we don’t find ourselves of defering to people, places and things that might well be asking us behaviors that are not only lacking creativity, but in fact counciling destructive ones. A personal, internalized Jesus is certainly a break from the pack mentality.

  • Diane L. Harris

    All cleverness aside, Mr. Chopra, there is only one Jesus and we all (Christians and non-Christians alike) would do well to stop making Him into our own images and live to be more like Him instead. If we devoted our hearts and minds to Christ-consciousness rather than divisive nation- or race- or gender- or self-consciousness, what a wonderful world this would be.Diane L. Harris

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