“Aliens in America” About All of Us

Given the rave reviews, you would think the CW’s Aliens in America was a major step forward in American art, … Continued

Given the rave reviews, you would think the CW’s Aliens in America was a major step forward in American art, something like the third part of Tony Kushner’s masterpiece Angels in America.

Not quite. Aliens in America is, well, a sitcom – which is to say that, like most sitcoms, it is a parade of stock characters strung together by thin humor and improbable transitions.

The high school boys make lewd comments about the high school girls. The girls giggle and squeal and wear low-cut tops and try to decide if being voted “most bang-able” is a compliment or an insult. The dad sits on the couch and drinks beer and the mom quits the PTA to focus on making her son popular (which reinforces the truism my father told me when I was graduating from college: most of life is a lot like high school).

Raja, the Pakistani Muslim – the “alien” in America – surprises the family by doing the dishes, praying in the living room and generally being a polite teenager.

The show has gotten excellent reviews largely because the stereotypes in question – small town Americans and South Asian Muslims – appear to be at war everywhere else.

Yet, for all its eye-rolling typical sitcom schtick, Aliens in America succeeds in poking gentle fun at how knee-jerk and narrow America has become since 9/11 on the issue of how we view the fifth of humanity that is Muslim. The fact that there are genuine moments where the sweetness of high school friendship replaces ignorance and insults makes Aliens in America more than worth watching.

“We have the opportunity to spend the year in the presence of a real live Pakistani who practices ‘Muslimism’,” says the perky Wisconsin high school teacher.

“Raja, you are so different from us – how does that feel?”

Raja is at a loss for words. He didn’t come to America to highlight the differences or widen the divide.

The teacher turns to her class, “How does everybody else feel about Raja and his differences?”

One girl offers, “I guess I feel angry because his people blew up the buildings in New York.”

Raja tries to protest, and gets scolded in return. “In America, we raise our hands before we speak,” the teacher says, and then asks the rest of the class whether they agree that Raja is responsible for blowing up the World Trade Center. The students, observing the classroom etiquette demanded by their teacher, all raise their hands and politely label their new classmate a terrorist.

“Raja, you are so different from us – how does that feel?”

Raja is at a loss for words. He didn’t come to America to highlight the differences or widen the divide.

The teacher turns to her class, “How does everybody else feel about Raja and his differences?”

One girl offers, “I guess I feel angry because his people blew up the buildings in New York.”

Raja tries to protest, and gets scolded in return. “In America, we raise our hands before we speak,” the teacher says, and then asks the rest of the class whether they agree that Raja is responsible for blowing up the World Trade Center. The students, observing the classroom etiquette demanded by their teacher, all raise their hands and politely label their new classmate a terrorist.

It would be a better world if such scenes only happened in television shows. Unfortunately, more and more Americans are viewing Muslims as only different. A recent Pew survey found that 70% of Americans say they have little or nothing in common with Muslims.

Viewing a group of people as aliens because of their faith is against everything America stands for. Our poets, playwrights and philosophers have always understood that America, unlike many other nations, is based on an idea, not an ethnicity or a religion, the essence of which is that our dream of opportunity for all is made real by people who come from every corner and pray in every way, or no way at all. Even given the drawbacks of the genre, I am happy that sitcom-writers are singing this most American song:

When we treat our neighbors and guests of a different faith as strangers, we become the aliens in America.

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  • Zee

    I got to see the show with my kids, being a Muslim American with roots in Pakistan, this was extremely well made. And it was hilarious.

  • Ali

    While the faith itself may not be at odds with American ideals and America as a nation, the practice of it certainly can be. I’m of Lebanese Christian ancestry and have lived in secular Muslim Turkey as well as Muslim theocracies. Unfortunately, many Muslims do not practice what you’re preaching. Freedom of religion is not encouraged and in fact is often discouraged overtly or covertly. You should also recall that many of those involved in the terror attacks were highly educated and had spent considerable time in the West prior to and while plotting their terrorist acts. To pretend that all Muslims are like the archetype in the TV show is to deny reality. The balancing act for us in the West is to decide how tolerant a tolerant society should be toward people whose religion is often intolerant to others.

  • Ali

    While the faith itself may not be at odds with American ideals and America as a nation, the practice of it certainly can be. I’m of Lebanese Christian ancestry and have lived in secular Muslim Turkey as well as Muslim theocracies. Unfortunately, many Muslims do not practice what you’re preaching. Freedom of religion is not encouraged and in fact is often discouraged overtly or covertly. You should also recall that many of those involved in the terror attacks were highly educated and had spent considerable time in the West prior to and while plotting their terrorist acts. To pretend that all Muslims are like the archetype in the TV show is to deny reality. The balancing act for us in the West is to decide how tolerant a tolerant society should be toward people whose religion is often intolerant to others, or to secularism.

  • Ali

    While the faith itself may not be at odds with American ideals and America as a nation, the practice of it certainly can be. I’m of Lebanese Christian ancestry and have lived in secular Muslim Turkey as well as Muslim theocracies. Unfortunately, many Muslims do not practice what you’re preaching. Freedom of religion is not encouraged and in fact is often discouraged overtly or covertly. You should also recall that many of those involved in the terror attacks were highly educated and had spent considerable time in the West prior to and while plotting their terrorist acts. To pretend that all Muslims are like the archetype in the TV show is to deny reality. The balancing act for us in the West is to decide how tolerant a tolerant society should be toward people whose religion is often intolerant to others, or to secularism.

  • jon

    What an ironic and prophetic choice of title. So many Muslims are and will always be: …ALIENS IN AMERICA…

  • Tahar Labidi

    SHALLOW AND BORDING ON THE BROWN NOSE ATTITUDE…. NO WONDER YOU GET FEW COMMENTS…

  • Betty Carr

    I remember when I was in grade school that when a new student came to our small town from St. Louis, sixty miles north, that we labeled them as different. Well, they did talk funny.

  • Arif

    Some day Eboo you may get it, till then I hope you at least try to learn. As a practicing Muslim below are some of the problems you face while in an infidels country…Then you wonder why your Non-Muslim hosts don’t accept you?

  • jasmine

    Arif:Thanks for that cartoon caricature of a Muslim. Now do you want to try again with a more realistic assessment. That’s assuming you have ever even met a Muslim.

  • Anonymous

    Arif.. Jasmine must be myopic. You have a great eye for the trouble Muslims encounter -not just in America but in every western country they inhabit.I’ll be sending your post around via emails. Hope you don’t mind. I find your words insightful and would like to share with others.

  • aussie

    A real christian would be as alien as any other religion in the u.s.or any other country.

  • aussie

    A real christian would be as alien as any other religion in the u.s.or any other country.

  • aussie

    A real christian would be as alien as any other religion in the u.s.or any other country.

  • aussie

    A real christian would be as alien as any other religion in the u.s.or any other country.

  • aussie

    A real christian would be as alien as any other religion in the u.s.or any other country.

  • aussie

    A real christian would be as alien as any other religion in the u.s.or any other country.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know if it’s really fair based on one statistic to say that Americans can’t identify with Muslims, or tolerate them. Actually, and I don’t say this to be combative, but, honestly, it is true, Muslims have a far harder time in their own native countries (in the Middle East, discounting more liberal cultures like India, Bangladesh or Indonesia) accepting the culture not only of Christians, Jews, atheists or any other fairly mainstream American religion, but also American culture in general. If on a sit-com here a Muslim would be giggled at by air-headed stereotypes, you must admit that in the real world, real people would violently murder a Christian or American, and certainly already have.Of course, I make no argument that for their countless uninvited violations and invasions of Middle Eastern nations and their peoples by Western Hemisphere nations and Christians in particular, Muslims don’t have far more reason to hate us than we do them – that is, until six years ago. But the point is that there is not as much cultural rage against Muslims even today as there is still race conflict between Latin immigrants or blacks, and whites. Really, freedom of religion has been a given so long in our culture that not many people will try to deny it or abridge it (at least not significantly).

  • uquery

    Ok, if I understand what you’re saying, you mean that Muslims are more violent than Christians but they have provocation? Well even on their own Muslims seem to have violent traditions in their own nations. The way Muslims code for women in certain areas of more extreme belief starts to become less the peaceful, thoughtful religion it is often famous for being and starts to become cruel – barbarity inflicted for incest cases, even if the incest is being raped? And the violent suppression of Kurds, or invasion of Iran, by Iraq? Saudi Arabian oil princes with no senses of international propriety? You’re right, some Muslims can be more violent, but with what provocation really? The Crusades?

  • Concerned The Christian Now Liberated

    Aussie,And you are a “real” Christian in Christian Australia???

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  • charles terry

    Most alien to me is an America that rejects science, reason and evidence for faith. Faith in the unreal, unprovable myths from ages gone by and unlamented.

  • steve morris, re

    Eboo,Americans attitudes would change overnight if all the so-called “moderate Muslims” in our country and around the world would just come out and condemn the terrorist groups and their evil (kid-bombs, filmed beheadings, targeting of innocents) ways. But alas, we hear nothing. And that silence speaks volumes to us. In short, Americans can see past this facile proganda. Sure, humor helps bring people together. But until we see a real groundswell among the so-called peaceful Muslims of the world against terrorism, we won’t buy it. And we won’t trust or respect you fully. To be fair, you must be afraid of blowback from your Muslim “friends.” And for that I do not blame you one bit. Although I do pity you for your lack of moral courage.

  • afzlr

    EbooEvery Muslim I’ve met in America (I’d guess around 300) starts out fine–Baseball, Weather, chit chat. About 45 seconds into the conversation–the ‘religion’ issue works its way in. Now, I am not a practicing Catholic but my hair stands up when this litany of victimhood starts to roll about how we have done this and that. OK, but if we carry all this over to our already overburdened lives here, it’s not going to end well.I get invited (and no longer accept) to these ‘Iftaar’ post Ramazan parties where the first time I was asked to wear one of those silly skull caps. I did this the first time but when I asked the same ‘friend’ to join us for Thanksgiving he refused–’Unislamic’ he said. So from non-practicing Catholic I am now unwillingly digging in my heels defending my religion that I really don’t want to.I now resent this one way attitude. I no longer accept nor invite these guys. Are they Aliens? To me yes. Eboo, drop this religion stuff. Become a mensch, an ordinary stiff like the rest of us. It will set us and you free

  • Ted Baines

    Mr Eboo PatelOne more time. You are preaching tolerance in the USA. Yet your holy land Saudi Arabia practices Islamic apartheid which all Muslims seem to condone.Saudi Arabia will not allow non-Muslims to visit Mecca and Medina.Saudi Arabia will not allow churches to be built anywhere in Saudi Arabia.Non-Muslims are not allowed to worship in public. The wearing of a Cross is a crime.If Muslims had any decency they would protest by boycotting the hajj until Saudi Arabia allows full freedom of religion.Could you comment, Mr. Patel????

  • Concerned The Christian Now Liberated

    Tarik,Fasting for a month??? Muslims fast from sunup to sundown and then party(and smoke all night) so give us a break with your “fasting”.Also there are a billion Muslims in the world because of the threat of the sword of death if you did not join during the pillaging and plundering years of Islam. Today, the threat of the same sword if you dare leave or speak against your warmongering, womanizing, plagiarizing and hallucinating founder keeps the number at a billion. Remove the threats and come to grips with your founder and Islam would disappear.

  • Concerned The Christian Now Liberated

    Eboo, Eboo,Again and again you fail to come to grips with the flaws of Islam.And as long as the militaristic passages in the koran remain, all Muslims to include the “Alien in America” will be considered potential terrorists.

  • E Peterson

    Any religion that denies human rights to women as a matter of course, is incompatible with American values. Ferociously intolerant of women, gays, agnostics, athiests, let alone members of other religions, in particular, Jews, it is, in fact, antagonistic to personal freedom, whether of religion or of thought. Emigration of Muslims to America is a huge mistake, both for the Muslims involved, but more particularly for America itself. There is no way a person who practices Islam could honestly support the American Constitution and anyone who does not whole-heartedly support the Constitution has no place in America.

  • Jimbo

    Muslims the world over danced in the streets on September 11,2001.Most were tickled pink to see the wicked infidels punished by the Holy Martyrs of Islam,who as we all know,are up there in Paradise with all those sexy young virgins,having a great old time.I bet they’re looking down on us and chuckling about how easy it was to crash those planes into the WTC,and how they felt no pain.

  • VICTORIA

    ALI- well NO DOUBT religion has been repressed by the militant secualrists in turkey- but thats bound to change after the july 22nd mandate of the peopleJON- not me dude- born and raised in the USA E PETERSON- ill pit my american family history and loyalty and service against yours anyday- i practice islam- to the best of my humble ability- and have actually read the constitution im protected in my practice of religionARIF- are you DAFT???? did you happen to notice this is an article ABOUT A TV SHOW??? STEVE MORRIS- i really dislike that term “moderate muslim” im not a ‘moderate muslim’ im just a muslim hoestly i can’ help it if you dont have the initiative to do a google on what muslims say-AFZLR- im sorry to hear about the bad experience you had thanksgiving isnt a religious holiday like observant jewish people only eat kosher, muslims eat halal- but a gracious invitation to eat makes it “kosher” for us. well, unless you were having roast pig or something. who has roast pig for thanksgiving? DG- HELLO THERE! peace all and ramadan mubarak brothers patel and tarik

  • Gregory

    Just goes to show you that indeed religion is the source of evil and prejudice and in order to help heal the human species, we must recognize religion for what it really is: a memetic disease waiting to be vanquised in all of us.

  • lawrence

    EBOO PATEL:Why won’t you write of the REAL “Faith Divide” –the tragedy of Muslim against Muslim violence.How can Allah be “most compassionate” when his followers proclaim his greatness (allahu akbar) while pillaging, raping, maiming,and murdering each other?EBOO. Something is dreadfully WRONG in your belief system. Step up and address this or realize that your “Faith Divide” column is just a waste of time..

  • Daniel

    In my opinion, Islam and Christianity are mirror images of each other. The major difference now is that Christianity has been “defanged” by the reformation and the secularization of European and American society, so that many different views are allowed to co-exist. Islam has not yet been “defanged.” But someday, it will be. There is a very mean streak that runs through Islam. And there is obviously some strange phenomenon, that has to do with upgrading and reforming its Medeival teachings, that cause some devout believers to devolve rapidly into confusion and nihilsim. I do not think that makes me Islamiphobic; but if some people choose to say that I am an Islamiphobe, that would not change my beliefs and fears regarding Islam. It is really the responsibility of Muslims to present their counter-argument that many people have against Islam.

  • VICTORIA

    buddhist- thats rather a divisive and racist thing to suggest. what about all inclusive mutts like myself?or we could all just go back to the ancient religions of the archaic hominid. yes, moving backwards is always preferable.

  • Arif

    Anon, you flatter me; please feel free to send emails to whomever you please. Veronica: under normal circumstances you would have been a smart person but Islam has taken control of your brain and you will soon become transparent if you have not already. Ablutions, five time prayers, superstitions, dietary requirements then gymnastics on a prayer rug can really take its toll you know. I highly recommend you live and work in an Islamic country of your choice for at least one year.Please people once and for all, one cannot hijack a religion let alone ones own religion. This is a wrong statement made by some apologist post 9/11 and many picked up on it. Technically hijackers hijack planes take them off-course and/or kill the passengers to appease their gods; Allah in our case. This concept does not in any way apply to a religion. Religions are what they are and you can’t hijack them. A hijacker, jihadi, fundamentalist cannot in any way hijack his/her religion they are simply acting out what their belief system dictates to them.

  • victoria

    arif- its victoria- you’re not exactly proving your stelllar abitily to intake simple information and process it through your brain functions so that it comes out with some resemblance to the truth here. and you dont seem to be able to make the simple distinction between politically motivated and religiously mandated actions. and im not going to move anywhere, why should i? YOU go somewhere else if you like daniel- just because you are not aware of something, doesnt mean it hasnt happened. the reforms you keep callng for have gone through a variety of evolutions- its not the religion that needs reformed but the political and social conditions of the people acting out that need reformed.

  • victoria

    kennth- you busted me- it was eactly my repulsive disfigured visage that i eagerly embraced the concept of shrouding myslef in the cool comfort of anonymity so the rest of the world didnt recoil in disgust and horror and repulsion every time they viewed the unfortunate spectre that is me. i feel sooo much better now.and what have you got against silliness one might ask?

  • chris

    Veronica:Once again-You have shown in your posts that you dislike America and are an avid follower of the Mo mindset. You seem to think being born in America is a free pass. You’ve apparently never heard of Islamotraitors like Adam Gadahn or John Walker Lindh.”and im not going to move anywhere, why should i?Just because someone is born in America -doesn’t mean they are loyal to American ideals. They may bring shame to their ancestors and fellow Americans.

  • Ted Baines

    TarikI skip lunch 200 days a year, perhaps more. My first meal is cereals and a banana and then my next meal is when I get home. I do drink lots of liquids as not drinking liquids is a sin against God.The Islamic Ramadan is not fasting, it is merely skipping lunch.

  • chris

    Victoria Says”ARIF- are you DAFT????Aliens in America is full of zoom-in t*t shots and sexual innuendo. Arif is correct. I’m sure Muslems will watch Aliens in America but- this TV show will corrupt many more Muslems than it converts Americans. No one I know would want to watch it.”STEVE MORRIS- i really dislike that term “moderate muslim”"I agree. There are Muslems and ex-Muslems. Victoria has shown in her posts that she dislikes America and is an avid Muslem. She seems to think being born in American is a free pass. She’s apparently never heard of Islamotraitors like Adam Gadahn or John Walker Lindh.

  • Faisal

    This show is apparently a takeoff the unfunny Canadian ‘comedy’ Little Mosque On The Prairie, where sensitive fun-loving Muslims show small town Canadian hicks how to behave.In other words, it’s total BS.

  • Brian P Davis

    It saddens me to see people in this country who claim to be proud Americans having disgust and even hate for Muslims in their hearts. Many of these same folks claim to be christians. Ironically, while they whole-heartedly support the so-called “war on terror”, they know very little about the facts. They could not name the Iraqi president, the capital of Afghanistan or even describe the basic differences between Shiite and Sunni What message are they sending to the world? Hypocrisy and hubris! Like Henry Ford once said, “You can get a Model-A in any color you want as long as it’s black.”

  • arlington

    I also find it disappointing that American-born actors of foreign descent can’t seem to play Americans either on stage or on screen. Why is it that at this day in age, the portrayal of Americans generally features white people, and in a growing number of instances, African Americans? ‘Aliens in America’ reinforces the disillusionment Hollywood has that foreigners are foreigners, regardless of their backgrounds and that they are make up a negligible and deplorable portion of our society. They need to wake up and realize they’re not much different from anyone else in this country. Rather than highlight these differences, as this tv show does, they should produce a show in which the relationships between people of different ethnic backgrounds are part of everyday life: not something to be scrutinized or over-analyzed.

  • Eric

    These On Faith comment threads are becoming more ridiculous by the day. It’s becoming a province of kooks.

  • Danny Leibowitz

    I think that the stupidity present in America today is surprising. It is absurd to think of muslims as so different from us, because they worship the same god and most of the same prophets as Jews and Christians. They celebrate the life of Christ, Moses, Abraham and many other shared prophets. To connect this muslim character with terrorism would be the same as connecting any protestan with the KKK. There are extremists in every religion and our stupidity is starting to get noticed. We are seen around the world as know-it-alls that know nothing and in significant way it is true. I stick by my belief that religion is tearing society apart and shoud probably not exist, but since it does it is crucial to NOT TAKE IT SERIOUSLY. We are all part of the same community here in america and that community is based on acceptance. Our differences shouldn’t make a difference, and anyone who connects muslims with terrorists is not only ignorant, but dangerous.

  • Danny Leibowitz

    I think that the stupidity present in America today is surprising. It is absurd to think of muslims as so different from us, because they worship the same god and most of the same prophets as Jews and Christians. They celebrate the life of Christ, Moses, Abraham and many other shared prophets. To connect this muslim character with terrorism would be the same as connecting any protestan with the KKK. There are extremists in every religion and our stupidity is starting to get noticed. We are seen around the world as know-it-alls that know nothing and in significant way it is true. I stick by my belief that religion is tearing society apart and shoud probably not exist, but since it does it is crucial to NOT TAKE IT SERIOUSLY. We are all part of the same community here in america and that community is based on acceptance. Our differences shouldn’t make a difference, and anyone who connects muslims with terrorists is not only ignorant, but dangerous.

  • Danny Leibowitz

    I think that the stupidity present in America today is surprising. It is absurd to think of muslims as so different from us, because they worship the same god and most of the same prophets as Jews and Christians. They celebrate the life of Christ, Moses, Abraham and many other shared prophets. To connect this muslim character with terrorism would be the same as connecting any protestan with the KKK. There are extremists in every religion and our stupidity is starting to get noticed. We are seen around the world as know-it-alls that know nothing and in significant way it is true. I stick by my belief that religion is tearing society apart and shoud probably not exist, but since it does it is crucial to NOT TAKE IT SERIOUSLY. We are all part of the same community here in america and that community is based on acceptance. Our differences shouldn’t make a difference, and anyone who connects muslims with terrorists is not only ignorant, but dangerous.

  • Danny Leibowitz

    I think that the stupidity present in America today is surprising. It is absurd to think of muslims as so different from us, because they worship the same god and most of the same prophets as Jews and Christians. They celebrate the life of Christ, Moses, Abraham and many other shared prophets. To connect this muslim character with terrorism would be the same as connecting any protestan with the KKK. There are extremists in every religion and our stupidity is starting to get noticed. We are seen around the world as know-it-alls that know nothing and in significant way it is true. I stick by my belief that religion is tearing society apart and shoud probably not exist, but since it does it is crucial to NOT TAKE IT SERIOUSLY. We are all part of the same community here in america and that community is based on acceptance. Our differences shouldn’t make a difference, and anyone who connects muslims with terrorists is not only ignorant, but dangerous.

  • AJ

    “DG:There are intolerant Muslims, and there are intolerant Christians. I believe that liberal Muslims and liberal Christians have more in common with each other than with the fundamentalist versions of their own faiths. The fundamentalists make a loud noise, what we need is for the liberals on both sides to come together and make a louder noise. Hello? Are you out there?”I completely agree with this assessment. I have many Muslim friends who treat me like family and I have also met their orthodox family members who made me very uncomfortable with their religious views. The problem is not religion in particular but fundamentalists, and you see fundamentalists in 3 of the 4 major faiths in the world – Islam, Christianity and Hinduism.I work at a manufacturing plant here in suburban Columbus and have come across many a worker who has asked me to accept Christ in my life. I politely told them that I am a Hindu and yet they would keep going on. My point is, that I can respect their beliefs, accept their actions as having good faith, but do not like being proselytized to by any body else, esp since I am an agnostic.I do believe in a country’s prerogative to choose who they want to allow to assimilate in their culture. Norway only allows those people to immigrate who are not offended by images of same-sex couples or PDA’s as it is a part of their culture. America should also have this right to reject immigrants who, for cultural or religious reasons, cannot accept the societal norms in her cities…

  • chris

    Victoria Says”ARIF- are you DAFT????Aliens in America is full of zoom-in t*t shots and sexual innuendo. Arif is correct. I’m sure Muslems will watch Aliens in America but- this TV show will corrupt many more Muslems than it converts Americans. No one I know would want to watch it.”STEVE MORRIS- i really dislike that term “moderate muslim”"I agree. There are Muslems and ex-Muslems. Victoria has shown in her posts that she dislikes America and is an avid Muslem. She seems to think being born in American is a free pass. She’s apparently never heard of Islamotraitors like Adam Gadahn or John Walker Lindh.

  • D.Sarkar

    Problem with Muslims in general and specially Pakistani Muslims-is they never accept their mistakes, and never accepted or took responsibility of the consequences of their wrong doings.

  • Fear-N-Loathing

    Horsesh**! This show is rubbish with crap acting, and a crap plot. Take your propoganda elsewhere scumbag. They are the aliens, and 95% of this country is at odds with Muslims. Its not the fact that religion is what divides us, its the fact that their religion preaches, condones, and encourages the executions of innocent peoples, and because of those beliefs–which is everything we don’t stand for–we have said no thank you Muslims, we do not need you as friends. Muhammed was like David Koresh.

  • rlong

    It is ironic that members of the Islamic tradition seek tolerance here in America while they do little to influence the intolerance of Islam as it is practiced elsewhere. I will respectfully demonstrate tolerance for any Muslim practicing his/her faith peacefully in this country. However, I cannot turn away from the fact that Islam is, as it demonstrates itself elsewhere to be, a religion highly intolerant. As you sow intolerance, so shall you reap. As a Muslim, you certainly have nothing to fear from your own religion’s intolerance and probably have a difficult time perceiving it as such. However, for me, I have everything to fear because it is an egregious violation of human rights and dignity.

  • rlong

    It is ironic that members of the Islamic tradition seek tolerance here in America while they do little to influence the intolerance of Islam as it is practiced elsewhere. I will respectfully demonstrate tolerance for any Muslim practicing his/her faith peacefully in this country. However, I cannot turn away from the fact that Islam is, as it demonstrates itself elsewhere to be, a religion highly intolerant. As you sow intolerance, so shall you reap. As a Muslim, you certainly have nothing to fear from your own religion’s intolerance and probably have a difficult time perceiving it as such. However, for me, I have everything to fear because it is an egregious violation of human rights and dignity.

  • rlong

    It is ironic that members of the Islamic tradition seek tolerance here in America while they do little to influence the intolerance of Islam as it is practiced elsewhere. I will respectfully demonstrate tolerance for any Muslim practicing his/her faith peacefully in this country. However, I cannot turn away from the fact that Islam is, as it demonstrates itself elsewhere to be, a religion highly intolerant. As you sow intolerance, so shall you reap. As a Muslim, you certainly have nothing to fear from your own religion’s intolerance and probably have a difficult time perceiving it as such. However, for me, I have everything to fear because it is an egregious violation of human rights and dignity.

  • DG

    There are intolerant Muslims, and there are intolerant Christians. I believe that liberal Muslims and liberal Christians have more in common with each other than with the fundamentalist versions of their own faiths. The fundamentalists make a loud noise, what we need is for the liberals on both sides to come together and make a louder noise. Hello? Are you out there?

  • Kenneth B Nurmberg

    VictoriaEverywhere in the world,Islam is a pain in the butt.

  • selah

    My friends-Do not believe every spirit -but test the spirits to see if they are True -because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

  • selah

    Here to celebrate the International Day of Quds?Readers who are unfamiliar with Quds -please run a short googlenews and educate yourself.

  • Ibrahim Mahfouz

    Muslims, especially the ones from the Middle East, are finding it difficult to assimilate, even before the events of 9-11. This is mainly due to their mindset. Theirs is a tribalistic world view that denigrates the “other” especially if that other is an infidel, as they view non- Muslims.The good news is that more and more of those who live in the West are beginnig to show some flexibility in their interaction with the host culture.

  • Anonymous

    Oooh..Shlomo..you deceitful liar. You’ve been outed!Hey!Have yourself a hate-filled little Quds Day!

  • Arif

    Sholmo,It was the Jews who established the 10 commandments, Christians later revisited Jewish teachings and brought about some of their own. Marriage was still between one adult man and one adult woman exceptions were there. All killing, rape, looting, highway robbery, enslaving woman, illicit sexual encounters were all against the original Jewish 10 commandments. Then came a man named Mohammed and anointed himself prophet. His life was spent fighting, killing, raping, enslaving, warring, looting, marrying and married a child. Also, he spent 23 or so years visiting a CAVE to get revelations from a Judaeo-Christian character. His Allah never talked to him directly but through this borrowed Jewish/Christian angel. Because of those cave hallucinations of this war lord we have today a highly volatile people called Muslims. What good is it for you to tell us how many followers you have or who they are when Islam’s founder and his text as I have described above are very flawed?

  • Shlomo

    Besides the Talmud being a book promoting hate towards non-Jews, it also promotes violence and self torment on the Jews as well;Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell.Lovely Talmud!follow מַחֲמַד !!!

  • Shlomo

    A Jewish man is obligated to say the following prayer every day: Thank you God for not making me a Gentile, a woman or a slave. Shabbath 86a-86b.Lovely Talmud!

  • Shlomo

    Insults Against Mary the Jew, Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus’ mother was a who*e: “She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters.” Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b it is stated that in the “uncensored” text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, “Mary the hairdresser,” had s*x with many men.

  • Shlomo

    Gittin 69a . To heal his flesh a Jew should take dust that lies within the shadow of an outdoor toilet, mix it with honey and eat it.Lovely Talmud!

  • Shlomo

    Reverend Bosworth Smith in ‘Muhammad and Muhammadanism,’ London, 1874. “Head of the State as well as the Church, he was Caesar and Pope in one; but he was Pope without the Pope’s pretensions, and Caesar without the legions of Caesar, without a standing army, without a bodyguard, without a police force, without a fixed revenue. If ever a man ruled by a right divine, it was Muhammad, for he had all the powers without their supports. He cared not for the dressings of power. The simplicity of his private life was in keeping with his public life.” “In Mohammadanism every thing is different here. Instead of the shadowy and the mysterious, we have history….We know of the external history of Muhammad….while for his internal history after his mission had been proclaimed, we have a book absolutely unique in its origin, in its preservation….on the Substantial authority of which no one has ever been able to cast a serious doubt.”Edward Montet, ‘La Propagande Chretienne et ses Adversaries Musulmans,’ Paris 1890. (Also in T.W. Arnold in ‘The Preaching of Islam,’ London 1913.) “Islam is a religion that is essentially rationalistic in the widest sense of this term considered etymologically and historically….the teachings of the Prophet, the Qur’an has invariably kept its place as the fundamental starting point, and the dogma of unity of God has always been proclaimed therein with a grandeur a majesty, an invariable purity and with a note of sure conviction, which it is hard to find surpassed outside the pale of Islam….A creed so precise, so stripped of all theological complexities and consequently so accessible to the ordinary understanding might be expected to possess and does indeed possess a marvelous power of winning its way into the consciences of men.”Dr. Gustav Weil in ‘History of the Islamic Peoples’ Muhammad was a shining example to his people. His character was pure and stainless. His house, his dress, his food – they were characterized by a rare simplicity. So unpretentious was he that he would receive from his companions no special mark of reverence, nor would he accept any service from his slave which he could do for himself. He was accessible to all and at all times. He visited the sick and was full of sympathy for all. Unlimited was his benevolence and generosity as also was his anxious care for the welfare of the community.Alphonse de LaMartaine in ‘Historie de la Turquie,’ Paris, 1854. “Never has a man set for himself, voluntarily or involuntarily, a more sublime aim, since this aim was superhuman; to subvert superstitions which had been imposed between man and his Creator, to render God unto man and man unto God; to restore the rational and sacred idea of divinity amidst the chaos of the material and disfigured gods of idolatry, then existing. Never has a man undertaken a work so far beyond human power with so feeble means, for he (Muhammad) had in the conception as well as in the execution of such a great design, no other instrument than himself and no other aid except a handful of men living in a corner of the desert. Finally, never has a man accomplished such a huge and lasting revolution in the world, because in less than two centuries after its appearance, Islam, in faith and in arms, reigned over the whole of Arabia, and conquered, in God’s name, Persia Khorasan, Transoxania, Western India, Syria, Egypt, Abyssinia, all the known continent of Northern Africa, numerous islands of the Mediterranean Sea, Spain, and part of Gaul. “If greatness of purpose, smallness of means, and astonishing results are the three criteria of a human genius, who could dare compare any great man in history with Muhammad? The most famous men created arms, laws, and empires only. They founded, if anything at all, no more than material powers which often crumbled away before their eyes. This man moved not only armies, legislations, empires, peoples, dynasties, but millions of men in one-third of the then inhabited world; and more than that, he moved the altars, the gods, the religions, the ideas, the beliefs and the souls. “On the basis of a Book, every letter which has become law, he created a spiritual nationality which blend together peoples of every tongue and race. He has left the indelible characteristic of this Muslim nationality the hatred of false gods and the passion for the One and Immaterial God. This avenging patriotism against the profanation of Heaven formed the virtue of the followers of Muhammad; the conquest of one-third the earth to the dogma was his miracle; or rather it was not the miracle of man but that of reason. “The idea of the unity of God, proclaimed amidst the exhaustion of the fabulous theogonies, was in itself such a miracle that upon it’s utterance from his lips it destroyed all the ancient temples of idols and set on fire one-third of the world. His life, his meditations, his heroic revelings against the superstitions of his country, and his boldness in defying the furies of idolatry, his firmness in enduring them for fifteen years in Mecca, his acceptance of the role of public scorn and almost of being a victim of his fellow countrymen: all these and finally, his flight his incessant preaching, his wars against odds, his faith in his success and his superhuman security in misfortune, his forbearance in victory, his ambition, which was entirely devoted to one idea and in no manner striving for an empire; his endless prayers, his mystic conversations with God, his death and his triumph after death; all these attest not to an imposture but to a firm conviction which gave him the power to restore a dogma. This dogma was twofold the unity of God and the immateriality of God: the former telling what God is, the latter telling what God is not; the one overthrowing false gods with the sword, the other starting an idea with words. “Philosopher, Orator, Apostle, Legislator, Conqueror of Ideas, Restorer of Rational beliefs…. The founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire that is Muhammad. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than he?”Mahatma Gandhi, statement published in ‘Young India,’1924. I wanted to know the best of the life of one who holds today an undisputed sway over the hearts of millions of mankind…. I became more than ever convinced that it was not the sword that won a place for Islam in those days in the scheme of life. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the Prophet the scrupulous regard for pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and in his own mission. These and not the sword carried everything before them and surmounted every obstacle. When I closed the second volume (of the Prophet’s biography), I was sorry there was not more for me to read of that great life.Sir George Bernard Shaw in ‘The Genuine Islam,’ Vol. 1, No. 8, 1936. “If any religion had the chance of ruling over England, nay Europe within the next hundred years, it could be Islam.” “I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him – the wonderful man and in my opinion for from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Savior of Humanity.” “I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today.

  • dont be a hypocrite

    my question has to do with your accreditations summary. You are on the National Committee of the Aga Khan Foundation? Why would you represent a man who proclaims he is God incarnated to millions of people? Why you take funds or a prestigious title from a man who several million people bow down to, and who has created a prayer for them that includes seeking help from him? Why would you associate yourself with a man who has french diplomatic status (why??), british, and swiss citizenship and a mass of brown people bowing to him? And youre worried about a sitcom???? Youve played right into the powers that have perpetuated this.

  • Anonymous

    thanks alot -shlomo-in your short posts, you have destroyed ebrahim patel’s disiplined efforts to convince wapo readers that islam is the religion of peace and love. well, its international quds day and your mosque’s rantings of hate inspired you.ebrahim patel- the truth is out and i feel sad for you..

  • Anonymous

    Hint:You mark yourself as a liar and cheat when you post under different names but make the same spelling errors in all your posts. Ugh.

  • Concerned The Christian Now Liberated

    Shlomo,As I figured, you have no answer for the historical facts.And Muslims commit adultery by having multiple wives.And Muslims don’t drink alcohol? So what. A glass of red wine/day is good for the heart. And Muslims don’t gamble? Hmmm, but they do have some of the best race horses and you can bet they bet on them.And there are one billion plus Muslims in the world because of “sword-forced” conversion and forced procreation. Considering the contemporary Islamic truth/death squads and “koranic” rules, things have not changed. Give freedom to the Muslim masses trapped under Islamic tyranny and watch what happens. Any idea how many Muslims have access to this discussion?? Not many!!!!!And if you want to heal yourself from all this Islamic brainwashing follow the following steps:”30 qualities are connected to the heart”"1. Belief in Allah”No problem but “aka as God, Yahweh, Zeus, Jehovah, Mother Nature, etc.” should be added to your beliefs.”2. To believe that everything other than Allah was non-existent. Thereafter, Allah Most High created these things and subsequently they came into existence.”Not really!!!! Evolution and the Big Bang cannot be ignored and the “akas” for Allah should be included if you are going to go with creation theory.”3. To believe in the existence of angels.”A major item to delete. Angels/devils are the mythical creations of ancient civilizations, e.g. Hittites, to explain/define natural events, contacts with their gods, big birds, sudden winds, protectors during the dark nights, etc. No “pretty/ugly wingy thingies” ever visited or talked to Mohammed, Jesus, Mary or Joseph or Joe Smith. Today we would classify angels as fairies and “tinker bells”. Modern devils are classified as the demons of the demented. “4. To believe that all the heavenly books that were sent to the different prophets are true. However, apart from the Quran, all other books are not valid anymore.”Another major item to delete. There are no books written in Heaven just as there are no angels to write/publish/distribute them. The Koran, OT, NT etc. are simply books written by humans for humans. Prophets were invented by ancient scribes typically to keep the uneducated masses in line. Today we call them fortune tellers.Prophecies are also invalidated by the natural/God/Allah gifts of Free Will and Future.”5. To believe that all the prophets are true. However, we are commanded to follow the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) alone.”Mohammed spent thirty days fasting in a hot cave before his first contact with Allah aka God etc. via a “pretty wingy talking flying fictional thingy”. Common sense demands a deletion of #5. #5 is also the major source of Islamic violence i.e. turning Mohammed’s “fast, hunger-driven” hallucinations into horrible reality for unbelievers.

  • Anonymous

    ccnl- let the anti-semite rage on. he cannot contain his soul and must testify to his hatred. his heart speaks.

  • chris

    “could you copy and paste exactly what it is that i said that leads you to believe that i am anti-american?”Although your rambling posts litter these boards, I don’t have time to cut and paste- I work.Please share again your sentiments/sympathies for HAMAS.

  • Jumbo JUTT

    You are doing what your religion taught for centuries but devils seldom flourish. Your neighbours were certainly not responsible when your sister eloped with a South Asian Muslim and converted to Islam. As you know Islam is spreading and casting its deep influences, despite lunatic propaganda.

  • Anonymous

    Hello World!

  • Sami Qureshi

    Concerned the Christian….

  • Anonymous

    Ethics and morality change so please do not judge Muhamamd by today’s standars. That is what Muslims tell us when we point out the sexual relations the prophet had with children when he was in his late fifties.For a self-proclaimed prophet to continue doing the same immoral acts and in fact add many more immoral rules of his own by calling it ‘revelation’, is thoroughly shameful. Why did he not get a revelation for not having sex with children? He had a chance to change this world for the better, instead like all corrupt leaders, he did exactly the opposite.

  • Ted Baines

    Sami QureshiMuhamamd recomemnded the beating of wives. Is this part of your universal code for all humankind?

  • Dr Dave

    By all means let us welcome Muslim culture to the US. Let us all adopt Shariah, gown our women in head to toe garments, separate the boys from the girls in schools, or better yet not send the girls to school. Lets all become good muslims and submit to the teaching of the man who said you can kill those who don’t believe your religion and whose writings inspire people to kill each other including women and children. Sounds like the making of a great spin off for this sitcom.

  • Shlomo

    Dear Humans, Can you show me the word Judaism in the OT?Why follow a religion whose name is absent from its own holly text?! There is only one true religion: Islam.Just follow the Holly Bible and it will show you the way.Here is my proof:See Verse 16 in Ch 5 of Song of Songs at this locationLook at the Hebrew text. You will see the Name Mohammad (מַחֲמַדִּים) there! Just remove the “i” (י) and “m” (ם) used for making a noun plural.follow מַחֲמַד !!!

  • victoria

    i asasume youre talking to me- chris- im just illustrating how people follow the herd when they dont even know what they’re attacking. could you copy and paste exactly what it is that i said that leads you to believe that i am anti-american? was it my description of thanksgiving? or that i found a tv show cute? or maybe it was chastising the one callin ghim or herself buddhist for being racist? as stated by the previous poster- it is getting patently ridiculous- so chris youlive in a pluralistic society- in doing fine here

  • selah

    There are six things the LORD hates. Indeed: seven are an abomination to Him.–a proud spirit with haughty eyes–a lying tonque–hands that shed innocent blood–a heart that devises wicked thoughts and plans–feet that are swift in running to evil–a false witness who breathes out lies under oath–he who sows discord among his own brothers

  • Ted Baines

    Mr Eboo Patel, Victoria, Sami Qureshi and otehr Muslims who are part of this blog agree that1) banning non-Muslims from Mecca and Medina is wrong and discrimnatory? That they should be allowed to enter Mecca and Medina?2)non-Muslims should be allowed to worship in public anywhere in Muslim countries?3) non-Muslims should be allowed to build their places of worship anywhere in Muslim countries just as Muslims are allowed to build mosques in non-Muslim countries and that should include Mecca and Medina?4) That non-Muslims should be allowed to preach their faith to Muslims so that Muslims have a free choice of leaving Islam?Are Muslims willing to openly condemn Saudi Arabia for practicing this Islamic apartheid?

  • Ted Baines

    Sami QPlease read the Koran, hadiths and Sirat Rasulallah.Muhammad, thru his mouthpiece, the Arabic god Allah, did not give equal rights to women. Here are examples:1) Muhammad commanded men to beat their wives but not vice versa2) Muhammad gave women half the share of inheritance that their male siblings get, knowing fully well that millions of women are the sole breadwinners in the family. Muhammad was kept by Khadija until he fooled her into marrying him.3) Men can have four husbands at a time but women do not have simialr privileges.4) Men can have concubines but women cannot have lovers that they are not married to5) men can have sex with their slave girls. Women cannot have sex with their slave boys.6) Men can divorce their wives by simply uttering “talaaq” thrice. Women find it very difficult to divorce their husbands.

  • D.Sarkar

    Dear Mr. Eboo Patel,

  • Zakir

    in response to the questions below: #1-Mecca is the home of islam. It originated there, it was revealed there. Do you let anyone in your home that you dont want to come in? #2-im not sure about the public worship practices being banned but segregation and discriminatory practices arent limited to muslims or muslim countries. if you are from america, you know better than to start up a question about freedom of worship because christians throught history(especially the Dark Ages) are guilty of dominance in religion, and conversion by the sword ALL OVER THE WORLD. not just in any particular region or town. just because Christians now allow freedom of religion does not mean Muslims have to do the same.#3-The places of worship. mecca is sacred to them, and they have enough problems without other religions trying to take over their Worship places. and i know that there are many churches and synagogs in the surrounding areas. why do non-muslims wanna go there anyway? that land means nothing to them. #4-Answered in response #3. and why cant people let them be? why do people want to go preach to the muslims? oh, Right! Islam is a terrible religion, Right? Islam is perfect. People are not. Islam is the only religion that teaches the worship of 1 God and associate no partners with Him. Other religion call their followers to worship their respective prophets and idols. It doesn’t make sense to go from worship of 1 God to worship of many gods or other than the 1 True God. But if they want to, Who is to stop them? Peace

  • Anonymous

    Mr. Ted Baines,

  • Zakir

    Allah has commanded us through Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) that in Muslim countries only Islam is allowed. When the USA becomes more than 50% Muslim and it will happen soon, all other religions will be discouraged.

  • Pablo

    I guess it would get rave reviews considering it tows the politically correct line that Islam is a religion of peace. While it is true that Islam rejects many of the sinful practices that our post Christian culture now embraces it is also true that the Qur’an commands jihad on all non-believers. The PC police are lulling the whole nation to sleep with shows like Aliens in America. This siycom gives an incomplete picture of what Islam is really about. Go to Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Indonesia, etc. and say publicly that you do not believe that Muhammad was a prophet or preach publicly that Jesus is the Son of God who died on the cross and arose from the dead and then you will see what Islam is all about when your head is rolling down the street having being severed from your infidel body. Stop feeding us this PC version of Islam it is deceptive and very dangerous for our country.

  • Anonymous

    My apologies for posting anonymously. It is for personal security.I want to introduce Muslims for Jesus, a community of ex-Muslims who have accepted Jesus as their Lord, God and Saviour. We support and help Muslims who wish to leave Islam and to become Christians. We are active in the western countries including the USA and Canad and in Western Europe, countries with large Muslim populations.We have to be very careful when we operate in Muslim countries because Islamic laws mandate death for apostates. However, we are beginning to have success. Saudi Arabia is different because even wearing a Cross can get you in prison and the killing of apostates is carried out by the government. In other Muslim countries apostates are killed by ordinary Muslim citizens, we suspect with the covert support of the government.It will take time to build churches in Mecca because there will have to a change in the mindsets of Muslims. Please be patient. We have helped thousands of Muslims to accept the Lord and we hope the number will soon be millions.

  • Sami Qureshi

    Mr. Ted Baines

  • Pablo

    Zakir,You said,”Islam is the only religion that teaches the worship of 1 God and associate no partners with Him. Other religion call their followers to worship their respective prophets and idols. It doesn’t make sense to go from worship of 1 God to worship of many gods or other than the 1 True God. But if they want to, Who is to stop them? Peace”This is the exact reason that Islam is completely wrong about God. Gad has existed in all eternity as the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit. That is why when God made man, He said, “Let US make man in OUR own image” and “male and female He created them.” In other words Adam and Eve were created as two persons who were one reflecting the image of God. You see God did not have to create another person to experience love which is the natural conclusion of the Islamic view of God. God is love and love flows from His very nature. The Triune God has been in a perfect relationship of love for all eternity. I tell you this not to insult you but in love. My hope is that all Muslims would see the truth about Jesus believe and be saved. God bless!

  • jerry the mouse

    anon:bless you for your courage. yes. ex-muslims are growing in numbers. but be careful. -many must have 24/7/12 security or live in safe houses. we are very close to having secure cities/neighborhoods. numbers increase daily as more realise -there is a safe way out.the hatred of islam will be broken.

  • Anonymous

    It should be obvious to everybody. We entered Afghanistan in 2001 and Iraq in 2003 and we are still there and the violence continues. We liberated the people from the Taleban and Saddam, helped the people frame a Constitution and hold election and the people of these countries promptly formed an Islamic state. Not a secular democracy we have aimed for.The exact opposite happened in Germany and Japan. We destroyed the country, bombed civilians and six years lated both countries were secular democracies.Precisely because we targeted civilian areas, the people of Germany and Japan gave and surrendered or rather forced their rulers to surrender and then cooperated willingly in the formation of secular countries. We basically wrote their Constitutions for them and kept it free of God and religion.The Islamic terrorists know that our values of today prohibit targeting secular areas and that the fear of our civilian areas being bombed is what is making the American people oppose the war.I am not suggesting that we give up our higher values and kill civilians. However unless the Muslim citizens of Muslim countries are made to suffer hardships they will not force their rulers, the Taliban and Al Qaeda to give up terrorismThe surefire method of stopping terrorism is to stop completely the immigration of Muslims from a few select Muslim countries. When they see their chances of getting a good life in the West taken away from them the Muslims will rebel against their rulers and force them to secularize their countries.A ban on all Muslim immigration to the west ( USA, Canada and Western Europe) will benefit both the West and the Muslims.It will benefit the West because by banning the immigration of Muslims, the root cause of terroristic acts inside the West will have been eliminated for the most part. All terror acts in West are committed and will be committed by Muslim immigrants and their descendants. By banning Muslims the West will no longer have to spend trillions in sending armies into Muslim countries to fight the Muslim terrorists and the regimes that provide aid to the terrorists. Almost all major terror acts have had their genesis in Pakistan with substantial aid from saudi Arabia. Instead the West will need to spend a very small amount keeping guard against Muslims in the West. Sending western armies into Muslim countries has been a failed measure for the simple reason that the general Muslim population supports, actively and passively, Islamic terrorism. Had the Muslim population been against terrorism bin Laden would have been caught a long time ago.The ban will have to accompanied by giving financial aid to some of the poorer Muslim countries with the proviso that the aid be used to develop secular education in the Muslim countries. An impoverished Muslim country like Bangladesh or like Pakistan will welcome $10 billion annually because it will provide much needed foreign exchange and it will raise the standards of education in these countries if the aid is properly used.By not allowing Muslims to migrate to the West, the Muslims in those countries will be forced to fight for reform of both Islam and of the political systems in the countries. At present it is too easy for the Muslims. At the slightest sign of oppression millions of Muslims flee to West into the arms of eager western liberals because for the latter their own reputation as do-gooders is more important than the safety and security of the West. Western Europe fought against the repression by the Christian church because there was no means of escape. Had the USA been a refuge for immigrants in the 16th and 17th centuries, the Christian church would not have reformed because the oppressed people of Europe would have fled to America. With their backs against the wall Europeans forced the church and the clergy to reform Christianity.A ban on Muslim immigration need not apply to all Muslim countries, at least in the beginning. Some countries such as Turkey would be exempt because very few Turks have indulged in terroristic activities. Malaysia would be another example. However stricter standards should apply for allowing immigrants from even these countries.The following countries would be however the prime targets because the level of terroristic activity in their population has been very high:Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Morocco, Egypt, Sudan, Yemen, Algeria, Iran, Iraq, Syria.India, which has a population of nearly 200 million, would also be subject to stricter standards. The Muslims of India have increasingly participated in terroristic activities, most recently in Australia and Britain. A ban on Muslims from India would also be appropriate.

  • alkanlevent @ washingtonpost.com

    ALIEN is who loves Ali of Muhammed. Ali is Husband of Muhammed’s Daughter Fatima. Ali is Son of Muhammed’s Uncle. Ali is FAther of Muhammed’s Grandsons. Ali is lion. Ali is Deer. Ali is Dove. Ali is the door to Science and Wisdom. 11/9 of World Trade Towers in New York, where Boeing planes crashed into, is a matter of Churchill MArlborough FAmily Trade Union. the reader must differentiate Muhammed, Ali, Fatima and his grandsons from Emevi Caliphates, that had tortured 12 generations of grandsons of Beloved Muhammed.Muhammed is known with Buddha, in spiritual circles. we shall heal the church. this is a must. “cons tant in police” we shall study much so much that we shall be in the civilization, like Pinoccio and all had been Children with the Blue Fairy. cons: to study, tant: much so much that, police: city, civilization. “con st ant in police” “with st anthony in the city”, saint of passengers, and lost ships. donkeys can swim too : )thymuse gland is in the upper chest. it is “pear, honey, wine, abihayat, bengisu, holy grail, sweet breads”, center of health and immune system, turquoise colur. like the honey of the pine. like the pear of the tree.this thymuse gland is in Yoga the intsrument of enlightenment. with reflexology, i call it re-flexology, science and wisdom of movement without breaking, spirituality comes together to get Her language, language of Grace and Love and Faith.father is with faither, to her. son is with the sun. do you know chrysanthemum, golden flower? yes it is for Jesus Cheerist.i have given you what i have. this is ZEKAT. i have added what is in my heart and wisdom. ZEKA-T.for NAMAZ, i can say NAMASTE, the greeting. and for Namaz, i can say “there is least of vapour around, lets have some, NEM AZ”, here vapour is for light around us. have a nice day, dear author, have a nice day.

  • jati hoon

    Who represents the muslim or musalman religion. a pakistani muslim or a bangladeshi, or a indonesian, indian, african or last of all but not the least arabian muslim. Ofcourse do not forget the most pious of all, OSAMA and his cohorts. The true believers.Religion or faith is based on truth and dignity of all living things…..follow that and you got the true religion and you will meet your very own “GOD” Allah, Jesus, Om, Buddha so on and so forth.

  • alkanlevent @ washingtonpost

    yoga is unity too. you know MArie Anthoniette, french queen, with “you have no bread? have sweet bread then”thymuse gland is sweet bread. with it, the body is sweet and breathful. body is referred as bread. Archangel Raphael is known with sweet, breath and inspiration.Mr Bush had offered a bill that there is divine wisdom on earth in the universe to create, which was subject to secularism in the Senate. it is Andreas IDRIS of wisdom, grandfather of Noah, after Adam, i had met http://www.enoughproject.org on the internet,

  • Anonymous

    Muslims doing the hajj is akin to a white person who continues to be a member of a private club that knowingly discriminates against people of color and does not allow them to be members. Muhammad, through his mouthpiece Allah, forbade entry by non-Muslims into Mecca and this ban is an integral part of Islam. Any Muslim who does the hajj is condoning this evil apartheid.A decent Muslim will, as a first, condemn this apartheid and then boycott the hajj until the discrimination stops.2 million Muslims visit the kaaba every year and spend about 5000 dollars each, that is a total of 10 billion. This money would be better spent on education as there very few good educational facilities in the Muslim world. That is why Muslims risk their lives to come to the west. I know personally a devout Muslim, rabid hater of Jews and Americans, who gave up a propserous car dealership in Kuwait and came here for the purpose of giving his children a good education which he said is non existent in his native Pakistan, the rich Middle East and just about any other Muslim country.By doing the hajj you are condoning the Islamic apartheid in Saudi Arabia. This apartheid was put in place by prophet Muhammad who say ” Two deens should not exist in Muslim lands.”I would have had no problems with this shameful Islamic apartheid if Muslims did not migrate to en masse to the west and demand freedom of religion.Finally if your Arabic god Allah will not be pleased if the 10 billion is spent on eductaion instead of the wasteful pagan pilgrimage, then you should ask yourself:Is this Arabic god Allah worth worshipping?

  • Jaybob

    Wow, the discussion here is like a long advertisement for atheism! But I guess these unmoderated comment boards serve a purpose if they keep the extreme nuts on both sides sitting at their computers rather than out in the world doing real harm…

  • sami qureshi

    Mr. Ted Baines,

  • Concerned The Christian Now Liberated

    A few new book titles:1. Hallucinogens and Hallucinations, The Basis of Islam.2. Fermented Grapes, the Basis of OT and NT Myths and Embellishments.

  • JALEBI

    concerned christian…..

  • Anonymous

    Just like Zakir said as soon as Islam is over 50% in the USA there will be no other choice for a religion except Islam. Then we will see Islam’s true colors in the USA. If you want to see what it will be like now just look at the intolerance of the Muslim world now. They murdered another Christian today in Gaza.

  • Anonymous

    All Islam defenders who are non-Muslims note Zakir’s words. They are a clear refection of the true sentiments of all true Qur’an believing Muslims.”Allah has commanded us through Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) that in Muslim countries only Islam is allowed. When the USA becomes more than 50% Muslim and it will happen soon, all other religions will be discouraged.”Then US media is guilty of not researching the Qur’an, the haddith, the history of Islam and then telling us the truth about Islam. Instead they dedicate whole TV programs and newspaper articles to defending Islam day in and day out. The Muslims know this so they use the PC media for the advancement of their agenda. The media attacks Christians asserting that Christians want to take over the nation but that is not the truth. They real culprits they protect and they attack American Christians who love their country.

  • Bukhari

    True Islam in action.Taliban’ writ in Haryana villageSMS NEWS to 58888 for latest updatesIt’s not because they don’t have the financial wherewithal to do so; it’s because the 5,000-strong Muslim population of the village is under the near-total sway of retrograde maulvis whose edicts have barred the folk from any form of recreation.With just one Hindu Dalit family in Mundogari, the village has more or less been reduced to a Talibanised relic. It’s not the rule of law that enshrines personal freedoms that prevails here; it’s the fatwas from maulvis, who interpret the Koran according to their blinkered vision, that calls the shots, preventing people from exerting their right to freedom in a country that celebrated its 60th year of independence in August this year.The only connection of villagers — who don’t travel out — with the outside world is the radio on which the only programme they are allowed to listen to is the news.Says Raj Singh Chaudhary, a Karnal-based social worker: “When one family bought a TV set, it was severely ostracised.” What adds to the problem, he says, is the literacy rate at an abysmal 3%, with just one person reaching college. And since no one is even 10th pass, there’s not a single person in the village employed with the government.Dilshad Ali, 20, would be seen as a villain in this village if his secret was out. For he has defied the maulvis’ fatwa and took admission in BA second year. Asked whether he follows any other proclamation, he says: “I have to paste photographs on the admission form, have to read newspapers and I watch TV regularly whenever I am outside the village.” How does he do all this? “I have to keep these things a secret,” he says.Eighteen year old Shadaqat Ali, who owns an STD/PCO outlet, says, Koran doesn’t allow us to watch TV and listen to music in any form. On being asked who informed him about it, he says: “Maulvis have informed the entire village time and again and about TV’s ill-effects.”Another woman, who refuses to be named, says: “The women folk aren’t allowed to come out of their house. Many haven’t travelled more than 25 km ever in their lives.”"My first outing as a child was to a hospital and ever since I have mostly gone to hospitals as do other women, most of whom are married at age 14-15.”Maulana Ajmal Khan, the imam at Sector 20 Masjid, Chandigarh, says: “If you want a photograph clicked for the passport, or on the admission form, you can have it, since it’s out of necessity. But you can’t have it hanging on the wall.” Islam also does not allow singing and dancing or any such form of entertainment, he adds.

  • anonymous

    “When we treat our neighbors and guests of a different faith as strangers, we become the aliens in America.”Mr. Patel, what a strange and misleading statement this is. The reality is this, no other country in the world is more accepting of people from other parts of the world. In this country anyone can come and get work, worship as they like and live as they will, so long as they don’t harm others and follow our laws. We are a very accepting culture. It is the muslims who don’t consider themselves American and don’t want to assimilate. It is they who want America and it’s people to bend to their religious beliefs. And time and again it is muslims who are committing violence around the world and in this country. So I refuse to apologize for the Americans in this country who don’t want to accept that yoke of dhimmitude and treat muslims with suspicion. All in all, I’d say they’re treated pretty well, consider what would happen to a Christian American (for example) if they were to go to a muslim country and behave, well, American…and then on top of that start demanding the people of that country change their customs and behavior. Do you think they’d still have their heads after a day?

  • sursum

    Can’t we all get along? For those close to the Canadian border, try to catch a CBC series called “Little Mosque on the Prarie” wherein the foibles of a staid Christian town in Saskatechewan are shown, as it tries to accomodate/adjust to the newness of an Imam coming to town and in turn how the tiny Muslim community see Canadians. In essence it is similar to past series where the new immigrant runs smack into the new world. I can think of Jewish, Irish, Italian, Scandanavian, etc., etc. forerunners of the same story line. Raised a Catholic, I call recall being exposed to non-Catholic tripe from teachers who had a lot of terrible things about non-Catholics. Dogma does that to you

  • sursum

    Can’t we all get along? For those close to the Canadian border, try to catch a CBC series called “Little Mosque on the Prarie” wherein the foibles of a staid Christian town in Saskatechewan are shown, as it tries to accomodate/adjust to the newness of an Imam coming to town and in turn how the tiny Muslim community see Canadians. In essence it is similar to past series where the new immigrant runs smack into the new world. I can think of Jewish, Irish, Italian, Scandanavian, etc., etc. forerunners of the same story line. Raised a Catholic, I call recall being exposed to non-Catholic tripe from teachers who had a lot of terrible things about non-Catholics. Dogma does that to you

  • Anonymous

    sursum,All those other peoples did not blow up the twin towers. All those other peoples did not try to overthrow our government for Islam.

  • EP THorn

    to: Anonymous who doesn’t know much about history…From what dark, warm place do you pull the idea that citizens “forced” the Japanese surrender in 1945? Even Germany didn’t surrender until it was being overrun by allied ground forces. If you pick up a history book maybe you would be disabused of the notion that such a complicated problem could have a simple solution like “hey… why don’t we just keep all the muslims out of the country?”

  • whatever

    Guess what – you get classified as an “Alien” when your beliefs undermine the prevailing American culture (example: women’s rights, fair wages) and you don’t even like American culture or Americans. How would a female Christian American be treated in a muslim country? By the way – it is crap that so many foreigners come here and try to exploit our social security system. Become American and then move back to the homeland – taking the social security with you.

  • Anonymous

    Adultery and womanisationBefore criticising Islam and other religions, it is adviced that the western christians to look first underneath the “womenisation and immoral culture of alcoholism” they have created in their society.

  • Anonymous

    Anonymous,”Peace and humanity” Is that what we see around the murderous Muslim world. Wake up!

  • BBCReader

    In all fairness, I grew up in Washington, DC with many Muslim school friends and they could be pretty evenly split between “I hate the religion my parents are making me learn about because it’s backward, treats women badly, encourages violence through Jihad, and the radicals embarrass me on the news every night” and the kids who bought into it hook line and sinker and would advocate destroying Israel, suggesting women shouldn’t attend high school, or in one famous situation, the kid who told our science teacher, “I don’t have to listen to you because you are an unmarried woman!” Oh, ok, makes perfect sense… in Biizarroland. This happened at Walt Whitman High School in Bethesda, MD in 1991.So if we have a negative view of Islam, sure, you can blame pop culture, but don’t forget that in our metropolitan area I was friends with Arab, Pakistani and Southeast Asian kids who hated Islam for the violence and bigotry written in the Quran. They were the kids returning from religious camps and classes hating Islam more and more. Then we also went to school with the violent bigots who loved Islam and kept telling us American culture wasn’t violent or bigoted enough and expressing admiration for the Nazis. Can I say that in High School I knew one single Muslim who didn’t either hate the terrorists in his religion or one single Muslim who wasn’t a sexist jerk? No, everyone I knew fell into one of those two categories.So, you know, live with what your religion and its followers have created as Muslim culture, don’t blame the US fer crying out loud!

  • BBCReader

    My question to Mr. Patel is, why in the world would you let your religion define who you are and how much has that mistake hurt you in your life? I think you know it’s hurt you a great deal and that’s why you wrote this piece for the Post. I think you’d agree that if you got the chip off your shoulder you’d be a much happier person and a better citizen. So how about it? How about going just one single year ignoring Islam and then after that year you can start again? I think you’d find as a scientific experiment that it would be a really positive action on your part instead of engulfing yourself in negativity as what comes across in your writing. I’m not asking for much, just one single year of your life? Are you too close-minded and bigoted to try it?

  • David

    As long as we’re talking about stereotypes, let’s talk about one that’s true: how one race controls 95 percent of the content, not including advertising, on Mainstream Television in America. I have 10 years experience in that disgusting field, and I’m not Jewish. But in Hollywood, there’s a term “above the line”, which means an editor or producer or executive, i.e. someone with some direct control over content. These jobs are almost completely held by Jews. The other jobs, which aren’t particularly Jewish, are called “below the line.” These are techies, engineers, receptionists and other nuts-and-bolts types who make the machine run, but who will never have any say in what gets “aired.” As an engineer, I was privy to some very inside conversations, and some of the most racist rants one could imagine. In the pre- 9/11 world, many if not most above-the-line types I met made no attempt to disguise their contempt for Gentiles, and GOD FORBID the subject of Muslims ever arose….. I could tell you some stories, from personal experience, that would make your stomach crawl. But I just had dinner, so I won’t.

  • nazir Ahmad Bhat

    the article of Mr.Patel is somewhat the basis of which ly with the political atmosphere in America coupled with some propoganda unfortunately made by jew brothern as against muslims.History bears wittness that the events which happened at europe during preeeceding century although; were cruel in nature yet; were never linked with the religion whatsoever.the ever worst crime on whole humanity as committed by hitler in shape of hollocasut was never linked either with germen nationality nor with the religion of hitler who incidentaly happened christain.similarily; the president true man ordering for throwing atom bomb on japan was never linked with the trueman;s religion.currently; when tens of thousands of muslims were at state level by bosnain army killed; it was never linked with the religion of belgrade.then; why any kind of act including 9/11 could be linked with the religion of islam istead viewing it at individual level as part of the event in the history.the world is somewhat silent and not doing or serving the just cause of justice.when russia invaded afganistan in 1979 killing thousands of innocent afgans where was term terrorism used then and against whom ?for the learned author i may humlby add that it is very difficult to stand by word equity and justice when personel interests are required to be served. thanks.

  • Alice

    The people on this board have some serious issues. The Muslim is your perennial ‘boogeyman’, I’m sure your bigotry isn’t just regulated to them, your heart probably constricts every time you see a black man, you see Mexicans everywhere in your mist. It’s too bad that your homogeneous America is dying, the demographics are fast changing and diversity is something your going to have to learn to stomach until you get home and purge yourself of the ‘others’.

  • r chisolm

    Gee alice maybe being told everyday we are at war with muslims around the world has something to do with it,doesnt take a genious to read or listen everywhere does it.

  • Anonymous

    Sheesh, David. You are a bringing bigoted back..

  • Anti islam

    I would rather read about “muslim Aliens out of America”.

  • Concerned The Christian Now Liberated

    Hmmm, Zakir noted the following: “Islam is perfect”.Not according to history and current events.A short synopsis for “newbie” eyes:Mohammed, an illiterate, warmongering, womanizing, hallucinating long-dead Arab had embellishing/hallucinating/plagiarizing scribal biographers who not only added “angels” and flying chariots to the koran but also a militaristic agenda to support the plundering and looting of the lands of non-believers. This agenda continues as shown by the conduct of the seven Muslim doctors in the UK, the 9/11 terrorists, the 24/7 Sunni suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the 24/7 Shiite suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the Islamic train bombers in the UK and Spain, the Bali crazies, the Kenya crazies, the Pakistani koranics, the Palestine suicide bombers/rocketeers, the Lebanese nutcases and the Filipino koranics. And who funds these acts of terror?The Islamic theocracy and terror state of Iran aka the Third Axis of Evil and also the “Wannabees” of Saudi Arabia.

  • Anonymous

    I am disgusted by the bashing of muslims on this thread. Even more disgusted that washingtonpost.com allows people to continue this bashing. Why don’t we ever see a similar thread on the jewish religion? Does anyone have the nerve?

  • Anonymous

    I am disgusted by the bashing of muslims on this thread. Even more disgusted that a prominent news source allows people to continue this bashing. Why don’t we ever see a similar thread on the jewish religion? Does anyone have the nerve?

  • Concerned The Christian Now Liberated

    Because the Jewish operating manual aka OT has basically been relegated to the myth pile.

  • Anonymous

    Muslims are alien. When I see a woman completely covered except for eyes walking behind her bearded husband with a scowl on his face as if he is on his way to up building, the couple does not look very native to me.

  • realist

    The US should treat Islam just like Communism is treated in the US: a dangerous ideology incompetible with freedom which shouldn’t be practiced by immigrants to the US –immigrants receiving US citizenship sign a declaration that they will never become communists or else they can loose their citizenship (and be deported, maybe?!).

  • DirtyHarry 44 Magnum

    Wait until the crazies (Muslim fanatics) get wind of this show. Then it will be–”Death to Aliens in America, Death to {insert anything or anyone you wish to})”……………

  • Mike

    Thank goodness the Post added Patel to their blog lineup. We need more blog posts about “how knee-jerk and narrow America has become since 9/11.” It seems that in order to get a regular gig on the “OnFaith” or “PostGloabl”, you must be:A) an athiestB) disdainful of AmericaC) BothIt is a shame that the Post staff limits discussion to those who share their own narrow views on faith and America.

  • Ciap

    We are not killing the Muslims like they are killing the Christians in Muslim countries.We do not force them to convert to our religion the way Muslims do.We allow them to practice their own faith unlike Muslim countries do.We dont cut the clitoris off the women the way some Muslims do.We dont believe everyone should bow to allah the way the Muslims do.We dont throw tantrums and kill people over cartoons the way Muslims do.Until Muslim people in the Muslim countries start promoting good will and justice for all and do away with these antiquated ideas of superiority and “the Muslim way or no way” we have no room in this country for these overzealous cultists.

  • Raghubir Singh

    Why this question now? Because now western countries have started to see some sizable pockets of muslims in their countries. And most of them trust AlZazeera TV for their news and trust their Imams and local Muslim leaders for their conduct and are ready to be brain washed like millions have been. Muslims gotten education in madrasas in Middle East or South Asia , surely growup to become fundamentalists and some of them may become terrorists out of that lot. Which means religion and religious education is creating such intolerant breed.

  • Concerned The Christian Now Liberated

    Victoria, Victoria, Victoria,More “wishy-wash” from you. And what sayest thou about the seven doctors in the UK who attempted to burn down two UK airports?? What about the educated 9/11 terrorists??? Give us a break with you “goody-good” Muslim rhetoric!!!!!!!Ready to come to grips with the flaws in the foundations and founder of your religion???Ready to condemn the policies of the Islamic terror theocracy of Iran aka The Third Axis of Evil????

  • Anonymous

    Mr. Ted Baines,……… Why do you want to win the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan”? Is there any moral sanctity in it or just to kill human beings in millions to satisfy your “egoism”. Remember,the third party always reaps the harvest in wars. On the other hand, this world is no more an unipolar where jungle rule could be flourished. Historical forces are moving fast towards unforeseen directions and it is hard to predict the outcome of the conglomeration of different kind of forces at this stage, even nuclear states have stretched their wings in the sky. Let us join for peace not for war.

  • sami qureshi

    Mr. Ted Baines,

  • ICBM

    Imagine that some people actually have issues with muslims? Who are these people? They might be Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Animists, Hindus, Atheists, Sikhs, the indifferent, and even other muslims and they make up more than one-fifth of humanity. Only an idiot like the author of this incredibly foolish article would deceive themselves with his platitudes. I wonder what tear-jerking articles he will write when we go to war with Iran?

  • Ted Baines

    I do not want to go to war. But on 9/11 Muslims attacked the USA and they had to pay the price.If I had been president I would have bombed Afghanistan and Pakistan out of existence for having aided and abetted The Taliban and the Al Qaeda. I would have seriously considered bombing Riyadh and even Mecca.I would not have gone into Iraq. Or Iran.I would not have tried to nation build in Afghanistan You cannot force secularism and democracy on a people that wants neither.My first step after 9/11 would have been to stop all immigration from Saudi Arabia and Pakistan and to send all natives of these two countries back to their countries. That would have reduced the immediate threat to the US.I would have later extended the ban to Bangladesh, Indonesia, Morrocco, Egypt, Sudan, Yemen, Algeria, Iran, Iraq and Syria. I would also ban the Muslims of India, 200 million of them, from coming here.

  • Michelle Ramsey Stallans

    It is very good exposure, to the young people. The young need to know, that it starts with

  • deca

    Yes, it is said but to some extent true the way Muslims are viewed in America, but I hate to say every new ethnic group who has arrived here in the past experienced similar prejudice and ignorance. My Italian ancestors certainly did—they combatted this ignorance by integrating, participating, and educating others about their culture, etc.. I think Muslims are on the right track, but need to do more about not just educating others but integrating more. As far as prejudice…it will always be there..it is how one responds to it.

  • Farhad Ahmed

    It is impossible to expect anything else from Americans. Ignorant about the rest of the world, fed on huge hamburgers and brainwashed by O’Reillys of Fox TV as well as hostage to a Zionist Israel lobby, ensconed in the bubble of an economy that consumes 70 percent of the earth’s resources, cut off from the rest of humanity by their peculiar sports, they are a curse on mankind.

  • sami qureshi

    Ted Baines, It is fear that has transformed you to this extent. 9/11 is now history. Its anniversary would be celebrated every year. And that is all.

  • Concerned The Christian Now Liberated

    Reiterating this famous quote:”Gators vs. Muslims??? Gators definitely will kill. With Muslims, it depends but with the koran as their operating manual can we trust any of them?”

  • victoria

    the worst of all is when people come on here faking muslim names and posting garbage trying to get people to believe that a muslim says such insane drivel

  • victoria

    thats interesting thart you said that lib- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To promote a new movie on the Ten Commandments the producers commissioned a national survey to compare knowledge of the Ten Commandments with knowledge of Big Mac hamburgers. It was no contest. From 60 to 80 percent could name the contents of a Big Mac. Just 45 percent could remember “honor thy father and mother,” and only 34 percent mentioned keeping the Sabbath. there was this story too- President Bush marked Ramadan at the White House with his own iftar. Bush and First Lady Laura Bush joined Muslim leaders as they broke their fast. despite concerted efforts to move backwards-

  • victoria

    well i just watched the topical sitcom tonight.it was not exactly laugh out loud funny, but it wasnt turn the channel dull either.it was, a sitcom.in other words, a sit-com.the characters were developed enough for me to care about their fates, there was no evidence of any preachiness one way or the other- it followed everybody hates chris, another show about an ‘on the social fringe’ young teen.its not a sociological study of the habits of the teenaged pakistani- just a sweet little sitcom.actually i look forward to the day when the bizarre characterizations of muslim that americans accept blindly as really representative,but that day is far off i fear.but this is a start.

  • victoria

    its thou shalt not murder lib- not killeven i know that. whats up with the big mac obsession lately? we certainly do talk about food alot though, dont we- you and i? tonight im ordering delicious halal chinese food- if i knew where you lived id send you homemade cookies, but i know youd just call the bomb squad and ruin them. ( i dont want to know where you live lib- i dont want to disturb your feelings of security any more than they already are.)

  • Concerned The Christian Now Liberated

    Same “ole” Victoria, she never addresses the flaws of Islam to include the “fasting” sham of Ramadan. “Killing or murderFor added details see

  • Jessica

    Are we really like this? Only in the few months just after the September 11 attacks have I actually witnessed that kind of small mindedness, although I realize it must occur more often than I’m seeing. More and more lately I’ve been reading these statistics, like this “70% of Americans say they have little or nothing in common with Muslims.” I do not understand how we can perpetuate this misguided prejudice against an entire group of people, especially when we look back through history at the sometimes extreme horrors that occur as a result of such backward thinking. I would like to think that most Americans can rise above the anger, fear, and sorrow that came out of 9/11 and recognize that the people behind those attacks are fanatics (something that unfortunately naturally results from ANY religion including every sect of Christianity) and not the every day people of Arab descent who are simply trying to work hard, love their families, and survive like the rest of the world.

  • roberto

    The western world And Islam are at war. It is foolish for western nations to allow Muslim immigrants as they are sowing the seeds for future problems. Just look at the burning cars in France and the current turmoil in Switzerland. Muslims do not assimilate and they breed like rabbits.

  • 67Alfa

    The US, by blindly supporting Israel, by pouring tens of billions of dollars worth of weapons into Israel, by supporting Israel’s slaughter of virtually tens of thousands of Palestinians in the last 60 years, has become, in many ways, an enemy of Islam. But this was a confrontation started by the US (due to Zionist lobbying) and NOT by Islam. The horrible, evil, miss-guided events of 9/11 were the direct result of the US’s blind, slave-like support of Israeli aggression and human rights violations over the last half century. Virtually everyone who has lived in and studied the Middle East knows this to be true. Unfortunately, most Americans (the 70% we see mentioned) aren’t well read enough, or smart enough, to figure this out. A good start for those people (the ones who can read) would to read Jimmy Carter’s book “Peace not Apartheid”. Or do they think that Jimmy Carter is a Muslim terrorist?

  • 67Alfa

    The US, by blindly supporting Israel, by pouring tens of billions of dollars worth of weapons into Israel, by supporting Israel’s slaughter of virtually tens of thousands of Palestinians in the last 60 years, has become, in many ways, an enemy of Islam. But this was a confrontation started by the US (due to Zionist lobbying) and NOT by Islam. The horrible, evil, miss-guided events of 9/11 were the direct result of the US’s blind, slave-like support of Israeli aggression and human rights violations over the last half century. Virtually everyone who has lived in and studied the Middle East knows this to be true. Unfortunately, most Americans (the 70% we see mentioned) aren’t well read enough, or smart enough, to figure this out. A good start for those people (the ones who can read) would to read Jimmy Carter’s book “Peace not Apartheid”. Or do they think that Jimmy Carter is a Muslim terrorist?

  • 67Alfa

    The US, by blindly supporting Israel, by pouring tens of billions of dollars worth of weapons into Israel, by supporting Israel’s slaughter of virtually tens of thousands of Palestinians in the last 60 years, has become, in many ways, an enemy of Islam. But this was a confrontation started by the US (due to Zionist lobbying) and NOT by Islam. The horrible, evil, miss-guided events of 9/11 were the direct result of the US’s blind, slave-like support of Israeli aggression and human rights violations over the last half century. Virtually everyone who has lived in and studied the Middle East knows this to be true. Unfortunately, most Americans (the 70% we see mentioned) aren’t well read enough, or smart enough, to figure this out. A good start for those people (the ones who can read) would to read Jimmy Carter’s book “Peace not Apartheid”. Or do they think that Jimmy Carter is a Muslim terrorist?

  • alfa67

    The US, by blindly supporting Israel, by pouring tens of billions of dollars worth of weapons into Israel, by supporting Israel’s slaughter of virtually tens of thousands of Palestinians in the last 60 years, has become, in many ways, an enemy of Islam. But this was a confrontation started by the US (due to Zionist lobbying) and NOT by Islam. The horrible, evil, miss-guided events of 9/11 were the direct result of the US’s blind, slave-like support of Israeli aggression and human rights violations over the last half century. Virtually everyone who has lived in and studied the Middle East knows this to be true. Unfortunately, most Americans (the 70% we see mentioned) aren’t well read enough, or smart enough, to figure this out. A good start for those people (the ones who can read) would to read Jimmy Carter’s book “Peace not Apartheid”. Or do they think that Jimmy Carter is a Muslim terrorist?

  • victoria

    nice try lib- but you posted specifically the CATHOLIC version on the main page- (which specifies murder) where i answered you the first time- sneaky tactic lib yup- new jerusalem also has “murder” goodness lib- do your homework before you make fun of people not knowing things- which only ends up in me being forced to reveal your own poor knowledge of your own religion. not only this, but its an old theological argument- to kill vs. murder not even a deep or unusual one

  • Concerned The Christian Now Liberated

    Victoria, Victoria, Victoria, Victoria,What fast??? As noted previously, Muslims fast/sleep/read/watch TV from sunup to sundown then feast from sundown to sunup every day during Ramadan.With respect to the Ten Commandments:It is obvious Muslims have never heard of the Ten Commandments, especially the Fifth Commandment, Thou Shalt Not Kill and the Sixth Commandment, Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery (which they commit as soon as they they take their second, third and fourth wives).Again, a Big Mac and baseball bat upon your “peaceful/terrorist”, Islamic and koranic head!!!

  • Concerned The Christian Now Liberated

    Victoria, Victoria, Victoria, Victoria,You noted: “the worst of all is when people come on here faking muslim names and posting garbage trying to get people to believe that a muslim says such insane drivel”. But you continue to post inane and insane drivel about how peaceful Islam is. Maybe your name is Farhad Ahmed???And a Big Mac and a baseball bat on your “peaceful/terrorist” Islamic heads!!!!!

  • victoria

    i have to be honest lib- (getting lazy,eh? only VVV now?) now i was just playing semantics with you lib- although i actually have had long conversations about this in the past with priests and apologists. now my following reasoning is the truth, and isnt intended to discredit your post- its the worst source ive ever seen! when did opinion become a substitute for fact? they say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing- and wikipedia is the strongest proof of that. that burns me up- that it deliberately misleads or misrepresents- often even rewriting history because i guess anoyne anywhere can post something there- its awful! i know youve done your reasearch and studying so youre not included here- but when i see someone post wikipeda as their proof of their argument- they go way down in my estimation, even if theire point is one i agree with- or i find their reasoning strong-when i see wikipedia as their reference- i automatically question what i may have accpeted point blank without it! but your pointis well taken- o- i just looked at that post you referred to- that wasnt a muslim! farhad ahmad- its pretty artless to say the least,and forgettable which is why i forgot it. i guess no cookies for you dude

  • Concerned The Christian Now Liberated

    V, V, V, V,If you don’t like wikipedia, try the Catholic Encyclopedia for the Catholic version of the Ten Commandments.And as usual, you still cannot come to grips with the flaws in Islam. How very, very sad that by your silence you add credence to the Islamic terror theocracy of Iran!!!!

  • guillermo

    It is unique that the Koran calls Christians and jews the people fo the book, detailing that we follow the teachings of our Lord, the one and only God. Yet Christians and Jews to not view Muslims as brothers and sisters of us. Also, Alla is not a name, it’s simply the arabic word for “God”.

  • VICTORIA

    ali- we learn pretty young in america not to construct our concepts of reality from tv shows.

  • kepajlyezj

    Wow, cool man, big thanks!

  • Craig

    What you say sounds good and in a rationale world the people of this country would live up to this ideal. However, if one looks at the history of the United States, all the evidence argues against this. The people of this country have never lived up to the ideal. They have not even gotten close to that ideal! Read the history of the Native American experience, the African American experience, the Asian experience, the Eastern European experience, the Irish experience, the Italian experience.

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She’s been ignored, dismissed, and misunderstood. But the story of Easter makes it clear that Mary was Jesus’ most faithful friend.

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From Passover to Easter: Why I’m Grateful to be Jewish, Christian, and Alive

Passover with friends. Easter with family. It’s almost enough to make you believe in God.

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Top 10 Reasons We’re Glad A Catholic Colbert Is Taking Over Letterman’s “Late Show”

How might we love Stephen Colbert as the “Late Show” host? Let us count the ways.

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God’s Not Dead? Why the Good News Is Better than That

The resurrection of Jesus is not a matter of private faith — it’s a proclamation for the whole world.

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The Three Most Surprising Things Jesus Said

Think you know Jesus? Some of his sayings may surprise you.

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Jesus, Bunnies, and Colored Eggs: An Explanation of Holy Week and Easter

So, Easter is a one-day celebration of Jesus rising from the dead and turning into a bunny, right? Not exactly.